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Yes he is a pirate but I really hate that excuse. If he wanted to show that he believes in good form, man was this the wrong way to go–from drining, to asking for a quick bathroom romp, to lying to the woman he claims to love’s face. To me it goes deeper than just “he’s a pirate” (RG is still upset with Hook)

For sure, I’m upset with him too! You won’t see me giving Hook a free pass just because of his good looks. Yet, what I believe Phee was saying is that by showing his BAD FORM it’s really a win for Swanfire, since if Hook really were a man of honor, then he might actually have a lasting chance with Emma. By showing his true colors he’s revealing himself to the audience to be a man of dubious character (well at least to those of us who haven’t been blinded by his “devilishly handsome” good looks), which Hook is quick to point out to everyone in earshot. “Hey, look at me, I’m hott!” To me that sounds like Hook needs constant affirmation, praise and attention, and instead of telling his “good friend” Neal he’s laying off Emma due to some bro code, it’s really about getting Emma to notice his good looks, while hoping to arouse her jealousy by allowing her to believe he’s unfettered by her and Neal by hooking up with Tinkerbell. RIIIIIIGHT. That’s the way to a woman’s’ heart. *That was me being heavy on the sarcasm, in case you couldn’t tell. *

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We were soooooo close to a Rumbelle engagement tonight that I could almost taste it. Here‘s Rumple falling into line behind Belle.

Now all Belle needs to do is tell Rumple to get her a wedding ring and he would!

Here is another pretty thing!

 

Foreshadowing! Rumnelle engagement by end of S3!

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I’m thinking Pan’s plan is for Felix to enact the curse.  They just need to catch Henry-in-Pan’s-body for Felix to rip out that heart.

I think that PP wants to rip out FELIX’s heart, not because he is in love with Felix, but because Felix’s loyalty means more than anything to Peter Pan. Felix is a true believer and faithful follower if ever there were one. Maybe Felix will even sacrifice himself willingly so that PP can enact the curse.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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The fake backing off, the getting drunk and hitting on Tink, the “perhaps” to try and made Emma jealous, that’s all the epitome of BAD FORM. I think (hope) that eventually he’s gonna realise that bad form doesn’t really pay off, and then hopefully we can get some genuine change towards redemption stuff happening for him. I think right now, they’re painting him with a bad brush to help shut down the triangle. Of course, CSers will still interpret this ep in a ship-able way, and I guess my own bias is colouring my interpretation too, but it just seems to me like they’re actively trying to show Hook as not even being a real contender, because he’s still kind of a douchebag.

Up until 3×5 I gave Hook the benefit of the doubt and thought he was genuinely trying to change his ways. And then came the “is that all your father’s life is worth to you? bit to get a kiss from Emma. That was nicely contrasted with Neal telling his dad to help Charming free-of-charge because it’s the right the to do, without any favors or deals. I think the entire whitewashing of Hook was done to show his true colors later on, as we surely saw tonight when Hook resorted to soliciting Tinkerbell for drunken sex. I’m sure that Tink and Hook have had some “fun” in the past being marooned on a deserted islands for over a century together. Yet, the way Hook was using Tink just to get to Emma really made my skin crawl, since it was shameful and disrespectful to both Emma and Tink! Yet, Hook IS a pirate, as Phee is quick to remind us. Should we really expect otherwise? This is what makes me think that if/when Emma and Hook decide to date, it will be when Emma is cursed, because then Emma wouldn’t remember the disrespectful way that Hook treats people, including her! He’s left her for dead and shot innocent people. Yeah, he helped Charming, but just to get a kiss out of it. So, I’m thinking that it’s Cursed Emma we see in plaid pants parading around with Hook in NYC. If not, then maybe Emma is just using Hook a reason not to face her feelings for Neal, because we heard her say again she’s afraid to hold onto the good moments.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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My prediction is based on spoilers, so only read if you like spoilers. We know a new cursed is unleashed because Grumpy comes running down the street of SB yelling “the curse is here!” Also, we know that Regina probably goes back to EF somehow. There are images of Regina, Neal, Snow, Charming, Belle, the dwarves, Granny, Aurora, and Philip in EF, along with Hook, who comes riding up on a horse. Yet, we also saw Emma, Henry and Hook in NYC. How could Hook be in two places at once? Well, he couldn’t possibly, which suggest a portal between worlds being created (unless 3×12 really is just and AU episode). Yet, if the curse does create a new portal between EF and SB, then Hook possibly could be a go-between the two worlds. Also, we could see people losing part of their memories of SB. We might see Emma have an alter-ego as well, since the pics of her in NYC are her wearing ghastly-looking plaid pants, suggesting Emma is not in her right mind. Rumple said even Emma would not be immune this time around from the new curse, so perhaps she gets a fake persona, too. I’m not entirely sure what to make of all this, but it’s interesting nonetheless.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Rumple will survive but the question is in what condition? I think his dark one curse will be reversed, transforming him back into a regular man. He may even come close to death, but he won’t die, because the day he does is the day the show as a whole dies. Robert Carlyle is the life-force behind this show, and Rumple is a key character written for this phonomal actor.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I too have many scattered thoughts now.

