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  • February 4, 2014 at 11:41 am in reply to: Who is Filming Now? (S3) PART 4 #242774
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    I’m not sure the writers will show jealous Tink at all.  While I’m curious what her “first offense” was to get her to lose her wings, it seems to me they’ve written this Tink as very sweet and good, but just not as straight laced as BF.

    I’m not sure either. I’m just throwing it out there as a possibility since the title “It’s Not Easy being Green” did make me think of Tink’s fairy name and the phrase “green with envy.”

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 10:50 am in reply to: Who is Filming Now? (S3) PART 4 #242762
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    Emma and Tink seem to be forging a relationship (or maybe it’s really Jennifer and Rose who’re becoming friends). Maybe they’ll end up being good buddies, as well as foils for one another. Who knows? Maybe Tink is secretly a little jealous of the attention that Hook pays to Emma. After all, Tink and Hook did seem to share a history together in NL, and in the Disney version of PP, Tink was depicted as being the envious type.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 10:43 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #242760
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    3princesses wrote: I’m not really a shipper at all, but I just came up with an idea based on some of the recent spoilers that might encourage you all here. Somehow something happens to Neal where he is separated from his soul. Everyone believes he is dead, but Hook thinks he can save him based on pirate lore, which is why he is talking to Ariel. He needs a mermaid tear & Davy Jones to ferry him like POTC. The key is though when he saves him, he had to switch places with him. So Hook ends up dying to save Neal after releasing his soul.

    That sounds very plausible to me. It’s always nice to have a non-shipper’s perspective, since sometimes I start to wonder if my own wishes have biased my perspective. When I try to be objective and when I just think about the plot developments and the character arcs, I’ve always thought that Hook could become a Sydney-Carton type of last-minute hero; he’s someone who lived a pretty selfish existence but who ultimately sacrificed himself out of unrequited love. I still think it’s no coincidence that the announcement of a character death was made on the 1-year anniversary of the airing of In the Name of the Brother in which Emma called Hook “dead guy of the year.” I remember thinking what a foreboding foreshadowing of Hook’s death that was, and that was before I was even fully onboard with Swanfire. Also, the title selection for 3×17 “The Jolly Roger” could refer to both the name of Hook’s ship and also the symbol of the skull and crossbones (i.e. the symbol of death). These writers are tricky and may make it seem like Neal is all but dead, but that could be a huge misdirection so that when then other shoe drops, it’s actually Hook who sacrifices his own life to save Neal, the boy he previously wronged. Also, the more I think about it, the more I wonder if the spoiler about a death being reversed is really about Neal.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 10:24 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #242755
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    I apologize to my fellow SF fans for my attitude yesterday. Seeing Hook seemingly try to fill the shoes of Neal just got to me, because Neal is someone I’ve been rooting for for a long time now. He’s the underdog, the comeback kid, the guy with good intentions who deserves a second chance. From now on, I’m going to have tunnel vision when it comes to rumors and out-of-context speculation. I think I’m happiest with this show when I take Adam at his word that he has plans to show more of Neal’s story. I can’t believe he’d consign Neal to a worst fate than other less-deserving characters. Maybe that’s taking things on trust, but then again, this show is about taking a leap of faith. And of all the characters, we’ve seen Emma, Neal and Henry doing just that in S3. Being a SF fan means believing in even the possibility of happy ending even when it seems like all other lights have gone out. It’s not easy, but then again, the course of true love never did run smooth.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 10:14 am in reply to: Adam Answers Twitter Q’s! #242754
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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 9:54 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #242748
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    Adam must’ve tweeted this without me seeing it. Yahoo!

    Here is the original tweet:

    Bring it on! #BaetoStay #HopeforSwanFire

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 9:39 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #242746
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    I’m going to post this mini-essay here so that every time we start to let our fears get the better of us, we can refer back to it (edited for profanity):

    Look we literally didn’t have pictures on set of MRJ between the cape pics in 312 and the pics with Jen and the heater in 315. He filmed ENTIRELY IN STUDIO until 310 the first half of the season. He doesn’t tweet that often, and he tweets work related things even less.

    Vancity=paparazzi. Vancity has a ton of followers who ask about Hook, so he gives them Hook, and subsequently stirs up crap so we’re ALL following him. Remember the pics of Hook and Emma walking where everyone freaked about them ~holding hands? That scene was half the cast— Neal included— running to Blue when the shadow attacked.

    Cast members come to set at different times— they’ll take a shuttle from base camp to set, and they won’t always ride together for various reasons— someone’s still in hair and make up, the director hasn’t called for them yet, they just didn’t get in the darn car before it left, etc. Sometimes, even when filming’s already started, an actor won’t be there for the entire scene, if his or her part comes later, because it takes forever to film a scene. (With that huge www confrontation scene— iirc, lana was on set that night, but not until after they’d started filming.)

    And I think most importantly— they’re filming episode 317 and we’ve only seen through 311. We don’t even know what the general idea of the plot is. We don’t know why certain characters are filming together. We don’t know the context of the scenes we have bts for, let alone the ones we haven’t seen filmed at all. Remember when we got the New York pictures? We theorized and theorized, but we had no CLUE why they were there.

    I get that we’re getting such a slow trickle of news after a huge spoiler and everyone just wants information, but the thing is that we don’t really have any. I get how easy it is to draw conclusions because it really looks a certain way, but we don’t know much. Maybe it’ll be something we hate that makes no sense. And maybe it’s really, really not what we think. Filming is a bizarre process, and we’re really not going to know anything until we SEE it.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 1:03 am in reply to: Who Do You Think the death is? #242731
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    IDK why but Henry looks bummed in this pic.

    That looks like a BTS shot to me. In the background, you can see it looks like Colin and the guy who plays Smee are filming a scene while JMO and Jared appear to be off-camera. The original caption even says it’s BTS:

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 12:55 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #242730
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    “@vayleen: @AdamHorowitzLA I want to know why he picked the name Neal Cassidy. Was/Is he a Kerouac fan?”

    Love Kerouac

    I admit I never read “On the Road” or saw the film but I did look up some information on Wikipedia:

    Neal Leon Cassady (February 8, 1926 – February 4, 1968) was a major figure of the Beat Generation of the 1950s and the psychedelic and counterculture movements of the 1960s. He was prominently featured as himself in the original “scroll” (first draft) version, and served as the model for the character Dean Moriarty, in Jack Kerouac’s 1957 version of the novel On the Road.

    Also, here’s an interestingly cryptic tweet from Adam:

    and

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 12:48 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #242727
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    molly wrote: There’s no story line dicated reason for killing off Rumple’s son, Henry’s father, and the man whose absences continue to hurt Emma.

    Precisely, which is why I am torn over this spoiler being “demanded.” To me, there is absolutely no way that Neal’s passing could in any way be necessitated by the story alone. The only character whose death seems to have been hinted at several times and whose character arc ending in a heroic send-off would be Hook, especially if he does end up being like Sydney Carton. Otherwise, no, this spoiler is hard to swallow.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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