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Participant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
So again, we are left to wonder if #6 if referring to a wish, wishes, vow or vows. Probably not important, but I will point out that we do have nuns, that are important to the story line, like Blue as an example, who have taken a vows or Regina who after being captured, possibly vowed to get even. So for me, I’m very curious as to which meaning of the word “voeux” they are referring to.
I’ll put my money on “my vows” since it fits in with a nutty theory of mine. There was a spoiler that Captain Hook falls in with a righteous crowd. What if Cora turns Killian into a nun so that he must take his vows upon entering the convent?! 😮
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantHere is real solid proof that Regina let Henry go with Emma to find Baelfire: 😀 *Happy Dance*
On what was a cold and wet day in Vancouver, Jennifer Morrison, Michael Raymond-James and Jared Gilmore braved the elements to film scenes for episode 14 of Once Upon a Time.
http://vancityfilming.com/articles/vancouver-plays-new-york-for-once-upon-a-time-filming/
As to why Emma is running after Nealfire, it could be that he has fallen in with the wrong crowd. The last time we saw him, he was a thief. Maybe he’s on the run in general for owing money to someone, or maybe he’s wanted by the police. Or it could be that Emma and Henry’s arrival in town is more than he could take, and he doesn’t want to be found by his father. Maybe Henry has something to do with it."That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantMore Emma in NYC pictures!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@AntBee wrote:
lol. I think I found the real reason why Emma was so eager to leave her parents again after just getting back from present day Fairy Tale Land. Imagine having to be in the bedroom right beside them in an apartment that probably has thin walls. 😆
😆 Yeah, and Snow White’s apartment is more like a studio loft, with an open bedroom downstairs. No walls mean Emma and Henry wouldn’t even be able to go downstairs to make breakfast without seeing Mom and Dad/Gram and Gramps naked in full view. 😳
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@Elle wrote:
I want Rumpelstiltskin to work for it–to really work for it. Like he is with Belle. Both he and Regina are people who don’t think of the people they have hurt that much–Regina is more severe in this department. I want something to go not as planned for him. And I want him to truly understand how he hurt Baelfire–his son grew up alone in a world that he did not belong in, and probably struggled with all that. (All assuming that Neal is Bae, of course).
And if Baelfire is Neal, he should know how he ruined his dream of Tallahasse with Emma, who has also suffered in all this as well.
I also want Mr. Gold/Rumple really to work for his redemption and to understand how much he hurt his son, first by letting him go, and then by devising a curse that would cost Baelfire the love of his life, Emma, and his son, Henry.
However, there’s another argument to consider from a story-telling perspective. If it hadn’t been for Rumple breaking his deal with his son, Rumple and Bae would’ve died from old age in our world, Rumple never would’ve created the curse, and Bae never would’ve met or fallen in love with Emma, who was born 250 years later in the EF, and Henry never would’ve existed. So, at least for a drama-packed series, I owe a lot of thanks to Rumple’s cowardice.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@Phee wrote:
@slurpeez108 wrote:
I have my own theory about Barrett being “the outsider” to SB. E&A said in their official podcast for 2×9 that after the hiatus, we’re going to see King George on trial for the killing of a mouse and a botched frame-job of a werewolf. If proven guilty, he must travel to a state penitentiary outside of SB, which would make him lose his FTL-idenity. As a former DA for SB, King George (aka “Decker”) was an official for the state of Maine prior to the curse being broken. I think that Barrett is also a state official who comes to SB to watch George’s/Decker’s trial. Jennifer Morrison gave a recent spoiler that Barrett isn’t recognized by the other residents of SB as a fairytale character, but he could be from another far-off land. According to the casting call, Barrett has a dark side he tries to justify. I think he could be the “something extra” that the Charmings have to find a way to deal with. His presence in town could stir up trouble if he’s someone with a “dark side” who could be suspicious about magic being in SB.
That is an interesting theory, but I’d interpreted their comments in the podcast sort of differently. The question they were asked is if George would be formally arrested for murder. They said that SB isn’t exactly open to outsiders, (and I admit, their use of that particular word does seem to link to Barrett), and if he was convicted of murder he’d have to go to a state penetentiary, and the charges would be for the murder of a mouse and a frame job on a wolf. They did say that we’ll see what happens to George, but I got the impression it’d be some sort of special, SB justice, as opposed to a proper, real world trial, which would involve a whole lot of extra cover up stuff to make it look real, and frankly, I doubt any SBers would think he was worth the effort of setting up all that cloak and dagger stuff. Given that SB operated in and of itself for 28 years, largely shut off from the outside world, I don’t necessarily think that George was registered with any real world, official, legal organisation in order for him to be SB’s DA. Just like the SB school system didn’t have to answer to any state regulations, and Dr Whale wasn’t officially registered on any medial board anywhere. I’m thinking that George’s punishment will be something slightly more medieval, as opposed to a real world trial and a jail sentence.
I get what you’re saying about SB being closed off to the real world. Yet, even before Emma broke the curse, we saw that the judicial system of SB was certainly linked to the greater state of Maine; when Mary Margaret was thought guilty of Kathryn’s murder, MM was going to be sent across the town boarder to an outside penitentiary. That means the small court system in SB feeds into a much larger state judicial system, and it follows that as the DA, Decker/George must’ve been a state official (even though it was the curse who made him a lawyer in the first place).