First–did I miss something or was there no explanation for Wendy having the robe? SOmetimes my DVR eats the first few minutes but it felt like suddenly Hook and Neal were sort-of getting along. Was it just the “I’ll back off” speech in the diner?

Now I could see someone trying to argue that Hook being in pain, trying to hook up with Tink, making Emma think he was with Tink was his way of trying to back off–but that is a huge stretch for me. A more fair way of “backing off” and no mind games and being in it for the “long haul” would be to go to Emma, tell her she needs to deal with Neal, and he’ll be waiting. If Hook truly had love for Emma, that is what he would do–talk WITH her, not at her. Hook’s been talking at Emma a lot, telling her what he feels, what he wants to know, but he really hasn’t picked up on her hesitancy and fears. I think Neal might if Emma would give him a bit more time, but she is scared to let her guard down, and in some ways, Neal breaks through her defenses.

So it is hard for Emma to be around him and just be “Emma” when she thinks she has to be “Savior.” I loved how you put that Ranisha. The show paralleled Snow and David remembering a time when she was scared to relax and enjoy happiness, and outright, Snow and David made the comparison to Emma with Neal.

David didn’t even really say much about Hook. It’s not pushing away Hook because they misunderstand him, or think he’s awful in a “Papa don’t Preach” –or Mo French sort of way. He didn’t even dignify Emma’s question about keeping her away from Hook with more than a joke. If Emma wants to waste her time on Hook, David knows she’s a grown woman and will have to figure it out herself.

It may take a frustrating amount of time, but then, that’s TV drama. We see so many things Emma does not see, and obviously some of it is frustrating as there are things she sees/hears apparently that we don’t!

Hook didn’t seem in “whitewash” Hero Mode anymore today though. Pointing out that Neal walked out on Emma once (and really what does he know about it?) was not really a “friendly” thing to say. I’ve seen a lot of shows where two friends want the same girl, and it’s more of a “I love her, so don’t break her heart,” not, “Well she probably won’t want you since you messed it up once, and when she figures that out, well what woman wouldn’t want me?” It’s a shade in the “Did you honestly think she’d want someone like you, when she could have someone like me?” speech Gaston makes to the beast.

Then there was the moment with Tink. Asking for a little “dalliance” is one thing, both adults and Hook isn’t with Emma (but so much for the chaste pirate pining for his love). What really bothered me is the scene outside the Inn when Emma arrived. Let’s put aside the childishness of trying to make someone jealous but consider it was rude to Tink especially after what she’d said, first that she knew he was hung up on Emma, and second it was a matter of dignity to her. It shows one thing I was wondering about–how does Hook treat people other than Emma? Has he really changed? It would seem, not so much. He puts on an act for Emma.Finally, Neal was NOT pushy. There’s a certain amount of wooing and pursuit Neal has to do because the truth is, Emma will respond to being wanted and pursued. Hook does it, so if Neal is way too passive it makes him look like he doesn’t care, especially in comparison. Now I feel Hook came on WAY too strong, and if his “backing off” meant anything, it was probably more a realization that he better do that or Emma would push Hook further away. I don’t know if Hook genuinely said to Neal what he did because of Neal. All the same, Neal really didn’t push too hard.He started off asking to talk, and the “lunch” was really no pressure. It wasn’t choose me or I’m done, but it was I’ll understand and stop putting pressure on you romantically if you do not come. Of course, maybe Neal set it up that way, in part because of doubt planted by Hook that Emma doesn’t want to let him back in. Neal wouldn’t want to push Emma if that truly is how she feels–he already told her if all they have from their former relationship is Henry, then they did alright. I have a feeling Emma is going to get stuck somehow with Hook, and things will progress a little more, until she realizes “What am I doing?” Then she will have to go after Neal. Neal will just assume she’s chosen to be with Hook, and he’ll accept it because he loves her and wants her to be happy. He won’t make a big fuss, even though it is an extra twist of the knife of fate right in his gut.Small steps I suppose, but tonight, we saw again the theme that Emma is scared to open herself to happiness and that’s really why she resists Neal, because she is scared something else will happen and she’d lose that happiness again (not because he would leave her or do something, but because fate).

