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I AM NOT an expert on anything, and I am not calling either ship endgame This just an analysis of the Swanfire relationship

Great essay! Did you write it? I was so impressed by it when I came across it on Tumblr earlier today.

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Maybe the dagger works like athames in Charmed. It sucks out power. So whe n u stab the dark one with it, it transfers its power to the person who did the stabbing. Maybe Rump is TAKING Pans power and thus Pan is no longer youthful.

That’s possible. His dagger seems to be quite useful (e.g. he summoned the Wraith with it in “Broken”).

Also, I think it’s increasingly possible that PP simply is Rumple’s father. I don’t think this is just one more of PP’s mind-games. Even though PP likes his games, I think his dying reverts him to his true form (i.e. Rumple’s dad) similar to how Belle’s love transformed the Beast back into his true human form.

It’s also possible that rather than PP just looking like a younger version of Rumple’s dad that it was actually a disguise/curse which completely changed his appearance to be unrecognizable to Rumple.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Only read if you want to be seriously spoiled. There are several new spoiler images coming out of a climatic face-off between Peter Pan and Rumplestiltskin in 3×11. Rumple stabs Peter Pan with his dagger only for Peter Pan to be replaced by a middle-aged man who looks similar to the actor who’s been cast as Rumple’s father, Stephen Lord. Rumple then holds the man and hugs him, as if he regrets having just stabbed him. One possible conclusion is that Rumple’s father has been disguised as Peter Pan this entire time. When Rumple stabbed PP, he inadvertently stabbed and killed his own father.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I’m not sure how I feel about PP = Rumple’s father. It just seems so….bizarre?

Some people have been maintaing that PP is Rumple’s father. It sounded like a crack-pot theory, but you know how Once is. There’s always a mega twist like Rumple being Cinderella’s fairy god-mother or the Queen of Hearts being Regina’s mother. 🙂

I think Rumple stabs Pan then Pan turns into Rumple’s father. The hug they share is a mutual “I forgive you”. Rumple’s dad forgives Rumple for stabbing him, Rumple forgives his father for abandoning him.

I tend to agree with this line of thinking as things stand.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Thanks Slurpeez. I think that is Rumple’s Dad!! Here’s the actor playing Rumple’s dad Normally.

I think you’re right in saying it’s the same actor, Stephen Lord. He’s aged a bit since that photo you provided, but the eye color is the same striking blue.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Here are a few more spoiler images:

Our mystery man has a face!

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I was thinking about the many different couples on this show and the many different forms of love:

