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@RumplesGirl wrote:

I think it will be Cora. I’ve been speculating that she wouldn’t make it to the season finale, and that the rest of the season will deal with Greg and the outside world. I think Regina will kill Cora, hopefully by crushing her heart (once she finds it…)

Let’s hope so. I really am growing tired of how much manipulation Cora gets away with, and I want Regina to open up her pretty eyes and face her mother once and for all. I hope the reason for Regina killing Cora is to protect Henry. I can envision a scenario in which Cora has the knife to control the Dark One, she will use it to try and harm Henry, but Regina will intervene by destroying the Dark One’s knife, thus saving Henry and ultimately undoing the Dark One’s curse.

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@tabsicle wrote:

Maybe Pinocchio as a boy will become a friend for Henry?

Yes, I hope so. I posted BTS pics of the actors who play both characters hanging out together.

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@PJSparkles wrote:

Some people aren’t mature enough at 25 to handle kids but it seems unfair to deny people sexual rights based what is right for one person and not another, but that is for a different board and a different time.
I will agree you have a valid claim but what would you say about Cinderella?

In another time and place, marriage amongst adolescents would have been the norm. Cinderella being married to Prince Thomas and pregnant with their first child at 17 or 18 would have been accepted and welcomed in the EF. While the story of Cinderella is only a fairytale, it would have been similar in the real world a hundred years ago. Young people grew up faster, men settled down with women and started families at a younger age. Today, however, society has totally shifted. It is only in our modern day when young people of 18, the legal age of adulthood, are expected to remain immature. That is why in modern Western culture, teenage pregnancy, both inside and outside of marriage, is unacceptable. Even young adults as old as 29 can still be stuck in perpetual adolescence, because the culture at large almost expects them to be “living it up” and not taking responsibilities so seriously. That is why in cursed SB, Ashley was being pressured to give up her baby. Yet, she wanted to take on the responsibility of motherhood and marry her baby’s father, whom ironically, was really already her husband.

Today, young people still fall in love, but they don’t have the cultural norms or expectation to help guide them towards maturity. Birth control allows people to have sex without the consequence of conception. However, when life happens and a woman of 18 gets pregnant (if contraception fails, for example), that child is often a reality check to what responsibility is. In Neal’s case, he didn’t know about his son, otherwise there’s no way he’d have left to let Emma give up Henry for adoption. There’s no doubt in my mind Neal would have proposed to Emma, as was the custom in Baelfire’s upbringing in the EF to marry young and raise a family. Also, if August hadn’t stolen the money that Neal left for her, Emma would have been financially able to keep Henry. So, my own opinion is that Emma and Neal had real love, but that circumstances about Emma’s destiny, bad choices, and August’s interference kept them apart. Perhaps Emma would have still found SB if she’d kept Henry and settled down with Neal, but then perhaps not. So, for the purpose of the story, Neal let Emma go. Was that the mature decision? Maybe not, but then, maybe yes. It’s difficult to tell since it’s all fiction.

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@Ollliiivia wrote:

I really really hope they don’t make Rumple turn out to be Regina’s father. I try not to be critical of the writers until we’ve seen a full season or know where a storyline is going, but I will be so disappointed if this turns out to be true for all the reasons everyone has already listed. It just doesn’t make any sense based on how Gold/Rumple has always treated her, and I don’t think it’s realistic for him to not realize she was his. He knows who her mother is and would know when they were together, so I don’t know how he could not at least think she might be his daughter if it were a possibility.

Agreed. If I thought it could be done in a believable way, I wouldn’t be so against it, but it just does not compute, given what we already know. If Regina’s bio-dad ends up being someone other than HenrySr, my money is on it being George.

Since I’ve long doubted Henry Sr. to be Regina’s birth dad, I still think of King George as being Regina’s dad. George had gold-lust and wanted children, and Cora was the miller’s daughter who could supposedly spin straw into gold and pledged her first-born child to Rumplestiltskin. There’s a nice dichotomy there, though I could be wrong.

Any relationship verging on a personal nature between Cora and Rumple, I’d imagine would be mostly instigated by her. If she had a lust for power, even back then, not only would she have found Rumple sexy as all hell, but she’d have been conniving enough to try and make him vulnerable and break down his defenses so she could tap into more of the power he held. I can’t see Rumple letting someone break all the way through his walls though. He couldn’t afford to let himself be vulnerable, because he had to remain focused on his mission to find Bae. So I dunno how believable I’d find it if Corumple ended up in bed together. I certainly think she’ll try, but can’t imagine him giving in.