Yes to everything you just wrote!

Also, take a look at what Colin O’Donoghue live-tweeted during the show!

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Don’t worry. I know that it won’t be an easy road for them. But it wouldn’t be TL if it was. Whatever Emma overcomes I think it’ll make her 10x more grateful, when she finally let’s herself have her happy moment. *cough* Neal *cough* We know that whenever Emma doubts herself, she always comes back fighting stronger then ever and eventually defeating her fears. She’s gonna overcome this new obstacle, I know it.

I couldn’t agree more! Remember what Neal said to Emma at the end of S2? “If there’s one thing I know about you, it’s that you don’t stop looking until you find what you’re looking for” (paraphrase), and Emma is looking at Neal longingly as he says it! Emma and Neal are meant to be; it’s just a matter of time. Emma needs to stop being scared, like Snow White did, otherwise she’ll never experience any of the good moments. Charming and Snow are clearly encouraging Emma to give it a go with Neal, because her happy ending will only begin when Emma allows herself to believe that she deserves her happy ending. And both Snow and Charming seem to recognize that Emma’s happy ending might just start with having hope that she and Neal could be happy together. Yet, Emma’s reticence comes from her belief that as the savior, she doesn’t get to take it easy. It took Emma all of S1 to accept that she’s the savior, and I think it’s going to take Emma all of S3 to accept that saviors deserves to have a happy ending too. True, being a savior meant she didn’t get to have Neal in her life the first time around, but it doesn’t mean she and Neal won’t eventually get their dream of Tallahassee. They will as sure as their love is true. I am even more convinced after tonight that Snow and Charming identify the love that Emma and Neal have for one another as being true love, because it’s lasted through everything. It’s just a matter of Emma being brave enough to accept that she owes it to herself to give Neal a second chance, because she deserves to have Tallahassee with him!

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I am really worried, like many of you, about SF happening first.  I don’t want it to.  I was prepared for CS and now I’m worried we’re not endgame anymore.  I will go down with this ship.  The parents ship it, Henry ships it, heck even Regina refers to him as “this person”.

Why do some of you think SF is happening first? Neal and Emma didn’t actually have that date, and Neal said he wouldn’t bother her if she didn’t show, and she didn’t (though she was going to). That means SF is going to be on hold until the end of S3. If anything, I think CS is about to hit us. BIG TIME. BUT… First, the promo for 3×11 had a brief image of Emma and Hook giving each other googly eyes. Icky, but at least it means CS is probably first in the order of things, which could mean SF is an end-game thing. First CS but then SF. I think that CS might happen if/when the new curse hits! Remember Emma in those plaid paints in 3×12 spoiler images? Well…if Emma is indeed cursed with some alter-ego and traipsing around NYC with Hook, well then she’s not in her right mind, is she? She’s cursed, potentially, since we heard Rumple say that not even Emma would be immune from this new curse! If CS happens when Emma is cursed then that’s more like when David Nolan and Kathryn were “married” during the curse.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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2.) Just because One’s shadow is taken away, doesn’t mean they are dead. Look at Rumpelstiltskin. His shadow is only god knows where, and he is fine.

Good point! Rumple is an immortal, and perhaps, just maybe, so is BF! She’s at least as old as Rumple, if not older, since she’s called the “original power.” Perhaps she is like a goddess or something, and therefore can’t really die, or if she does, can be resurrected. I like the idea of Tink using the pixie dust and belief to revive BF.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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