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  • December 5, 2012 at 3:05 pm in reply to: Who wrote Henry’s book anyway? #163774
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    @Gypsy wrote:

    True, Jefferson was trapped in Wonderland, but, after the curse, in Storybrooke, he kept his memory.

    He and Regina have a strained relationship, but, a relationship, none the less.

    He is the only one she could ‘reminisce’ or ‘brag’ to about ‘the old days’ during the last 28 yrs.

    She was there with Snow, Charming and the wardrobe right before the curse.

    Jefferson could’ve collected some of the stories from his travels, and some from Regina, after the curse.

    I’ve been thinking about this for a while, and the inclusion of the Stephen King nods connected to Jefferson, I think, are clues pointing to the fact that Jefferson did, indeed, write the book.

    I agree you could make a strong case for Jefferson being the author of Henry’s book. In fact, you could make a strong case for a lot of different characters, which makes it all quite exciting. There are still others who could’ve remembered life in the EF. August and maybe even the Blue Fairy could’ve written the book. I bet August at least knows the author of Henry’s book pretty well, given that he’s also a writer and has an impressive knowledge of antique book-binding. The BF might’ve preserved her memories with a strong form of magic and written the book as part of her “final preparations.” There’s a theory she’s been on the inside giving covert instructions to August on the outside with regards to Neal, Emma and Henry the entire time. Maybe August has been sending carrier pigeons with postcards between him the the BF in SB for nearly 3 decades.

    @TimeSpacer wrote:

    I love the idea of the library playing an important role and I hope we see Belle uncovering it this season. As for the book, at first I thought either Rumple or August wrote it. I hadn’t thought of Snow, but I really like that idea, if they could explain the final entry which showed Charming putting Emma in the wardrobe.

    After watching “Queen of Hearts”, I had a new idea. Before the curse was enacted, Cora seemed awfully certain that Emma would succeed in breaking the curse in 28 years and she clearly wanted that to happen so she could be reunited with Regina when Regina would be at her lowest point. Could Cora have written the book, intending it for Emma? I don’t think we can be sure how much of her story and of Rumple’s was actually included in the book.

    I agree it’s really unusual that Cora knew all about Rumple’s dark curse, despite her geographic isolation. She knew the curse would be broken in 28 years, she knew time would be frozen, and she knew that the people cursed wouldn’t remember who they are. It sounds like Cora could be clairvoyant. The only catch to that theory is Cora didn’t know about the stableboy until young Snow White blabbed, she didn’t know that Hook had come to assassinate her at her daughter’s behest, she didn’t know about the squid ink being written on the parchment of paper, she didn’t know Emma’s heart was invincible, and if Cora’s the miller’s daughter, she didn’t know Rumplestiltskin’s name at first but later guessed it. However, it’s possible she didn’t foresee those things because she emotionally invested in those major events. Maybe Cora has selective clairvoyance, like Emma’s gift as a human lie-detector seems selective depending on her emotional investment.

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 2:54 pm in reply to: Casting Call #163771
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    Or perhaps the little girl is someone in the past. What if she is someone born magical like a young Cora whom Rumple tries to mold? After watching “Queen of Hearts” I was left wondering how Cora knew so much about the dark curse Rumple had designed, considering she was stranded in Wonderland at the time. Cora knew the curse would last 28 years, that the people cursed wouldn’t remember who they were and that time would be frozen. Either Cora is clairvoyant or she overheard Rumple’s plans to design a dark curse. 💡

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 1:00 pm in reply to: How did Hook escape Neverland & what he learned there #163758
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    @Phee wrote:

    @PJSparkles wrote:

    So I was wondering if anyone had theories as to how Hook returned to the Enchanted Forest from Neverland. I am clueless but this point is eating at me. He got there with a bean and was determined to not return until he found a way to skin his croc. Did he learn about the dagger in Neverland? Did Tink or Peter know something? I kinda think Peter is Bae (and Neal). Maybe Peter/Bae told Hook about the weapon when he found out that his mother was killed by his father and that his father lied about where she had gone.

    Yes, I’m on the Bae=Peter train, so it’d fit for me if that’s how Hook discovered that there was a weapon that could kill Rumple. In the scene with Belle, he didn’t seem to know exactly what that weapon was, but he could have had some altercation with Bae in Neverland where the kid accidentally let it slip that the Dark One could be killed, but then refused to give more info, so Hook set off to find it himself.

