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@Phee wrote:

If they’re gonna zap Regina somehow to take away her powers, I dunno that they’d do the same thing to Rumple, just because it’s lacking originality from a storytelling standpoint.

GOAT may not be stealing power from Regina with the taser, since I’m sure that would kill her. Regina’s no Dark One and is still mortal, even with her magical ability. Plus, we know Regina survives and goes on Hook's ship with the Charmings, probably in search of Henry after GOAT kidnaps him. Since we know Regina won’t die, then I think she’s just be shocked with electricity by Greg in his attempt to torture her for answers about his father, Kurt Flynn. And Greg won’t let Tamara kill Regina, because only Regina knows the answer to the fate of his father.

I’m really curious to know what’s running through Hook’s mind in that scene where he’s looking at Regina, because what he wants and if he has even the slightest change of heart will impact on whether or not Rumple is under a real threat of being tasered. Maybe that thing would kill him? When the legend of the Dark One was born, it didn’t exactly take into account electrical devices that can suck magic, so the usual rules may not apply now with this new weapon in the mix.

I still think that if Greg is protecting Regina that Tamara will want to get her magic from the next best source: Rumplestiltskin, which would be how she gets Hook to team up with her: by promising to kill the Dark One. Yet, I still think nothing, not even modern technology or tasers, would be enough to kill Rumple while he still has his powers. I think the taser could steal his power, and then Hook would be free to kill his enemy with a sword.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

The hospital does make the most sense, so if we accept that then we have to theorize other possible locations of Kurt.

1) Hospital but GOAT are unaware of this

Which would be terribly sad, especially considering Greg leaves town in the finale. Greg would have to be pretty dumb to find a space filled with secret cells and not search every one for his father. And even though he’s getting it on with Tamara, I don’t think he’s completely brainless.

Agreed that Greg is smarter than he looks, even though Tamara is playing him. I think it could be the case that Greg’s dad, Kurt, is in the hospital basement but he’s gone mad after 28 years of confinement. (Amnesia Belle did seem kinda crazy after all, which was probably how she was during her 28 years of isolation in the hospital basement). If Greg does find crazy Kurt, Greg will want revenge on Regina and probably would resort to kidnapping Henry.

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RumplesGirl wrote: 2) Could Regina send Kurt to another land? Magic hasn’t totally dwindled out of SB. She still had some magical objects, like she used in An Apple as Red as Blood to get the hat to work.

3) Could Regina have erased Kurt’s memories?

4) Did Regina take Kurt’s heart and then kill him?

Dunno if she’d have had the magic for any of those. Unless the reason she had barely any left by the time we met her is because she used it all up on Kurt years earlier.

Agreed. I think it’s much likelier that Kurt is captured, crazy, or dead in SB. But you never know with these writers. Maybe Regina really did use her bulk supply of magic in 1983 to send banish Kurt to NL and now he goes by Captain Kurt.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Ithink this is a huge possibility. I think unlike Cora,Tamara has no designs to be the new Dark One…she just wants his magic. So if they use it on Rumple and the electrodes on Regina are doing basically the same thing then Tamara suddenly has the powers of the Evil Queen and the Dark One. Can you say gulp??

Yeah, and in the special BTS episode Price of Magic, Adam and Eddy said that Tamara was intent on acquiring the Dragon’s magical abilities, which usually would kill a magical creature in the process. Presumably, she is after stealing all magic from SB: fairy dust and dark magic alike.

I I’m really hesitant to say he is alive in SB (maybe the present day EF) just because his sole purpose in the episode seems to be as a counter to Rumbelle (because Rumple is still darker in this episode than in Skin Deep) and I can’t see him playing a larger role outside of his one episode (unless he’s needed for some reason in S3). As far as Tamara goes, I’m not 100% convinced she’s NOT the daughter of Hood and Marian. I know they said Tamara has not FTL counterpart but the child of Robin Hook and Marian would be a new thing.

I recall Adam and Eddy said somewhere that Robin Hood is being introduced in S2 because of how it fits into the story arch (probably mostly into Lacey with Rumbelle). His backstory won’t be introduced in S2, but they did say he could reappear in S3 (either in FTL flashbacks or even in the present-day). Also, there is the theory that Tamara is Marian’s daughter. Could be.

Edward Kitsis: “It’s done in the spirit of what we did a lot in Season 1 — bringing in a character and mashing him up with our story without having to do ‘the Robin Hood story.’ But now there is a character in our universe who, should the time arise, we would love to delve into further.” http://www.examiner.com/article/once-upon-a-time-spoilers-new-robin-hood-and-neal-teasers

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Too dark and plain to be her office or home. The walls look like a decent match to the colour of the hospital basement walls IMO. There’s one shot of Greg where the wall behind him looks rough, sort of like rock, which suggests they may be underground at some point. There’s a shot of Tamara with a smooth, plain wall, with a pattern like shafts of light through a window, similar to what we saw in Belle’s cell. And the shot of Hook looking down on Regina, the walls are definitely plain and grey and cold looking. That shot in particular feels like the hospital basement to me. They’d no doubt want to lock her up between capturing her and shocking her, so again, the basement cells makes sense. Also, it would be sort of fitting if Regina ends up as a prisoner down there herself, especially if this is something we end up seeing in an ep about Belle.

I think GOAT and Hook either have Regina captured in the hospital basement or maybe even underground in her own heart vault.