I still think that if anyone could bed the Dark One, it’d be Cora. (Not even Bell managed that in the EF). Cora’s a seductress and a temptress. With everything she does, she has an ulterior motive. Unless a woman were born into royalty like Snow White, sex and marriage were the only way a woman could have power in her day. I might be mistaken, and perhaps Rumple was just a teacher and Cora his apprentice of magic, yet that kiss came from somewhere and seemed like more than an old flirtation. Cora said, “Let’s seal it like we use to,” suggests to me that part of the deal she made to keep Regina was sealed with more than just a kiss. I just imagine Cora and Rumple having a lot of rivalry both in and out of the bedroom.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@HappyEndings wrote:

@Pan14 wrote:

I’m wondering if Lacy could be the HER on greg’s cell phone.

They(writers) said that “Her” and the License Plates are mean nothing.

No the writers never said that. Barbara Barnett interviewed Jane Espensen and asked if we’d find out who HER is this season. Barbara misinterpreted her answer to think HER was insignificant, but if you go back to that interview, that is not what Jane said at all.

I think Lacey could either be Mr. Gold’s real name or this could refer to Tinker Bell getting her own backstory, which the writes said she very well could eventually.

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However, The writers also said we wouldn’t see Peter Pan this Season, so if he does show up in whatever way, they would be contradicting themselves.

These writers can be tricky and often word things in such a way as to give hints without full spoilers. While they said we won’t see Peter Pan this season that doesn’t mean we won’t meet him. For example, if Baelfire were adult Peter Pan, we would’ve met him, but we may not find out the full story or see a young Peter until next season. Also, the writers did confirm we could get Tinker Bell with her own backstory, so Tamara being Tink makes sense to me.

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Perhaps Greg’s HER is really an evil queen from another land like Oz (though we won’t see it until season 3). Otherwise, we could see Cora try to usurp power as queen and challenge Regina.

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Yes, the quill looks to be the same one Rumple used to get Cinderella to sign over her first born child. Also, I think Cora and Rumplestiltskin were involved romantically, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Rumple is Regina’s father. At the same time, I wouldn’t rule that out either with these writers. Not saying I’d approve, but it could be that Rumple is Regina’s birth father without being aware of it, since I don’t believe he’d ever knowingly mistreat his own child. It’s already so sad that Rumple mistreated Regina, and it’d be doubly tragic if she were his daughter.

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@CrownedWithLaurels wrote:

OK, so watching The Stable Boy (as I type) I noticed that when King Leopold comes to ask for Regina’s hand, he looks at Cora strangely when he says, “We lost her mother years ago.” And, “We have…scoured the land…”
I could be reading way too much into this, but if the theory is correct about Cora killing Eva, perhaps this was an early hint?
If Cora did kill Eva, would King Leopold even have known?
Many questions that are going to take over a week to find out!! :-/

Several people here on the forum have wondered if Cora poisoned Eva, and perhaps she did, but I don’t think she’ll actually succeed. The episode description for 2×15 says,

“Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was, the Blue Fairy offers Snow White an unconventional enchantment that could help save her dying mother, Queen Eva,”

I think the BF was able to intervene and help save Eva by making her the Lady of the Lake, whom Lancelot mentioned raised him.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

@Phee wrote:

For about 5 seconds I entertained the idea that Hook gets it and tells the Charmings he’ll give it to them in exchange for info on where Rumple is. But there’s no way the Charmings would give him that info, so they must get it some other way.

Agreed. Especially since now the know that Rumple is Henry’s other Grandfather. They are all officially family now.
What are the chances that when Snow is up in that tree, she sees Cora and Regina talking about looking for the dagger, but she and Charming find it first?

I agree. I don’t think Charming and Emma would betray Rumple, especially now they know he is Henry’s grandpa. I think Hook finds out where Rumple is from the globe that Rumple used to find Bae. Or maybe from Tinker Bell.

I was thinking that perhaps the map was a fake, planted by Rumple to mislead anyone looking for the dagger. So, while Cora and Regina are on a wild goose chase, Snow and David manage to find it, perhaps even in the clock tower. Why else would they be in there?

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