    I like the idea that Captain Hook learned about the dark one’s knife from Peter Pan/Baelfire, but I hope it was done stealthily on Hook’s part so that Peter/Bae didn’t realize with whom he shared his father’s secret. Despite how corrupted Rumple let go his son, I don’t think Bae would knowingly betray his father like that since Baelfire is too good a character. Maybe Bae entrusted that secret to Tinker Bell, whom Captain Hook then tricked into giving the secret (like Hook convinced Tinker Bell to reveal the location of Peter’s hideout).

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 12:28 pm in reply to: Regina’s speech about loving her mom #163756
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    @The Fairest wrote:

    @Nightreader wrote:

    I’ll agree that it could just be that Regina’s a seriously disfunctional person but… well the scene didn’t feel right to me. Every word felt out of character and she didn’t look sincere to me either (and I know Lana’s a brilliant actress so it can hardly be that I just didn’t like her acting in the scene).
    I suppose it could be as myril said, that she just meant that she was striving for her approval, but even then the speech feels over the top to me :/

    I agree. The scene was very out of character. It felt like the writers were trying to retcon the Evil Queen’s character by adding this little scene to make her look more sympathetic.

    Maybe the writers were playing with our sympathy, but I get why they included that scene. It was to explore what happens when the mother-daughter relationship goes awry and to paint a contrast to Snow and Emma’s budding mother-daughter relationship. Also, while I agree the scene felt a bit forced given what we know about Cora and Regina’s complicated relationship, we’re analyzing it from an outside perspective. Imagine being emotionally abused and manipulated by your own mother for your entire life and hearing that she only does it out of love for you. You’d be pretty messed up and confused about what constitutes real maternal love, right? Up to that point, Regina had banished her mother to be rid of her influence, and yet, even when Cora wasn’t around to manipulate her daughter, Regina became increasingly like her mother, whom Regina vowed never to become. That just goes to show how deep Cora’s psychological grip was over her daughter.

    Wishing her mother dead shows how much Regina needed to lay the past to rest and start a new chapter, but the fact that she loved her mother after all the horrible things Cora did to Regina shows what a deep hold Cora had over Regina. I think that tight psychological grip is the true reason why Regina took out so much disproportionate anger on Snow White instead of the true culprit, her mom. Regina, who’d been emotionally abused, couldn’t stand up to her abuser. It’s why Regina dealt with her mother only indirectly, first by banishment and then by arranging for her mother’s assassination, where Regina never had to speak to her mother again. It’s also why Regina, the abused, became the abuser of young Snow White, who was a much weaker and easier target than Cora was.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 11:44 am in reply to: Episode title #163752
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    @Phee wrote:

    @slurpeez108 wrote:

    Speaking of Barrett, here is a new spoiler about his character:

    Question: Any fresh intel on who Ethan Embry is playing on Once Upon a Time? —Jenny
    Ausiello: Jennifer Morrison knows about as much as the rest of us — which isn’t much. “[All we] know is he’s an outsider, he is a stranger and he is not a fairytale character,” she says, before quickly adding, “at least he’s not someone anyone recognizes from fairytale land.”

    Can just imagine Jennifer’s thought process, “Oh crap, did I just say he’s not a fairytale character? Adam and Eddy are gonna have my head. Ummm…OK, I can cover for this.” 😆 I’ve been hoping he’d be someone from our world, so hopefully that’s confirmation. Though it could genuinely mean that he’s a situation like Dr Whale, where he’s from another land, it’s just that no one recognises him, but I think it’ll be more interesting if he’s a real world person.

    Good point. Barrett could be like Dr. Whale in the sense that he’s from a different world. What’re certain are he’s an outsider and he was unaffected by the curse since he’s able to cross the SB boundary like August did. So our options are: 1) Barrett is from our world 2) he somehow came to our world before the dark curse hit (like Emma and Pinocchio did) or 3) his world was unaffected by the curse.

    On Dec 2, Ethan tweeted this pic of the Entering SB sign…
    http://instagram.com/p/Sts1WqJm3B/
    …which is a reasonable indicator that whoever he is, he can come and go from town. And the caption he put on it, “Let the games begin,” is all sorts of intriguing.

    I’m guessing we’ll get a brief intro of Barrett in ep 11, much like we got with Neal, and it won’t be until a few eps later that he comes to town.