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I have a few more thoughts after re-watching the promo:

1) “How can you help me?” Captain Hook asks, presumably to Tamara. Also, Tamara says, “We know how to kill magical creatures” and so she offers to help Hook get revenge on Rumple. Only the Dark One can’t be killed except by his knife (which he will make sure no one ever finds again after the fiasco of The Miller’s Daughter near-death experience). So, if Tamara does use her magic taser on Rumple, it might only drain him of his powers without killing him.
2) “The battle to save magic continues.” the announcer says as Rumple then says to Regina, “there will be suffering.” Perhaps this is part of the final battle he foresees happening with the arrival of Tamara and potentially other outsiders.
3) “A new hero arrives,” says the announcer as Robin Hood enters the frame. Could Robin Hood be alive in present-day EF or SB? If so, then perhaps he is connected to Tamara not as her ally but as her enemy. Maybe he could help save SB and/or Henry.
4) “A family is torn apart” quite literally since Greg and Owen kidnap Henry in the finale and take him to another world.

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@Phee wrote:

Which is why I was wondering where their lair is, because if it’s under the hospital, (they may well have electro-shock equipment down there, because Nurse Ratched loved that stuff), then that probably means Kurt isn’t there like everyone has assumed, because if Kurt was down there too, they would have found him. What we’ve seen of Greg in the finale doesn’t suggest that he’s found his dad and wants to stay with him. So either they’re not under the hospital, or we were all wrong about what happened to Kurt, which in turn begs the question of what did happen to him?

If Regina is being held captive in the basement, it’s likely there would be a sort of “torture chamber” in the form of electro-shock therapy. It’s still possible that Kurt Flynn could be down there, too, but he might have gone crazy (which could drive Owen Flynn to want revenge). Otherwise, perhaps Regina is being held inside her own vault, which was where she hid out during the Cricket Game fiasco. Perhaps Tamara has a portable shock-therapy kit.

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@KFChimera wrote:

I’m wondering, since we know Regina is taken and experimented upon, what would happen if Emma & co think SHE is dead? Would they hold a funeral for her?

We’ve already had a fake out funeral this season, so I doubt they’d go there again.

That’s a good point, but the writers could pull another plot device on us. They used the frame-someone-for-fake-murder motif in S1 on MM and then in S2 on Regina.

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Still wondering why Regina and Emma are meeting and talking at the docks.

Could just be a “parley” in which Emma and Regina meet on neutral ground to discuss Henry’s safety and well-being.

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

ETA: I think this could be Henry being kidnapped by GOAT

Isn’t that from Welcome to Storybrooke when Henry runs into Greg in the forest?

You’re probably right.

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@KFChimera wrote:

I’m wondering, since we know Regina is taken and experimented upon, what would happen if Emma & co think SHE is dead? Would they hold a funeral for her?

Oh, maybe, since the funeral scene could be in honor of Regina if she’s missing and presumed dead. I think despite their huge differences, the Charmings would still honor the memory of Henry’s mom, for his own sake and grieving process.

Henry loves her, and despite all the evil things Regina has done, my sense is that Charmings & Co would be sad if she died. Maybe not as sad as Emma looks, but that could be reflected sadness from Henry? Especially if Emma feels guilt that she is Sheriff and she has failed to catch the threat she noticed that killed Pinocchio v. 1.

Yes, I think Emma would feel a sense of guilt/grief if Henry thought Regina had died and Emma felt powerless as the savior to prevent it from happening. I’m not sure how much Snow and Prince Charming would really miss Regina’s evil attempts to murder them, but I think Snow would especially feel a sense of regret at how things ended and would have remembered the way young Regina used to be before Daniel died.

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I read an interesting analysis on Tumblr why Regina would curse Belle to make Mr. Gold be bad:

“You always choose darkness.” She thinks that Belle is the only reason he ever tried to be good. Like Henry was HER only reason to be good. She gave Belle Lacey memories to entice him to choose darkness. To PROVE that he’s not better than her. To challenge him. That he can’t be a good person without her watching. And he has to prove that he can be a good person for its own sake.http://ticktockdearie.tumblr.com/post/48013053831/guys-i-know-why-regina-is-doing-this

ETA: I think this could be Henry being kidnapped by GOAT

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Maybe. I think she’s surprised by it, but I’m not sure about turned on. I maybe just don’t get it.

I’ll keep this PG but the way she said it and the way she looked at him, like he was something to eat and quite tasty and like “ooh. a bad boy. lovely” I think Lacey has a thing for the dark in Rumple (and now I’m questioning if she’ll be Belle before the season ends…)

😆 You could be right. She did look at Mr. Gold like a yummy snack.

Yeah, I think they’re from The Evil Queen episode.

And apparently sentences an entire village to die? Excellent. 😈

Very twisted, but certainly in keeping with EQ.

I think Hook is very good a playing different sides. He may start out siding with Tamara, who says she can kill magical creatures, which would play into his revenge about killing Rumple. Yet, when Hook sees Tamara targeting Emma, who also has magic, i believe Hook will actually help save the day and provide the residents of SB safe-haven on his ship.

Agreed. I also think he’ll draw a line at helping someone who would hurt a child.

Yeah, even Hook has his limits.

Yes, I think Regina is being experimented on by scientists Tamara and Greg Mendel. ❗

The EvilRegals will love that. Does Hook help them capture Regina??

Yeah, brace yourselves. I do think Hook has has a hand, err, hook, in helping to capture Regina, which could be his double-crossing her and delivering her to Greg and Tamara. Yet, I think Hook will save Henry, and so Regina and he will tolerate each other by the finale Also, I think Greg might be torturing Regina to get answers about his father’s fate.

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