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ParticipantIt’s a major theme of the show: parents and children. The overarching story, since season one, was a father looking for his son and a fairy tale prince and princess waiting for their daughter to save them. Parents and children are huge on this show. Henry is not why I ship SF but it is a major factor for Emma.
Not only is Henry a major factor for Emma, he is THE criterion for Emma! She flat out told Hook and Neal in 3×7 that if she had to choose, she’d always choose Henry. Neal totally agreed that if Henry is the best thing to come from them being together, then he’d say they did pretty well. By contrast, Hook sulked! Emma Swan would only ever choose a man who put Henry’s welfare first, as surely as Neal has ever since he discovered Henry is his son.
“Hook is obviously eye-candy,” Kitsis allows. “I don’t know if Emma would stare at him and think he’d be a great father to Henry, but he might be fun in Vegas!”
Now why would Eddy raise the issue of fatherhood? Why hasn’t Hook told Emma yet about considering himself a father figure to Nealfire? Could it be because Hook was/is a horrible quasi step-dad to Baelfire? Not only did he seduce Bae’s mother away from her young son, but now he’s making a play for that same boy’s baby mama. I think it’s clear where this is headed. Once Emma learns the truth, she’s not going to look at Hook and think what a great dad he’d make. On the contrary, she’d be wise to run the other direction!
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Slurpeez
ParticipantOMG. All of that! That match my list exactly. I think I would also add how comfortable they are around each other. Even post-cave confession, they sit next to each other. prepare to go off to Dark Hollow together. They’re team, always.
Yep, not to mention how Emma says, “now let’s go get our son back!” I love that Emma, Neal and Regina put the interests of their son first, ahead of themselves, as any loving parents automatically would do. That is real love in action!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Slurpeez
ParticipantWhat if Quiet Minds, #15, is not a Belle-centric, but a Rumple-centric?
As much as I love Rumple, I think Belle deserves a backstory in S3; Rumple has already had 2 character-centric episodes (3×4 and 3×8)! While I’d love Rumple to be in the FB or present-day in 3×15, I want to see Belle at the helm this time. It’s been a long time since “The Outsider” and then the disaster of Lacey that ensued. Belle deserves her own story outside of 3×7, which she played a significant role in but didn’t feature in any backstories.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantSchmacky nails it again!
top ten reasons for why you love swanfire 🙂
Ooh! Hmm. In no particular order:
- It’s a tragic love story (I love me some angst!)
- It’s poetically beautiful (boy Dark Curse was made for meets girl destined to break Dark Curse)
- That they’re actually kindred spirits (lost boy and lost girl)
- They make a good team (both in the past and the present)
- The simplest of things have always mattered most to them (family and home)
- Their constant separations (strange, I know. But it really does make good drama. What good is a love story if it doesn’t overcome hurdles and challenges at every turn? Plus, each separation just means another reunion 🙂
- How real they feel to me as a viewer. Their shortcomings. Their fear overtaking them at times (Neal’s fear of rejection, Emma’s fear of being hurt again)
- The way they smile at each other (Their huge, big, unguarded smiles in the past, and their guarded smiles in the present)
- How quickly they fell in step with one another after their first reunion. The trust they have in each other. How they got each other’s back.
- The mementos they’ve kept that reminded them of the other even a decade later.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Slurpeez
ParticipantPosting because of SF feelings. From Tumblr
It’s the little things.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Slurpeez
ParticipantTwice she had a dreamcatcher to symbolize her home and to “keep the nightmares away” and twice it was taken by fate and her destiny. Poor Emma. But it’s ok cause we know that her desire for home never left her.
Emma’s life is very complicated, because it was fate that tore her from her family and Neal, yet it was also Emma’s destiny which enabled her to meet Neal, conceive Henry and eventually free her parents. If it hadn’t been for the curse, Emma and Neal’s paths never would have crossed and Emma never would have had Henry. Maybe Emma would have grown up happily with her parents as a princess of the Enchanted Forest, but then she’d be a completely different person. Life is full of surprises, and I wonder if by the end of the series, Emma would be willing to trade away her current happy life with Henry and, hopefully with Neal, in favor of the original dark curse having been enacted. That way, she’d never have experienced the same pain of feeling abandoned by her parents, but then she’d be denying her happy ending with her son and the man she loves. Tough question, huh?
My bet is that Emma would want to keep her life with Henry, and possibly Neal, rather than be without them. It’s similar to Rumple’s offer to turn his son back into a 14-year-old, and Neal balked at the idea of forgetting his life up until the present day. As he said, “14? I don’t want to be 14 again! Are you insane? …Take away who I am? No thanks” which is somewhat ironic, considering he spent a century being frozen at that age in Neverland, and those memories weren’t particularly happy. I think once/if Emma and Neal realize that their happy ending is with each other, then the prospect of the joy of simply being together as a family with their son will by far and away outweigh the pain they went through to arrive at the point when they can actually have a home together, just as they always dreamed of in their youth.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Slurpeez
ParticipantSaw this on Tumblr this morning. Anyone else think it looks like a little mini dream catcher on Emma’s crib?
