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  • November 22, 2012 at 10:51 am in reply to: More sneak peeks!!!! #161655
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    EvilQueen wrote: Hook confirmed that he was acting against Cora, or supposedly so – they agreed that he stole the protection spell from her as she was originally to accompany him on the bean stalk.

    Phee wrote: That sorta surprised me. I was sure that she’d never intended to go up the beanstalk herself. Mad props to Hook for betraying her.

    I am so proud of Hook for his bravado. And he chose Emma over Cora! *Excuse me while I gush all over SwanHook* It gives me real hope that Hook could forgive Emma’s betrayal and pledge his allegiance to helping her get home first.

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    You gonna kill me now? Go ahead. Try”

    Hook seems overly confident considering that Cora can easily kill him or rip his heart out. Maybe living in Nerverland for so long has made him immortal…? I think it pretty obvious that Hook doesn’t really like Cora, especially compared to the way he behaved with Emma and Snow. But I wonder why he didn’t try to defend himself and deny that he chose Emma, because the last thing he needs is to get on her bad side.

    Hook does come across as having too much confidence for his own good. While I doubt he’s become immortal, he does seem to have a trick up his sleeve. Maybe he knows Cora won’t kill him because only he knows how to kill Rumplestiltskin, a common enemy. Cora may want revenge against Rumpel for convincing Regina to push her through the looking glass and conning Regina into casting the dark curse on his behalf. Cora and Rumpel seem to have a feud that goes back to when Cora guessed Rumpel’s name and kept baby Regina from him. When Rumpel thought he’d finally won by making Regina his apprentice and getting rid of Cora, she probably promised herself that she’d get the last laugh in the end.

    RumplesGirl wrote: The many worlds comment is what sticks out most to me. If she’s not the Queen of Hearts then…I don’t know WHO is. HOW does she know about SB, though?? I didn’t think anyone did apart from Rumple, BF (maybe), and Regina.

    The reason Cora knows about SB is because Emma naively told her the name of the town in their first encounter in present-day EF in the prison. Also, if Cora is the QoH (which is very likely) then she knew all about other worlds from Jefferson and tried to get him to make another magical hat, which is how he went mad in the first place. Finally, I bet Cora’s power preserved the safe haven from the dark curse, and she probably knew that the curse transported most everyone out of the EF from talking to other survivors who were left behind. Because Regina told the entire kingdom on Snow and Charming’s wedding day that she’d unleash a curse so horrible it’s take them to a place without happy endings, the ones who were left must still have heard that news. When Emma was in the prison in the remanent of the EF that survived, Cora probably put the two together and figured that SB is where Snow and everyone else must have been transported by the curse.

    @steliokontos1 wrote:

    See and that’s why I made a “There’s Something off with Mulan” thread not sure what but sometimes some things with her make me suspicious. As far as with Hook I think he has to have some way to equalize the field against magical enemies like Cora & Rumple that we haven’t seen yet. I love Hook as an anti hero I really want to see him do something important to get Emma & Snow home.

    I didn’t take Mulan’s silence about the sleeping curse to be a sign of her guilt. I read it as her realizing the connection between Henry, Aurora, and Snow that shed hadn’t before understood. It was like the wheels were turning in her head as she realized how serious the consequences of the sleeping curse were. Whereas before Mulan thought Aurora was a bit of a pansy, she now has more respect for the amount of suffering Aurora has been through.

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 22, 2012 at 10:19 am in reply to: Cast and Producers’ Interviews #161654
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    Josh Dallas previews David in danger on ‘Once Upon A Time’

    Last we left Storybrooke, Henry (Jared Gilmore) was having nightmares in which he found himself in a fire-filled room. Out in the now desolate fairytale land, Aurora (Sarah Bolger) was having the same dreams. Finally, they spotted each other, and Henry told her not to be afraid. But his words were not really all that reassuring, considering he still awoke with a very real burn on his arm. Unlike regular dream worlds, the things encountered in this one could hurt you—could possibly even kill you—so Regina (Lana Parrilla) went to Gold (Robert Carlyle) for help. The result may not prove to be enough, though, as in the next all-new episode “Into the Deep,” Regina and Gold must put David’s (Josh Dallas) life in jeopardy in an attempt to protect Henry from further danger and put him in contact with Mary Margaret (Ginnifer Goodwin) across the lands.

