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@RumplesGirl wrote:

I still think it’s Tamara’s hand it makes more sense from a storytelling standpoint in my opinion, but I’m open to the possibility of Emma’s hand.

I agree. While the hand could be Emma’s, I’ve come around to support the viewpoint that the hand holding the gun is probably Tamara’s. The actress who plays her has very light brown skin, and I agree it makes way more sense for Tamara to point a gun at Neal’s face that it does for Emma to do so. Emma still loves Neal, and so I doubt she’d point a gun at him. Emma would fight for Neal, and the clear evidence to support this view is that she body-slams Tamara, probably in defense of Neal, who’s visible in the corner of the frame.

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@steliokontos1 wrote:

Whose hand is that? .

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Tamara’s hands look darker than the person’s hands in the frame

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@steliokontos1 wrote:

Was that Emma body slamming Tamara?! Sick!

Whose hand is that?

Could be Tamara

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

That’s interesting. I wonder if Regina ran away after the death of King Leopold and was having existential crisis and questioning her life-choices.

That would be interesting to watch but by that point she was very much the Evil Queen and in the promo she’s ordering the death of an entire village, though one can hope this weighs heavily on her conscience. I think maybe she figures out that being the Queen and sole ruler isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. She thought she could have it all by being the Queen but it turns out that there is something still missing in her heart, a void she thinks she can fill by killing Snow. Which seems very Regina-like.

Yeah, it would seem Regina is very evil in this episode, both in the flashbacks and potentially in SB. I just wonder if she ever took the time to step back from her tyranny in the EF to question if this is what she really wants after all. But I do think what she wants most is revenge on Snow White; it’s her vendetta, and she’ll probably disguise herself as an old hag or transform into someone else to fool Snow White. But it looks like Snow is quick to defend herself with a bow and arrow.

This line caught my attention:

A&E both say there are other EQ’s/no shortage of evil on their show

Makes me wonder if we’re going to see more than one Evil Queen. Perhaps we’ll see a flashback of when Maleficent and Regina became dangerous evil diva pals. ETA: Just re-watched the last bit of that interview, and Eddy said there are some evil people we haven’t met yet. Perhaps there’s yet another evil queen besides Regina or Maleficent we’ve yet to meet! Maybe Regina seeks out advice from a more experienced evil patroness.

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@Surayya wrote:

Regarding Owen being the child referred to in the prophecy & also ‘when’ the EQ pics fit in- I found this little gem of an interview on youtube from after? paleyfest & it answers both those questions nicely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLm-ltWVVY

Eddy says “He has the prophecy that Henry will be his undoing” So it seems more likely it is indeed Henry rather than Owen, unless they twist his statement- which they could… but it makes less sense to do so, as being Henry, it gives Rumple chances to choose love over power & help him towards redemption– choosing between Owen & power = dead Owen.

Edward Kitsis means Rumple believes Henry will be his undoing, not that Henry actually is the prophesied boy. I agree making it Henry would be very interesting for Rumple to choose love vs. power, but even just confusing Henry for the prophesied boy would be enough to give Rumple a moral dilemma. He might be so busy believing that Henry is his undoing that he completely misses the real threat that Owen presents to him, his son, and even Henry. And I still think “undoing” means the undoing of the Dark One curse, not Rumple’s death.

I think one needs to be extremely careful when it comes to taking a future prophesy at face-value. That is what got Rumple into trouble to begin with in the Manhattan flashback. He believed the Seer when she said his actions on the battlefield would leave his child fatherless, but he interpreted it to mean he would die during the battle so he wounded himself the night before. He couldn’t escape the prophesy, however, and ended up becoming the Dark One and letting his own son go by his own choices. So, it’s dangerous when Rumple looks at Henry and concludes he is the boy who led him to Baelfire and so he must also be the boy who’ll be his undoing. Rumple said the future is like a puzzle, so it could be less straightforward than Henry being said boy. It could be Owen (or even August).

Choosing between Henry & power = VERY, VERY tough decisions for him to make ie. how much does he want love, how much does he want Belle & Bae in his life, what happens when Emma, Snowings, & Regina, as well as pretty much all of SB find out- cause eventually they will, the list goes on & killing Henry means Hook will have a VERY long line of supporters in his gold hunting efforts 😉

Yes, Henry presents a challenge to his grandfather whether or not Henry is the actual boy in question. The mere belief that Henry is the prophesied child is enough to make Rumple choose love or power. Rumple will still be tempted to remove Henry just because Rumple would perceive him to be a threat (even if Henry doesn’t turn out to be a threat at all).

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Eddy goes on to talk about the Evil Queen ep- “we are going to find a surprising little slice/chapter of her life, in the early days, of when she took over & got rid of Snow's father” & A&E both say there are other EQ's/no shortage of evil on their show….looking forward to seeing what Regina got up to in her early days of ruling.

That’s interesting. I wonder if Regina ran away after the death of King Leopold and was having existential crisis and questioning her life-choices.

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With both Rumple and Regina, I think the only way they’re going to improve for the better is by giving up dark magic, whether willingly or unwillingly. Both are addicted to magic and both have chosen it over love before.

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My favorite take is still the spoof version of Robin Hood: Men in Tights with Cary Elwes. Also, the BBC did a mini-series adaptation of Robin Hood that was really good. But I’m really looking forward to OUAT’s take. Tom sounds like a fun actor.

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@RumbelleDearie wrote:

True – and I think I saw an interview with Bobby where he said “and how do we know Henry’s the right boy?”
My only issue with that theory is that the prophecy also stated that boy would lead Rumple to his son, and Owen had nothing to do with Rumple finding Nealfire.

Well, in a very roundabout way, Owen inspired Regina to adopt Henry, who then brought Emma to SB, and Emma reunited Baelfire and Rumple.

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@PriceofMagic wrote:

I thought the writers confirmed that Henry was the boy the seer prophesised about?

I don’t think so. They might just want us viewers to think the prophesied boy is Henry, but the future is notoriously difficult to predict with 100% accuracy. Makes for better drama if we’re kept guessing.

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@RumbelleDearie wrote:

Considering the fact that we see both Rumple and Regina interacting with Hook on his ship in the finale , I doubt Hook helps GOAT steal magic from either of them. He probably has his own agenda.

I agree GOAT would not steal magic from Regina, since as I wrote above, the taser would kill her; she’s still mortal. The main reason I think Rumple could be a very real target is because of the prophesy about a boy being his undoing (the boy could be grown-up Owen, who did inspire Regina to adopt Henry). The “undoing” could refer to Rumple loosing his powers rather than loosing his life. Plus, as the Dark One, I think only his dagger can kill him while he still has his magic. The only reason Hook came near to killing Rumple last time is because Rumple was outside of SB in a Land Without Magic. Hook’s agenda has always been to find a way to kill the Dark One. Now that Rumple has regained his power and hidden his dagger so no one can find it, the only chance Hook has at killing Rumple is if he joins forces with Tamara, who could probably steal Rumple’s powers, making Rumple just a mortal man again. Then Hook would have his chance to kill Rumple but we know something (or someone) prevents Hook from killing Rumple in the finale.

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