    Ethan’s tweet is really intriguing. The message “let the games begin” makes me wonder if Barrett will first pop up in “The Cricket Game” (ep. 2×10) and then maybe he’ll feature more strongly in “The Outsider” (2×11). Game could refer to King George standing trial for murder (game in the sense of cat and mouse and being caught for a wrong-doing).

    Loved the Once Upon a Time midseason finale. What’s coming up when the show returns? — Joan
    NATALIE: The Charming family has been reunited, but look for more bad news on the horizon. When we asked Ginnifer Goodwin and Jennifer Morrison about the joyous reunion, they both offered up ominous answers that may or may not have to do with the arrival of Hook and Cora. “It’s, of course, short-lived because yet another obstacle is going to be thrust between all of these characters,” Goodwin says, with Morrison adding, “New terrible things need to happen for us to work out.” Any guesses as to what’s in store for the Storybrooke gang? http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Bones-Vampire-Diaries-Nashville-Spoilers-1057133.aspx

    There’s another spoiler that the Charmings will have to deal with yet another obstacle, but almost unbelievably, it sounds like it’s in addition to Cora and Hook’s arrival. Perhaps the Charmings must figure out how to deal with an outsider like Barrett and trying George for the murder of Gus.

    Josh Dallas had something similar to say:

    “With all great epic love stories, there are always obstacles thrown in front of the lovers – particularly with our show. There are some things happening that the Charming family has to deal with. Cora and Hook are showing up, and we have something else happening in Storybrooke that needs our attention.”

    That ‘something else’ is definitely in addition to dealing with Hook and Cora (which could be dealing with prosecuting Decker/King George).

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 5:57 am in reply to: Poor Regina #163732
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    @MagicKingdomღ wrote:

    I felt bad for Regina during last week’s episode, but I understood why the Charmings didn’t invite her. Too much has happened between them for them to just become besties. The fact that the they’re being polite to one another should be enough for Regina. She was almost torn apart by an angry mob a few weeks ago, and now, she’s getting praise from the people who she tried to kill. Regina should be grateful. And I seriously hope the reason why she goes off the rails doesn’t have anything to do with Henry not inviting her over for dinner. That would be silly.

    Yes, it would be silly for a normal, level-headed person to fly off the rails for not getting a dinner invite. Yet, Regina is an unstable, recovering magic addict without a support network and a crazy, manipulative witch of a mother who’s just arrived in SB. Any threat (real or not) that Regina perceives that she’s losing Henry could be enough to push Regina off the no-magic bandwagon. Plus, with Mr. Gold whispering dangerous thoughts of Regina losing custody of her son, she’s bound to snap at some point.

    Also, Regina has a very bad history at misdirecting the blame where her mother is involved. Regina went crazy for something her mother did (killing Daniel) but then proceeded to take out her anger on Snow, who was young and manipulated by Cora. Regina’s anger at what her mother did is disproportionally taken out on the Charmings and everyone else. Cora being in town could seriously take away whatever little sanity Regina managed to recover since the curse was broken. If Regina perceives that Cora could try and take Henry, she may feel the only way to protect him is by resorting to magic, which she doesn’t know Emma has. She might therefore strongly object to the Charmings’ claim to custody. The promo for 2×10 shows Regina yelling at the Charmings “you're not going to take my son!” and then using magic to violently blow Emma backwards. I'd say the old, rage-fuled Regina could be rearing her head because of her mother's arrival and also because of her perception that the Charmings are excluding Regina from Henry's life (however true or not).

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 5:07 am in reply to: Who will teach magic to Emma ? #163727
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    I have a feeling that as true love incarnate, Emma’s magic doesn’t jive with dark magic, but surpasses it. Rumple said to his son that fairy dust didn’t mix with what he is, and Emma’s magic may not either. I think whoever ends up teaching Emma will practice good magic, like a fairy or a good wizard whom we’ve yet to meet. Plus, Jennifer Morrison gave the following explanation about Emma’s magic in relation to Mr. Gold:

    WHAT WAS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT EMMA/MR. GOLD CONVO?
    Having become aware that Rumplestiltskin knew from before her birth that she was the savior, Emma upon returning to Storybrooke confronted Mr. Gold about keeping secrets – only to realize that she has a surprise to share with him. “It’s a game of chess for her, because if she has the power to not have her heart ripped out by Cora, that makes her pretty powerful,” says Jennifer Morrison. “She doesn’t understand that power, though, and she doesn’t know the rules, but she doesn’t want to ask him for help, so she is in a delicate way trying to figure out how powerful she is in relation to him.” http://tvline.com/2012/12/02/once-upon-a-time-midseason-finale-recap-burning-questions/2/

    Sounds like Emma doesn’t really trust Mr. Gold to teach her. She was simply sizing him up and seeking an answer to whether he designed her to have magic. Mr. Gold said back in S1 that Emma was more powerful than she realized. I think she’s just starting to understand how powerful, but she doesn’t want Gold’s help.

