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@RumplesGirl wrote:

I posted this hair-brained theory of mine elsewhere, but it’s relevant here. What if instead of posing as Snow White, Cora stealthily arrives in SB, kidnaps Archie, poses as the town shrink, and counsels the people of SB to turn against each other, maybe even pushing Regina off the no-magic bandwagon.

I like this Slurpeez. But why would Cora want Regina using magic? If she really is knowledgeable about what’s been going on in EF since she was pushed into the mirror and before the curse, she should know how powerful Regina is with magic. If she teams up with Rumple, it would surely mean the end of Cora. Unless she honestly thinks she can manipulate Regina to her side….

Since not using magic means Regina is trying to reform, using magic would be a way to get Regina to chose power again. Misery loves company, and Cora probably is delighted that Regina became the dark, powerful queen she always wanted her daughter to become; she just doesn’t like that Rumple used Regina to banish her to Wonderland or to unleash the dark curse. Cora likely doesn’t want her daughter to give up on magic or to be redeemed to her innocent self. Cora likely wants to mold Regina even further in her own image and to be rid of Rumpel’s influence forever. A powerful Regina might mean double trouble for Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin if Cora could convince her daughter to make peace with her. I don’t think Cora will be very successful in winning over Regina’s favor, but I think that Regina could be pushed over the edge into using magic again, if only to protect Henry from Cora. I just think Regina’s redemption could be thwarted by Cora’s arrival in some way, perhaps in a scheme involving Archie.

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@scaredcrow65 wrote:

I really like this theory, but isn’t the cloak that Bae usually wears green?

The cape that Smee is holding, while faded in color, closely resembles the cape Baelfire was wearing when he disappeared. You might expect a 250-year-old cape to have aged and even faded from green to yellow. It also appears to be the exact cape Henry is wearing in this promotional photo, suggesting that Baelfire is actually Neal, Henry’s dad. If Baelfire is indeed Peter Pan, then perhaps Captain Hook captured Baelfire in Neverland. Though Baelfire escaped to our world, he left his cape behind. Now, Captain Hook could use the cape to torment Rumplestiltskin with the horrible idea that Baelfire is long dead.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@AntBee wrote:

@Phee wrote:

@slurpeez108 wrote:

The title “The Cricket Game” makes me think either someone evil is playing games by using Archie or that Archie has gone rogue and is playing mind games since he’s a shrink.

They did hint a while back that someone we thought was trustworthy might surprise us, didn’t they? If you can’t trust the conscience, who can you trust? If he does get himself in the middle of some scheme where he’s manipulating people’s minds, I’d guess that he starts out with good intentions, to try and make people see things from an alternate point of view, and it goes wrong.

Interesting points, slurpeez and Phee. While I think he’s grown as the role of the conscience this year by stepping in to help out Regina and demanding that Dr. Whale leave his office immediately, he still did some shady things last year that I’m not sure he’s atoned for. He was willing to let Geppetto send out baby Emma without both of her parents just because Geppetto brought up the fact that Jiminy helped kill Geppetto’s parents and helped make Henry look crazy in Emma’s eyes, but later on in the season thought it was okay for Henry to be left in Regina’s care.

So I could definitely see him starting out with good intentions doing something but having it backfire on him. I couldn’t really seeing him go rogue, at least at this point, but I could definitely see him starting something that someone comes along and tries to take advantage of, most likely Cora.

I didn’t watch the sneak peeks for Into the Deep, but I read that apparently Cora does something to Aurora while she’s under, so if that turns out to be true, maybe Archie hypnotizes Regina, and Cora attacks Regina while she’s under hypnosis.

I posted this hair-brained theory of mine elsewhere, but it’s relevant here. What if instead of posing as Snow White, Cora stealthily arrives in SB, kidnaps Archie, poses as the town shrink, and counsels the people of SB to turn against each other, maybe even pushing Regina off the no-magic bandwagon.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I posted this theory elsewhere, but it’s based on the promo for 2×9. Maybe Regina hires Captain Hook as a mercenary pirate to kill Cora. Being a persuasive villain, Cora, however, convinces Hook to side with her instead, promising him the information he desires: how to kill the dark one. Then Cora fakes her own death using magic, and Regina sees what looks like her mother’s body and tells Rumplestiltskin that Cora is dead.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@AntBee wrote:

I agree though that we weren’t shown Hook taking it because of time constraints and to maximize the suspense of what it was. (I also thought he had the bean that the Giant had around his neck after I convinced myself that they’d never have Hook cross that line and really take Aurora’s heart out. Glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that’s what Hook had if it wasn’t a heart.) Also K&H confirmed it in their podcast that it was indeed Aurora’s heart and that Hook was the one that removed it.

The question I would have is, ‘how did he (Hook) learn to do that?’ Because we’ve only seen very specific people do that. We’ve only seen The Queen, Cora and Rumple. I would say watch episode 9.”
— Eddy Kitsis (Regarding how Hook got Aurora’s heart during the ‘Into the Deep’ podcast)

What Edward Kitsis said left me questioning who removed Aurora’s heart. Eddy danced around the question of how Hook came by the heart and said that we’ve only seen certain people perform heart removal. Could Hook really have learned magic? I read another theory that it wasn’t Hook who removed the heart at all; it was Maleficent who took out Aurora’s heart when she became cursed, and Hook simply acquired the heart later either through a trade, by force, or by happenstance.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@Midnight Dreary wrote:

^But Mr. Gold did say that he won the battle against Cora. So, maybe they did meet face to face.

