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ParticipantCan someone Tweet the writer for TV Guide and ask whether Chris Gorham’s character is really connected to Emma and Rapunzel, or whether that’s speculation? I don’t have Twitter otherwise I’d volunteer to do it. If it turns out the spoiler is accurate, then I’m inclined to say Chris Groham’s character is Eugene.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI love Neal. He’s a very real character. He’s made mistakes but he knows this & doesn’t try to act like he’s never done anything wrong. He takes responsibility & doesn’t think Emma owes him anything. He’s also a very forgiving person, like with his father. Ever since he found out he has a son he’s been a great dad and been by Henry’s side & doing everything he can to keep him safe. After the horrible life he’s had, he’s still very hopeful & believes he’ll see Emma & Henry again.”
Despite having made misjudgments, Neal has owned up to them, apologized for them, and has done his upmost to be there for Henry and Emma since they re-entered his life. Unlike Hook, who was consumed by revenge, hatred and self-interest after he lost Milha, Neal has never given into contempt or a need for revenge after all of the bad things that have happened to him. Sure, Neal was angry at his dad for abandoning him and frightened of being found by his father. Nevertheless, Nealfire never stopped trying to the right thing, and ever since Emma and Henry entered Neal’s life in the present-day, he’s striven to do right by both of them. I know nothing can make up for the fact that he left Emma, yet Emma realizes that he was a victim of the curse, too, just as she was. Emma sees he is trying his best by apologizing and expressing his regret. Hook has yet to even acknowledge when he’s actually being a scoundrel or to apologize to Emma for twice leaving her to die. I just hope Emma can start to see through that mask of “good form” when really, Hook’s interest in Emma is really self-interest. I give Hook credit for helping Emma get her son back, but the fact that he only saved Charming in order to get something in return from Emma in the form of a kiss is really quite disturbing. By contrast, Neal convinced his father to help Charming without expecting anything in return, simply because it’s the right thing to do.
Have you ever seen the 1995 film Rob Roy? There is a great conversation that Rob has with his sons about what it means to be a real man of honor.
Son: Father, will the MacGregor’s ever be kings again?
ROB ROY: All men with honor are kings – but not all kings have honor.
SON: What is honor?
ROB ROY: Honor is.. what no man can give ye, and no one can take away. Honor is a man’s gift to himself.
SON: Do women have it?
ROB ROY: Women are the heart of honor – and we cherish and protect it in them. You must never mistreat a woman, or malign a man. Or stand by and see another do so.
SON: How do you know if you have it?
ROB ROY: Never worry in the getting of it. It grows in ye and speaks to ye. All you need to do is listen.”I love that Neal has a real sense of honor about him. He has never been one to mistreat a woman, to malign a man or to stand by and see another do so. Baelfire detested when Rumple would cause harm to innocent people and tried to do something about by taking his father to A Land Without Magic. When the dark shadow was hounding the Darling children, Baelfire took it upon himself to do something about it by sacrificing himself. While some would argue that Neal mistreated Emma, he never intentionally harmed her; in fact, Adam and Eddy have said on record that Neal letting Emma go to free her family was an act of self-sacrifice. Finally, Neal was willing to sacrifice himself for his son and Emma so that Henry wouldn’t have to grow up alone. That is just what a man of honor does, and it’s not something that anyone can give him except himself.
By contrast, Hook might tell himself he is a man of honor, and yet we’ve seen him mistreat women (Emma, Belle, Snow, Aurora, Mulan and Regina included), as well malign a man (he challenged a cripple to a duel). Hook has boasted of having had many a man’s wife. He does not cherish women as the heart of honor, since he has a reputation for being a ladies’ man and he seduced another man’s wife (and anyone who justifies adultery has a skewed sense of honor anyway). Sure, Hook claims that he wants Emma to see him as a man of honor, and yet he manipulated events so that Emma would show him what her father’s life means to her in the form of a kiss. Sure, Hook told Emma’s parents that Neal was still alive. Yes, he risked his life by returning to Neverland in the first place. And yes, Hook has done these things for Emma, but he has yet to do them for himself or his own sense of honor. He has yet to make any real self-sacrifices.
Hook still makes passes at other women (Tinkerbell) and allows Emma to assume the appearance of a dalliance with Tink even when there was none. That means that Hook does not really value Tinkerbelle’s dignity, because he was tarnishing her reputation in front of Emma and Charming. Hook puts on the pretense of putting Henry’s and Neal’s interests first by claiming to step back from Emma; yet, it’s really a farce, because he expects Neal to fail miserably, thereby crushing Henry’s dreams of his parents’ reunion. That is not honorable; it’s selfish of Hook to desire his so-called son figure to fail, especially when Hook helped destroy Neal’s family as a child. By making a play for the woman his son-figure loves, it’s incredibly selfish of Hook once again to try to come between Neal and his family just like when Neal was a boy and he seduced the boy’s mother. It’s also completely hypocritical of Hook to fault Neal for leaving Emma, without knowing the real reason Neal left was to get Emma home to her parents; all the while Hook is guilty of the same thing, only worse, since Hook did so for completely selfish reasons and left Emma for dead in the magic jail cell and unable to return home to her son. Hook swindled Emma in the face of danger when the fail-safe could have killed her and everyone else besides Henry. Hook clearly only thinks of Emma insofar as he now hopes to gain something from impressing her. Hook has yet to make any self-sacrifices where he expects nothing in return. That is why his redemption arc is far from complete, and why Hook still lacks real honor in my estimation.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantMRJ and J-Mo back together again! LOVE IT! What if they’re filming the SF reunion?!
https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/421038219732324352/photo/1
https://twitter.com/jenmorrisonlive/status/421038201638121472/photo/1
Looks like Emilie de Ravin is back in Vancouver, too!