You’re right! It probably is a dreamcatcher! These writers really do plan ahead! Now I really hope it’s Neal’s dreamcatcher which stirs Emma’s beliefs and returns her true memories.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Slurpeez
ParticipantLove that pic! The future Prince Baelfire. 🙂
Here’s a pretty little something. Emma and Neal – High Hopes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHvl3UMxUU"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantHook’s actions at the end of 311 can quite easily be classified as assault. He didn’t consider it that way, (and I get why he kissed her and it was in character for him), but from Emma’s point of view, her reaction was totally justified, especially considering that he could have posed a threat to Henry for all she knew.
If a strange man with a hook knocked on my door and forcibly tried to kiss me, I’d also kick him where the sun don’t shine! I know Snow and Belle didn’t remember their respective guys either, but as Phee pointed out, Snowing and Rumbelle were established as really loving their men before they got amnesia. Yet, CS fans are already claiming that SF is basically dead in the water and sending out wedding announcements for Emma and Hook’s upcoming nuptials. Um, excuse me? At no point has Emma let on she loves Hook! If anything, she’s repeatedly said she loves Neal! *sigh* The last I checked, Emma Swan was still single, yet about to go have a lunch date with the man she truly loves until Peter Pan’s confounded curse got in the way again. It will be so epic when, as I predict, Hook’s attempts to try TLK on Emma continuously fail, and what stirs Emma’s beliefs is the SwanFire dream catcher combined with the BF’s magic elixir.
Ever since that steamy kiss which Hook coerced from Emma as “payment” for saving Charming, there have been no clear signals that Emma wants to kiss Hook again, let alone that she’s ready for a committed relationship with him. If anything, she told Hook that it was just a kiss. When he insisted she must choose and that he would win her heart, Emma rebuffed Hook in favor of saving her son! Ever since then she’s hardly said two words to him. When she tried to ask for his inside knowledge of dream shade in 3×8, Hook refused to tell her anything, because he was still sulking over being rejected. To to it all off, Hook made a failed drunken pass at Tinkerbell and tried to pass it off as an actual hook-up to arouse Emma’s jealousy. Yet, Emma looked at him like he was a juvenile boy. I could almost hear her audibly saying, “really?” as she was about to go have lunch with Neal.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI think over the last year of separation, Hook has allowed himself to think he’s really in love with Emma Swan, and maybe his feelings are indeed genuine. Yet, what remains to be seen is whether his love is unrequited or not. If Hook’s feelings are unrequited, are they strong enough to let Emma be with the man she truly loves, who, according to Edward Kitsis, is Neal? Remember Cyrus’ words that the “measure of true love is sacrifice.” Real love does not make demands and cannot be forced. Does Hook have what it takes to be willing to sacrifice his own happiness for the sake of Emma and Neal’s potential happy ending? We know that Emma and Neal left their relationship with a big question mark around it, yet Emma was on her way to have lunch with Neal, which means she had resolved to hear Neal out and to do the hard thing of having a real conversation about their past, about co-parenting their son together, and about their future. Neal and Emma’s story is not over; they haven’t even begun to scratch the surface of their present-day relationship.
Deep down, Hook knows Emma and Neal love each other, and according to Colin O’Donoghue, Hook loves Neal as a son figure. So, the question remains whether Hook can truly do the self-sacrifical thing for Neal and Emma, as Adam and Eddy have confirmed Neal did for Emma when he let her go to get her home. As someone who has been on both ends of the spectrum of unrequited love and requited love, I know that it doesn’t necessarily have to be mutual for love to be true. A person can have earnest feelings for another person, and wish that person happiness, even if he or she doesn’t ultimately choose you in the end. I hope Hook can learn to have that kind of selfless love, without any expectation of self-gain, so that if/when Emma lets it be known she chooses Neal, Hook could look his so-called step-son in the eye and wish him and Emma all the happiness in the world. Now that would be a heroic thing to do, and it would mirror Regina giving Emma happy memories of believing she’d never given up Henry. Regina was finally willing to atone for her sins to Snow’s family by giving up her claim on Henry by putting his and Emma’s needs first. Likewise, Rumple was finally willing to sacrifice himself so that Baelfire could have a happy ending, even though Rumple believes it wouldn’t be with him. We’ve yet to see Hook make that kind of sacrifice, and until he atones to Baelfire for seducing away his mother by helping Neal now be reunited with his family, Henry and Emma, I’ll consider Hook’s redemption arc incomplete.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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