As the town sheriff, Emma also won’t allow George’s trial to become just a medieval show of “justice.” Emma grew up in our world, and when Dr. Whale tried to form a mob to murder Regina, Emma stood firm and said she’s still the sheriff and that’s not how we handle things in this land. So I believe she will execute the law with due process, assume George is innocent until proven guilty (even though she suspects otherwise), and he’ll be given a fair hearing with a jury of his peers. Also, since Regina’s no longer the mayor of a cursed town, she won’t be able to pull the strings to get George out of trouble.
Also, while SB may not have been on any state map, that doesn’t mean no outsiders could enter it. Emma’s and August’s arrival in town last season show that outsiders could in fact enter and leave. They just needed to know where to look. Also, whoever brought baby Henry to SB ten years before Emma’s arrival, was able to come and go. (I think August did since when Emma questioned if he’d ever been there before, he didn’t give a straight answer). Barrett, though “an outsider’, could have a knowledge of SB, because though unrecognized as being from FTL, he could be from another far-off land and have heard about the dark curse bringing people of the EF to a without magic. Perhaps he came to our world to seek out SB, thereby knowing where to look.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@CinnamonHummingbird wrote:
A lot of people have been asking why Emma Swan wasn’t helping her parents at the hole in the ground filming on Monday, and I didn’t know the answer. Well, today I do know the answer. She’s not in Storybrooke, she’s left for New York to find Neal Cassady.
Let that sink… 😮
😯 *sinking*
I’m so excited by this spoiler in particular! Surely, this must mean that Neal is Bealfire. We know from the promo that Mr. Gold will ask Emma to locate his son. Emma has no idea who he is, but she’s somehow able to track him down, because she’s kinda amazing at finding people (must run in the family).
Low and behold, she finds Neal where she meant to find Bae. Her face, while happy, also suggests wonder and awe. Her mind races and her heart pounds as she realizes that her mission has led her to him.
“Baelfire?” she asks, a huge lump forming in her throat.
Grinning as if to confirm what Emma has just realized, Bae gazes tenderly at the woman he’s never ceased loving. He’s been hoping for her to come ever since he received news that she’d broken his father’s horrible curse. Though he’d desired to find her, fear that she could never forgive him made him hesitate. Her mere presence here washes away all trace of doubt, and he is overcome by admiration for her bravery. He notices Emma has turned the keychain he gave her into a necklace pendant, igniting a hope in him that despite what he did to her, Emma has never stopped loving him either.
Suddenly, the memories of betrayal come rushing back to Emma. With anger and confusion, Emma demands to know how he could just leave her to take the blame for his crime. With softly spoken words, Baelfire responds he couldn’t keep her from fulfilling her destiny as the savior.
“You knew all along?!” Emma’s voice quivers as she realizes this man is Rumple’s lost son.
“Let me buy you a drink,” replies Bae. He then proceeds to tell his tale of a man with a mysterious box. Astonished, Emma thinks of August, and then of all the years she’s missed with Neal, err, Baelfire.
“I have something to tell you, too,” Emma confesses. Curious, as Emma leans in, Bea studies her beautiful face with a questioning look. “I have a son, Henry, who is 11-years-old,” she half whispers so only he can hear.
Bae’s head reels as he does the math.”You mean, I have a son, too?” Bae staggers. Emma only nods yes to confirm the existence of the most important person in her life, Henry.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI have my own theory about Barrett being “the outsider” to SB. E&A said in their official podcast for 2×9 that after the hiatus, we’re going to see King George on trial for the killing of a mouse and a botched frame-job of a werewolf. If proven guilty, he must travel to a state penitentiary outside of SB, which would make him lose his FTL-idenity. As a former DA for SB, King George (aka “Decker”) was an official for the state of Maine prior to the curse being broken. I think that Barrett is also a state official who comes to SB to watch George’s/Decker’s trial. Jennifer Morrison gave a recent spoiler that Barrett isn’t recognized by the other residents of SB as a fairytale character, but he could be from another far-off land. According to the casting call, Barrett has a dark side he tries to justify. I think he could be the “something extra” that the Charmings have to find a way to deal with. His presence in town could stir up trouble if he’s someone with a “dark side” who could be suspicious about magic being in SB.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@medchen wrote:
I alsways go by the assumption that everything that hasn’t aired jet is speculation and guesses. No one in here have first hand knowledge on what is going to happen. Unless it is a spoiler intentionally put out there by OUaT.
Agreed. The only things that are really reliable about future episode are synopses, promos, sneak-peeks, casting-calls, official photos, and tweets/interviews from cast members, writers, and producers. Everything else, including fan spoiler pics, fan tweets, and fan speculation is all subject to error and/or wild theories. It’s all good.
@medchen wrote:
Uh! I’m loving this.. Who can it be Archie, August, Granny..or perhabs going back to Graham….
I agree the real culprits are most likely Cora and Hook (If it’s not about Graham).Since I don’t want Archie to die, I really like the idea that there’s suspicion over Graham’s death because he deserved justice. I also agree that the real culprit could be Cora, Hook, or even King George (if he’s not already behind bars for Gus’ murder).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@Phee wrote:
Charming kept telling them all to run to the City Hall for safety.
Hmmm.
Perhaps Cora, Regina and Mr. Gold are having an epic show-down and Charming orders everyone into an enchanted “safety zone” in the town hall! 😮
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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