    “It’s a huge danger. He could go in and never come back,” Dallas stressed when LA TV Insider Examiner visited the Vancouver set of Once Upon A Time* earlier this month.

    “But to talk about true love! He just wanted to see her just one more time, whether that meant him staying in there forever or getting out. He knew he’d have that connection so it’s a huge sacrifice. Of course, he’s not thinking of it that way—he’s not thinking of it as a sacrifice—he’s just thinking of ‘I want to see my wife’.”

    Though Henry has been acting as a sort-of “runner” between Storybrooke and the fairytale land, communicating what’s been going on in each back and forth, David, Regina, and Gold work together and come to the agreement that David should go into the world instead. This requires “putting him under,” which is where the aforementioned danger comes in.

    “He’ll get them back somehow. That’s the idea, and he’s so confident; he’s so confident about the fact that she’s in there, and he’ll find a way. And she’s so competent and so smart, and he knows that, and so he’s willing to just get in there and see her one more time,” Dallas said.

    “He’s definitely not a reluctant leader; he’s not a reluctant hero. That’s just the man he is; he has it inside of him, and he’s a natural leader. I don’t think he’ll ever force it on people—he asks; he says ‘I will be your leader for as long as you want me to. Help me save my family, and I will help get your family back.’ So I think he’s never going to be overbearing about it, but it’s just where he naturally falls.”

    Of course, there is additional danger in the fact that Cora (Barbara Hershey) is still roaming around with his wife in fairytale land, and there is really nothing David can do about that. She really is the villain of the moment, with David finding a lot of common ground with both Regina and Gold.

    As Dallas put it, David and Gold’s relationship of late has turned into “mutual understanding and a mutual respect. That started to happen for David back in the finale of season one when they had the swordfight in the forest in fairytale land, and David said ‘Did you love someone once?’ And [Rumple] goes ‘Yeah, and she died.’ And in that moment, he’s sort of connected to him, and he gets it; he sees he’s human and that he does have a soul and he does have a heart—or he did anyway. And then Gold asks for dating advice, you know, so I think this kind of bromance between them is cool, and I hope we explore that a lot more.”

    When it comes to Cora, all Dallas would shake his head and say was that she is a “dangerous, dangerous character.”

    “This is a moment for David to have a little bit of redemption and to be able to fix the wrongs he did in season one,” Dallas considered.

    “He’s thrown obstacles, but it’s not in Charming’s—David’s—nature to be defeated, so he’s always going to push forward…No one can go up against Cora alone. That’s always what the best leaders do: they always hire the best people.”

    And in this case, David is relying on a little bit of help from some who have worked against him in the past, but it’s a whole new challenge now.

    “Charming, Gold, Snow, Emma– these are the characters that are the basis of the whole thing, so they’ve either got to stick together or they’re all f***ed,” he laughed.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/josh-dallas-previews-david-danger-on-once-upon-a-time

    Jennifer Morrison Talks About Getting Back to Storybrooke on Once Upon a Time – Exclusive

    A new episode of Once Upon a Time is right around the corner (Nov. 25) and we can’t wait to find out more about the separation between Storybrooke and Fairytale Land. Wetpaint Entertainment caught up with Jennifer Morrison (Emma Swan) at Rolling Stone’s official AMA after-party earlier this week in Hollywood to discuss what’s coming up on the show.

    Wetpaint Entertainment: What’s in store for you character on Once Upon a Time the rest of the season?
    Jennifer Morrison: I don’t know for the whole rest of the season…I know for the next little bit. We’re definitely struggling to get back from Fairytale Land obviously. I don’t want to be separated from Henry obviously and so we are up against all sorts of new villains and new adventures in a strange land and dealing with Captain Hook and dealing with Cora and also sort of seeing the mother/daughter relationship develop a little bit more between Mary Margaret and Emma and you know really just seeing Emma’s desperation to get back to her son.

    There’s a boy that Aurora met in a dream recently. Anything that you can tell us about that?
    All I can say is that we’re going to start seeing how to communicate between lands.

    What has your favorite scene in Once Upon a Time that you’ve starred in so far?
    That’s really tough to say. We’re really lucky. The writers are so great. We get to do lots of scenes that we love. I think that Captain Hook and I have had some really fun sort of different stuff this season, which has been nice. Every time I work with Ginny Goodwin, we just have such a great time. I get to work with such a good friend so it’s kind of amazing.