True, but I suppose Gold could be speaking proverbially. If Cora is the miller’s daughter from the original Rumpelstiltskin fairytale, then Cora thought she got the better of Rumple by keeping baby Regina. However, the fact that Rumple eventually persuaded that said grown child to push her mother through the mirror made Mr. Gold think he’d won the metaphorical battle in the end. Boy, did Cora surprise him, especially if she makes it to SB.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@medchen wrote:

Regina knew who the Queen of hearts was in ‘Hat trick’ Jefferson asks her if she knows her and she says, better than most. So if it’s her mother, she can’t think she is dead at that time. Then that battle they refer too must happen later. Unless the veiled Queen is someone else entirely.

Excellent point. I suppose any confrontation would take place after the events of Hat Trick but before the curse. There could be enough time, perhaps months to a year. Yet, maybe there never was a direct conflict between Rumpel and Cora after all. All Rumpel said is that Regina reported that she saw Cora’s body. Also, based on the promo for 2×9, maybe Regina hired Captain Hook as a mercenary pirate to kill Cora. Being a persuasive villain, Cora, however, convinced Hook to side with her instead, promising the information he needed: how to kill the dark one. Then Cora faked her own death using magic, and Regina saw what looked like her mother’s body and told Rumpel that Cora was dead.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@ceege wrote:

Didn’t Regina also say “I saw her body”? So both of them assume Cora is dead. If they battled in Wonderland, why would Rumple bring her body back? Unless he took Regina with him to go battle Cora. I don’t recall Hat Trick well, but was Regina aware of the Queen of Hearts? If so, then we can’t have both Cora as the QofH AND assumed to be dead by Regina at the time of that episode. Since Page is about the same age in Storybrook as in the events of Hat trick, the episode happened soon before the curse, and does not leave enough time for a battle to the death.

I was intrigued by Regina’s comment, which heavily suggested a battle happened sometime after Rumplesitlskin prompted Regina to push her mother through the looking glass. Perhaps Cora somehow found a way back from Wonderland to pre-curse EF, where there was a show-down between her, Rumple, and Regina. This battle might have happened before the events of Hat Trick, well before the dark curse was unleashed.

Also, we don’t yet know how QoH came to have Henry Sr, so maybe Cora kidnapped him. There may have been a showdown in which Cora appeared dead, leading Rumpel and Regina to think Cora had died.

Sarah-Daye Hand wrote: Unless thats why she covers her face up? Maybe no one knows that the queen is Cora. And when they thought she was dead she became the queen?

If Cora faked her own death, she may have then disguised herself as the Queen of Hearts, all the while keeping her face hidden. So that when Regina came to Wonderland searching for her father, she might have thought her mother already dead.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@Phee wrote:

I do agree that it’d be perfect symmetry for them to have Snow’s kiss wake him, but I still think the pic in the street doesn’t jive with that happening. For me, that pic looks like it was the whole bunch of them gathered wherever the portal was, and this is their triumphant return to town. It doesn’t seem like they made a pit stop somewhere to wake Charming up on the way, and then all went back to walking down the main street. Maybe I’m reading the photo wrong though, time will tell. Henry’s dressed the same in that pic as he is in the promo when he’s at the well with Regina and Rumple, so the scene in the street must come directly after that happens.

I read it differently, but I could be wrong, too. Henry could be wearing the same outfit in the pic as in the promo because immediately after Emma and Snow arrive through the portal, Henry greets them and tells Snow where Charming is sleeping. Without having time to change clothes, Henry, Emma, and Snow all go to Mr. Gold’s shop where Snow kisses Charming awake. Voilà, the happy family is reunited and they all parade arm in arm down main street, where they’re joined by their close friends the dwarves, Ruby, and Granny.

I could see Henry becoming so worried about Charming not waking up that he’ll kiss him in the hope it’ll work like when Emma woke him. They’ve established that true love’s kiss can be between family, so I could buy it if they did that again, with Henry paying it forward.

Yeah, that is a definite possibility and would be cute to see. I just think the writers will keep the iconic true-love’s-kiss scene between Snow and Charming since they’ve been keeping the couple apart all of S2.

The interview bits do make it sound as though everyone is back. Whenever I thought of the imposter theory, I figured it wouldn’t be that long between the impostors showing up and then the real Snow and Emma following though, so I’d imagined there’d be two portal arrivals only a couple of eps apart, and depending on when the interviews were done, that could still potentially fit.

The article was published on Nov. 25, but the interview seems to be about events that happen in 2×9 or 2×10, based on the BTS pictures of Jennifer and Ginny on the SB set. I understand what you mean about there possibly being 2 separate realm-jumping events, I just think Emma and Snow make it to SB before Hook and Cora. The spoiler pictures of Hook with Smee in SB are from 2×11 or 2×12. I read a theory (sorry, can't find it now) in which Emma and Snow come via the well-portal whereas Killian and Cora arrive via Hook's ship. There were also BTS shots of Cora and Hook on a ship, so it could well be the case. Perhaps the ship pulls into SB's port after they are blocked by Gold and Regina from using the well as a portal.

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