#OUAT's Emilie "Belle" de Ravin arrives at VanCity Int'l Airport.. #YVRShoots #OnceUponATime pic.twitter.com/UYa5uEDSl7
— Fedyck Fotos (@Fedyck_Fotos) January 8, 2014
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participanthttps://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/statuses/421036352378273792
RG posted this tweet from MRJ in another thread, but I’m re-posting it here for obvious SF reasons! Jennifer Morrison and MRJ are most likely filming scenes together again for 3×15! You know what that means? The glorious SF reunion!
https://twitter.com/jenmorrisonlive/status/421038201638121472/photo/1
https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/421038219732324352/photo/1
I love that some of the first official filming spoilers we get after the holiday break are of SF! 🙂
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantAnyway… just wanted to say how much I adore the whole Swanfire Family! Writing some of my thoughts down was a lot of fun! I might be popping in here and there adding to the Swanfire love. Thank you guys for posting such beautiful things- can’t wait until March!
Welcome, melbell! It’s always great to interact with fans who love and cherish SF! Thanks also for adding your insights about how the regular viewer might think of CSF. I agree pretty much with everything you wrote about wanting a non-Emma centric interaction between Hook and Neal. The writers really dropped the ball on that one in my estimation.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantMore pretty little things. Emma and Neal – Swallowed in the Sea
Neal and Emma – Take Me Back to Yesterday
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI don’t know if this is true but I thought I would pass it on anyway.
Someone on twitter asked Jennifer Morrison if Emma is still a bail bonds person in the new reality, and she said yes.
It’s true. The post is widely available on Jennifer Morrison’s twitter account.
. @Anafan2 yes #OnceUponATime #PanNeverFails #UglyDucklings
— Jennifer Morrison (@jenmorrisonlive) December 16, 2013
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantAnd also, the fact that despite the fact that she has no connection to the city, somehow Emma ended up in NYC playing Charlie’s Girl.
The title for 3×11 is “Going Home” because the reversal of the curse meant everybody got sent home. And where did Emma end up? In NYC, the same place Neal recently called home. Why not Boston where Emma was living prior to SB? Because home is wherever Neal’s home is. That fact that Emma ended up in Manhattan even when cursed, plus the fact that she was listening to the same song Neal was in “Broken” really makes me SF is meant to be. That’s my theory, and I’m sticking with it.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantAnother SF video. Neal and Emma – Say Something
Seriously, right when her parents had started to get through to her that the good moments can happen, this happens instead, to prove her doomsday mindset. But he told her this wasn’t the end, and we know that he’ll be proven right and they will see each other again. Reminds me a bit of the Snowing conversation where he said they always find each other and she said that they’re always losing each other too, so maybe that’s their fate. There may be a lot of parental stuff that Snowing really did miss out on offering to Emma, but there are still things they know about better than she does, and the power of love to endure anything, despite the bumps in the road, is one of those things they’re experts in.
Yes! “I’ll see you again” is just another way of saying “I’ll always find you.” Neal now believes that more than ever, having survived a near-fatal gunshot wound, falling through a portal and still finding a way back to Emma and Henry in Neverland. Emma, however, still isn’t ready to put any stock into the belief that she owes it to herself to have hope for a happy ending because bad stuff keeps happening to her! Emma told her mother in S2 that she thinks that the optimism that runs in her family must’ve skipped a generation. Poor Emma! Being the savior has meant she didn’t get the home with Neal and Henry that she’d always wanted, and now another curse is ripping her from the man she loves and the parents she just found. It’s all so tragic! Yet, I still have hope, as surely as Neal does, that second chances are possible and believe, along with Snow and Charming, that Emma owes it to herself to discover if she could have good moments with the guy she loves.
ETA: Here is a lovely fan-made SF image. Just beautiful!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI love how she looks at him when he’s reconciling with Rumple, and how she looks when he’s just lost him.
I love that moment when Emma genuinely smiles at Neal and Rumple reconciling, because she knows what it is to be a lost child and to then find your parents after a lifetime of feeling alone. She is inspired when she sees Neal hugging his dad to then turn and hug her own parents. Emma and Neal intuitively understand each other, because they have walked in each other shoes. Neal is the lost boy to Emma’s lost girl, and both of them found each other and their families, only to be separated again. It’s so heartbreaking that Neal lost his father, his son and his great love all in one day, and Emma lost her memories of her family and Neal sacrificing himself for her. At least Emma has Henry, but she has lost a big part of herself, too. She is once again that little orphan girl who used to cry and wonder why her parents gave her up. If it hadn’t been for Neal letting her go to break the first curse, Emma never would’ve known her parents at all. Now, it’s a matter of Emma regaining her memories (hopefully after seeing Neal’s dreamcatcher and drinking the potion) and also of Emma searching for her parents and for Neal. I have a feeling we’re going to be seeing Emma rescuing Neal from some sort of precarious situation
Here is another lovely SF video. Neal and Emma – How it Feels to Let You Go
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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