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So let’s say that by the latter half of S2, they’d decided that that was gonna be the new triangle, which is why they wrote August being turned into a kid again, (I’ll be forever annoyed by that nonsense), but they still kept writing Hook as doing crappy stuff, even right up to the recent eps, like the thing with hitting on Tink. Meanwhile, they’ve still been writing Neal as being in love with Emma, and vice versa, but it being hard for them to get it together. So while they might have re-imagined the specifics of the triangle, and as a result have been throwing in some CS moments here and there, it seems to me that their original endgame vision is still intact. Quote
101 % agree with this notion! I was re-reading a post I wrote over a year ago at the debut of “Tallahassee” concerning August, Neal and Emma. Even I’m amazed that I recognized SF as being True Love straight off the the bat. I’d actually started out wishing Captain Swan to happen! It’s been over a year, and I’m amazed that even then, I recognized the writers as wanting to denigrate August’s character in order to preserve the integrity of Neal as Emma’s true love! Looking back, I think that I only wanted Hook with Emma in the short-term, because of the “challenge” that they represent to one another, but even then, I realized how truly Emma loved Neal. What solidified it for me was seeing “Manhattan” and then “Second Star to the Right.” To me, it just seems obvious that while Emma and Hook may have a fling, Emma and Neal are each others’ true loves! They’re two lost children who found each other in an otherwise cruel world, dreamed of a home together but were torn asunder by outside forces. Neverthless, their love remains. The rest of their story is about how two people who love each other, but were separated, can nevertheless learn to work that out. Emma and Neal’s reconciliation is a story of hope, because it flies in the face of today’s western world in which a lot of couples never learn to work out their issues, forgive, or reconcile.
Emma and Neal giving up because of the curse or Emma’s destiny as the savior would seem empty, unhappy, and desolate in my opinion. The point of their story is that real-life couples can overcome adversity to learn to forgive and reunite, that love does overcome hurt, and that second chances are possible in an age when people are in desperate need of another go at life. That is why Emma and Neal’s story represents hope, because Emma and Neal are most like us; they’ve both grown up in our world where most people don’t get another chance, don’t get to reunite with their first loves, and don’t get to atone for their mistakes. Yet, if Emma and Neal can make it work, then it gives everyday normal people hope that they can make their relationships work, even when there is a history of pain, misunderstanding and disappointment. Real life isn’t always a fairytale like Snow and Charming, who never seem to lose faith in one another except when they’re cursed. So often, real-life couples mess up, make mistakes, say things they don’t mean, and hurt each other when they don’t want to. Emma and Neal’s relationship, though influenced by supernatural events, is still seemingly normal compared to heroic tales, and so I can’t help but root for their everyday fairytale to come true!
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Here is Eion Bailey talking abour filming in Vancouver!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Mickstemp I love your theory, I keep thinking that they cross paths as well where they just missed each other. I also think Dylan landed in our world at 8:15.
Agreed! Mickstemp, your theory has officially become my own head-canon. Also, YES to Ranisha’s idea about what time Bae ended up back in A Land Without Magic!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Gladly. LOST centers around the crash of Oceanic Flight 815. It’s the plane that brings everyone together on the mysterious island
Interesting! So 8:15 really is a sign of destiny! And we all know Emma Swan and Neal Cassidy were destined to be together.
Here are all the appearances of the # 23 in the show LOST. Of greatest significance (to me) is that the main character, Jack Shepherd–the Savior–, is # 23 on Jacob’s Wall of people (don’t ask. Go with it).
I take it he’s the hero of the story, as is Emma. Interesting!
Also, I saw this GIF set with Hook’s head pasted on the body of Prince Edward from Disney’s “Enchanted.”
Exclusive footage of Hook looking for Emma in NYC
It’s pretty great. Hook just doesn’t belong in Emma’s world of NYC. Neal is a native of that city. Also, we all know who Giselle ends up with in Enchanted. It’s not Prince Edward. It’s the New Yorker guy, Robert.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Here is something interesting from Tumblr
– Fate, destiny whatever you wanna call it –
8:15 – 8+15 = 23 (LOST numbers)Would someone who watched “LOST” please tell me the significance of the numbers 8:15 and 23?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I look forward to the new perspective on things that Emma will have after regaining her memories. In Emma’s previous reality (real reality?) she gave up Henry and put her feelings in a box, choosing not to deal with them. Her reaction to Neal in Manhattan was raw pain. However, raising Henry will have forced her to deal with Neal and the way he left and to have processed some of her emotions. Not all. Neal left and it still hurts Emma, but everytime Henry makes a friend they both have to address where his dad is. Every parent/teacher conference Emma has to confront Neal’s absence. Anything that happened during the Lost Year are real memories. I think that when Neal and Emma meet again, she will be coming from a different emotional place. Still angry, but not raw.
Yes, this version of Emma will be less “walls up” and much happier overall, because she has Henry, her true love, in her life. Although she’ll still wonder how Neal could have left her to go to prison, she’ll also have the knowledge that something good (aka Henry) came from them being together. As much resentment as cursed Emma probably has, she also probably has a sense of acceptance and even gratitude that her relationship with Neal gave her Henry. She won’t have felt alone or as cheated by fate now that she believes that she at least got a chance to be happy with her kid. As she said at the end of 3×11, “My family is right here” meaning Henry.
I loved Emma’s apartment. Emma and Henry had quite a lot of plants and flowers. Subconsciously trying to connect with the Enchanted Forest?