    @bec wrote:

    I wonder if Emma using magic will come at a price though..? I wonder if she’ll take the chance that something could happen to Henry.

    I have a feeling that it’s predominately dark magic which always comes with a price. When Emma repelled Cora with magic, it didn’t seem like Emma paid a price. Plus, I don’t think Emma simply has magic. I think Emma is magic. She is the living, breathing personification of the purest, most powerful form of magic: true love. True love doesn’t come with a price, but it does break curses and dark magic. So, since Emma is magic, she doesn’t wield it but simply generates it, bypassing any “cost” that might come when someone like Regina tries to use it.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 4:54 am in reply to: LOCATION OF CORA’S HEART!? #163725
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    @Phee wrote:

    @Gaultheria wrote:

    Oh, I don’t think Aurora’s returned heart was really Cora’s or anyone else’s.

    When you mentioned it in your previous post, I actually wondered if you might be onto something. What reason would Cora have for taking Aurora’s heart with her to SB? Unless she could still use it to spy on them across realms, I suppose. I could see Cora wanting to take her own heart with her to SB though. Not knowing if she’d ever be back in FTL again, why would she leave her heart there completely unguarded?

    But then where would Aurora’s heart be–still in Cora’s travel-kit vault? To me, it seems like Mulan simply put Aurora’s heart back into Aurora, as a nice way to close that story and move on.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 5, 2012 at 4:22 am in reply to: Episode title #163719
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    ^


    Thanks! As soon as I heard what to expect for King George’s arch, I put it together with Barrett’s arrival in SB, and it just seemed to fit. Of course, I could be off the mark. Speaking of Barrett, here is a new spoiler about his character:

    Question: Any fresh intel on who Ethan Embry is playing on Once Upon a Time? —Jenny
    Ausiello: Jennifer Morrison knows about as much as the rest of us — which isn’t much. “[All we] know is he’s an outsider, he is a stranger and he is not a fairytale character,” she says, before quickly adding, “at least he’s not someone anyone recognizes from fairytale land.”

    The fact that Jennifer calls Ethan’s character “an outsider” confirms that the title at least partially refers to Barrett (could also refer to Belle). Perhaps Barrett is from our world but has travelled to other lands. It would explain why he’s unrecognizable but why he could be familiar with magic. I’ll stand by my theory about Barrett being an outside state official who comes to hear Decker stand trial for Gus’ murder, but I’ll add that perhaps Barrett’s arrival in town has a dual purpose. Maybe he also somehow tracks supernatural occurrences out of interest, and perhaps SB came on the grid when the curse was broken. It has a way of drawing people connected to fairytales.

    The casting call for Barrett was:

    “A major recurring guest star role with an option for next season is being cast. A character named Barrett. He’s in his 30s, kind and smart, but also has a very dark side and has beliefs and a way of life that he will fight fiercely to defend.”

    So, Perhaps Barrett’s “dark side” is someone who is obsessed with magic. Just a thought.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 4, 2012 at 7:23 pm in reply to: LOCATION OF CORA’S HEART!? #163664
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    @Hooks Spyglass wrote:

    2 things.
    1 why does everybdy believe her???? shes a known liar.
    2 rumple taught her magic and she “won” maybe the prize she won wasnt baby Regina but her heart.
    i doubt its in anybody eles.

    1) Hook attempted to remove Cora’s heart with his enchanted hook, but couldn’t, because there was no heart in Cora’s rib cage. So, Cora wasn’t just fibbing since her heart was not physically inside of her.
    2) I’m pretty sure keeping baby Regina was Cora’s “prize.” Cora said in 1×18 that Regina’s life was hers, because of all the deals she’d made. Sounds like the deal Cora made was the classic deal the miller’s daughter made to keep her first-born by guessing Rumple’s name.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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