1. First Love: The first and most obvious relationship we’re introduced to in the pilot is Charming and Snow’s love. Their relationship is an example of first love becoming true love, as evidenced by the kiss awakening Snow from the sleeping curse. We can be fairly certain that Snow and Charming had never been in love until they met each other. In 1×6, David tells his mother than when he marries, he wants it to be for true love, implying he’s still waiting to discover it. In 1×15, Snow tells Ruby that having someone you love must be nice but that she didn’t foresee ever finding it since she was on the run. And when Snow and David met by the troll bridge in 1×3, it was love at first sight, as evidenced by Ruth’s true love ring leading Charming to Snow. Another example of first love becoming true love could be Philip and Aurora, since they shared true love’s kiss. There are also other relationships which seem to fit this category, but have not been “proven” by true love’s kiss: Dreamy and Nova, Leopold and Eva, Ruth and her husband, Abigail and Frederick, perhaps Ruby and Peter, Ariel and Eric, Cinderella and Thomas, and Regina and Daniel. I’ll save Regina and Daniel’s relationship for further analysis in in the paragraphs to come.
2. Parental love. Emma has true love for her son Henry, as evidenced by her maternal kiss awakening her son from the sleeping curse in 1×22. Henry is a lucky kid, because Regina and Neal also have parental love for him too. Other prominent examples of parental love are Snow and David’s love for Emma, Geppetto’s love for Pinocchio, Jefferson’s love for Grace, Rumple’s love for Neal, and Henry Sr’s love for Regina. Cora was a late-bloomer, only realizing she loved Regina at the last moment, but we’ll throw her into mix for good measure, too.
3. Being in Love vs. True Love: The next type of relationship we see is that between Rumple and Belle. While their love is probably the first romantic love Belle has ever known, for Rumple this is not his first go at romance. It seems Rumple and his wife Milha really were in love, and that once they’d been happy together. However, their love proved not to be true love because Milha couldn’t stand to be married to a coward. Her love was not unconditional, and she eventually ran off with another man, Killian Jones. As the Dark One, Rumple seemed to have a fancy of being in love with Cora, but really, they only loved the darkness in one another. When Cora chose power over love by ripping out her own heart, that pretty much ended things dead in their tracks and came as a rude awakening to Rumple who concluded Cora must’ve never loved him at all. Rumple’s sad , unfortunate encounters with being in love sadly made him believe he was unloveable to the point where he finds it difficult to believe Belle could actually love him. Yet, despite all the horrible things, Belle loves Rumple for the good man he is deep down, making their love unconditional and true.
4. Second Love. Here is where we’re entering new territory in S3. It was revealed in 3×3 that there is such a thing as a second chance at true love. With Regina, she has allowed herself   fallaciously to believe that once she lost her first love, Daniel, that she’d never get another chance to love again. Yet, Tinerkbell astutely told Regina that a person can learn to love gain and even showed Regina that she has another soulmate alive and well in the EF, who we learned is Robin Hood. So, the opportunity for a second chance at love is real, but it’s simply a matter of whether Regina will learn to accept this new love and move on. By the end of the series, I believe Regina will get her second chance at a happily ever after with Robin Hood. Also, Emma Swan is inadvertently helping Killian Jones learn the lesson that Regina has yet to realize: it is possible to move on from one’s first love. The question remains though whether Emma herself will be Killian’s second chance or whether she is just his stepping stone to discovering true love with someone else.
5. Rediscovering Love. Is it possible for love to overcome past hurts? Can two people who love each other learn to forgive and start again? From the moment Emma stole Neal’s stolen car, they realized it was the start of something good. Young and in love, two orphans found a home together inside of that little yellow bug in which they conceived their son out of love. The girl who was destined to break a curse and the boy for whom the cursed was meant to locate found love together. And yet, forces greater than themselves conspired against them to keep them apart, such that Neal had to sacrifice his own hope for a home with Emma for the sake of getting her home to her parents. Nevertheless, Emma fulfilled that destiny and found Neal again despite all the odds. Now, Neal isn’t going to give up on his second chance of rekindling a love with Emma without a fight, because he regrets ever having ever let go of her. Emma is now faced with a difficult choice: to bury all the pain of that relationship with Neal or to do the hard thing and examine the past in order to discover if her belief in love is strong enough to overcome her own fear of rejection.
6. Unrequited Love: Mulan is a woman with very interesting motivations of love, honor, and sacrifice. “Love is sacrifice” is her mantra, and she lives by that code. She fights for a real sense of honor. She seems to love Philip as a brother in arms, and she is fiercely loyal to whomever she serves. First, she was protective of Philip against Aurora, because it seems that Mulan can be a bit possessive at times. And yet we watched Mulan as she came to love and cherish Aurora, perhaps as even more than just a friend. And yet, Mulan has had to go through the pain of watching Aurora and Philip demonstrably share true love’s kiss as well as having a baby together. Mulan’s sense of honor compels her to respect that her two friends, Aurora and Philip chose each other, and yet, it’s painful for her not to have someone love her in return. Unrequited love is full of heartache, but it doesn’t make it any less real. Now the question is whether Captain Hook’s love for Emma will prove to be unrequited or not. If Emma and Neal chose each other, will Hook’s own sense of honor compel him to wish them well?

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Does time actually flow at the same rate in SB as in NL? That’s confusing since PP said time is frozen in NL. The dwarves said it’s been a peaceful 5 days since the Charmings have been gone, and it’s been more or less a week in NL.

And we get to see the guys who look like the Darling brothers! How does Peter Pan know that Ariel traveled from NL to SB? Is it because he’s so in tune with the island he even knows when someone leaves it? And how exactly does he communicate with “Glasses” and Keychain” who are in SB?

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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The man next to Bobby seems shorter than him.

He could’ve been slouching and there is also the matter of perspective in that he’s standing closer to the camera than Bobby is. And every fan of LOTR knows that camera perspective can make an average-size man appear the size of a hobbit. Plus, mystery man appears to be equal height as MRJ, who is 5’9″.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I’m not so sure if they are different actors or not since the man in the BTS photo is only visible by his profile:

Stephen Lord has been cast as Rumple’s dad.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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