Maybe. Potted plants represent rootedness. Her implanted memories are probably of being planted in one spot with Henry instead of being a loner who moved around a lot. Having a kid probably means she has a community where Henry’s school is. Emma may be friends with the moms of Henry’s friends. She might be a member of his elementary school’s PTA. Cursed Emma might even have a steady boyfriend. Everything in her life has changed, because Regina wanted her to have a good life with happy memories. It’s just going to be painful emotionally when she wakes up and realizes she never kept her son. 🙁
After meeting Henry, did Neal have time to draw his picture? Is that something that Emma could have found in his apartment that has her saying, “This isn’t possible”? The dreamcatcher suggests to Emma that Neal missed her, maybe loved her, and a drawing of Henry suggests that Hook is telling the truth and Neal knew about 11 year old Henry.
That’s a great point! Neal is an artist just like his mom, Milha! I’d love to see Neal have drawn a portrait of his son. However, I’m not sure he had the time between meeting Henry for the first time and his father nearly dying, and returning to SB. But perhaps Neal has drawn a portrait of Henry from memory since being back in the Enchanted Forest. If so, Neal might have given the portrait of Henry to Hook with the instructions to show it to Emma so that she’ll listen to whatever Hook has to say.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
People found Neal wanting another chance with Emma offputting due to the recent nature of his engagement? Do these same people have no problem with Hook taunting Emma into kissing him and and imagining he’s in love with Emma 4 – 5 days after leaving her for dead?
Exactly! CS fans are quick to criticize Neal for pursuing Emma after Tamara tried to kill him, but they are blind to the fact that Hook tried to pursue Emma the day after she thinks Neal died and having nearly gotten Emma and her family all killed by partnering with Tamara and Greg. Jeez Louise!
Did Hook know that everyone in Storybrook would die since the fail safe had been activated? Yes. He left to save his own life. Did he know that Emma would also die? Yes. Did he leave anyway? Yes. In college I had to take an Introduction to Philosophy class and the professor once said that love is not a feeling, it’s an action. His example was that if a man is hitting you with a 2×4, it’s not love, no matter what he says. Hook left Emma for dead at the end of last season and returned after she (and Regina) had already saved the town.
That is a really good point and why I feel uncomfortable when people point at Hook and say, “Look, he really loves Emma.” But does he really? He twice left Emma for dead! First in “The Queen of Hearts” Hook intended to leave Emma and her fellow princesses for dead in a magically-fortified jail cell. A human can only survive without water for 3 days! At least when Neal let Emma go to prison, she had provisions, a minimum sentence, and a chance of parole after 11 months. When Hook left her behind bars, Emma would surely have perished if it hadn’t been for Rumple’s foresight. CS fans try to skirt this hard fact by saying Hook was just getting back at Emma for leaving him atop the beanstalk, even though Emma made sure Anton would release him after 12 hours! They also blame all of Emma’s trust issues on Neal, even though Emma always had felt abandoned by her parents. They also say that Emma wouldn’t really have died because it was a winter finale, but Hook didn’t know that. His intention was to let Emma rot in the cell, despite her pleas to return to her son. As you observed, the second time Hook was going to leave Emma and the entire town of SB to perish from the fail-safe being triggered. If it hadn’t been for Emma being magical and helping Regina stop the black diamond, she’d be dead!
From Tumblr
What ‘True Love’ apparently looks like.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Of course my mental fanficition has taken off with Neal feels himself getting to emotional, excuse himself saying the fire is getting low and he will get some firewood. Where he starts to cry (because he lost, his father, Emma, Henry, Darlings, all in one day and he just learn his grandfather wanted to kill him) but Charming follows him and tell him its okay, empathize with him and encourages him, assures him that no matter what He is family and will always be family. They hugs not as bros but as “father” and “son.” Then he says come on we will bring that firewood back together. And of course Snow is comforting Belle because of course she is now family to.
That is beautiful, heartwarming, and very in keeping with Snow’s maternal side and Charming’s paternal side. They may not have their daughter, but they have their son figure. This needs to happen!
I think Hook’s character may be starting to come to an end. The only three story plot points Hook had going for him were Revenge on Rumple, Neverland and CaptainSwan. Neverland and Revenge on Rumple are done now, and I doubt the CaptainSwanFire triangle will carry on beyond season 3. so When the triangle is resolved and Emma ends up with Neal, it’ll be bye-bye Hook.
I can’t help but wonder the same thing. Yet, I’d still prefer if Hook discovered happiness within himself and doing the right thing just because it’s the right the to do. And I believe Hook doing the right thing for his own sense of true honor includes helping reunite Neal with his family, Emma and Henry.
just saw this on Twitter. Obviously had to post!
LOVE it! We sure have some talented SF fans who make lovely fan art.
Just saw this image on Tumblr.
Emma + losing Neal
Poor Emma! She thinks the price of being the savior means not getting to be with Neal. 🙁
Also from Tumblr
“He’s gone”
Parallels: 2×21|3×11"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
As for that confession, its funny how to get to CS, Neal had to “die” fall into a portal, Henry had to be kidnapped, Charming nearly dieing, and now we have curse and amnesic Emma. I have to say for Neal and Emma all they need was each other and car to love each other. Because each other was all they needed.
The only chance that Hook has with Emma is when Neal is not around. That is why if Emma does date Hook, I’m glad it is when she 1) is not in her right mind and 2) is when Neal is not around. I can almost guarantee that as soon as Emma remembers who she is (probably from a potion not a CS kiss), then it will be so-long Hook and hello Neal!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
It’s about time is all I have to say! Adam and Eddy have been teasing it ever since Lighting Round 9 back in early October.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