    It seems like a really fun show to be a part of.
    Yeah. It really is a special place to work.
    http://www.wetpaint.com/once-upon-a-time/articles/jennifer-morrison-talks-about-getting-back-to-storybrooke-on-once-upon-a-time-exclusive

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 22, 2012 at 9:53 am in reply to: Sneek peek 1 #161652
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    @obisgirl wrote:

    I agree with you all about Charmings plan. When he said Snow would kiss him, but that would only be in the Netherworld and I don’t think it would translate to him waking up in our world. I fear that was more of David talking than Charming.

    Yeah, maybe not the best plan ever. Charming is trying to protect Henry, but really, what’s the point of going under the sleeping curse himself? Mr. Gold said in 2×7 he couldn’t prevent Henry’s soul from traveling to the netherworld. What’s to keep Henry’s soul from going back to that inferno anyway just because Charming goes there, too? I suppose if Charming is there to keep Henry safe, Henry could in turn retrieve a message from Snow and relay it back to Mr. Gold and Regina. I’m not that clear on what happens if Snow kisses Charming in the netherworld though. Would their souls kissing be enough to wake his body from sleep in SB? It would be interesting to see that happen, but I’m inclined to think that Snow White must be physically present to kiss Charming in bodily form. Of course, this is just my conjecture. We’ll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

    @Midnight Dreary wrote:

    I actually do think Rumpel is a little afraid of Cora. He knows what she’s capable of, and the fact that she’s so hell bent on coming to Storybrooke is a bad sign. So, I don’t think he’s simply afraid of Cora changing the rules of the game. There are people that he loves that could be at risk. For all he knows, Cora could hurt Belle or slow down his search for Baelfire.

    Agreed. While we don’t yet know exactly what happened between Cora and Rumplestiltskin in the past, it’s safe to assume Cora learned her powers form Rumpel and that she’s the miller’s daughter who kept her firstborn child from him (aka Regina). He made an enemy of Cora for life when he convinced that said grown child to push her own mother through the looking glass into Wonderland. Of course, Mr. Gold knows how powerful a foe Cora is, and he probably recognizes that she could be the one with enough power to pose a real threat even to him and his loved ones. Perhaps he figured out that it was Cora’s powerful magic which preserved the “safe haven” in present-day EF and that she’s powerful enough to combat the effects of even the dark curse.

    @beautyistruth wrote:

    Perhaps he can only heal non-magical wounds such as sword wounds, Bae’s scraped knee, and Whale’s ripped off arm?

    Maybe, but that’s pretty lame of Mr. Gold if he can’t heal magically-inflicted wounds with magic. Also, it didn’t seem like Henry’s burn was caused so much by magic as it was an open flame in the inferno? Are they magical flames or “normal” flames down there?

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 22, 2012 at 12:25 am in reply to: New Role Being Cast #161635
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    ]
    Ok, so Ethan Embry has been cast as Barrett. Who is he and what connection does he have with Mr. Gold, Regina, and Cora?

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 21, 2012 at 10:15 pm in reply to: More sneak peeks!!!! #161627
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    Yes! Now I can truly give thanks on Thanksgiving. 🙂
    Youtube versions are up:
    Clip 1 – Regina, Mr. Gold, and Prince Charming are all concerned about Henry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6RphczxGUg&feature=player_embedded
    Clip 2 – Cora confronts Hook about his betrayal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMNR2x6fQLY&feature=player_embedded
    Clip 3 – Aurora confirms to Emma and Snow that Henry is the boy in her dream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFT-YkGoqnE&feature=player_embedded
    Clip 4 – Cora hold Aurora captive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcDcaExrU0&feature=player_embedded

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm in reply to: Sneek peek 1 #161600
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    Firstly, thanks so much for the link! I’ve been waiting what seems ages for a glimpse. Awesome clip, too! 🙂 Can’t Mr. Gold just heal Henry’s burns with magic? If he could successfully reattach Victor’s arm, a little burn shouldn’t be too hard. Also, if Prince Charming does indeed go under a sleeping curse, I think we can safely rule out the “impostor theory” once and for all since legit Snow would have to be back really soon to kiss Charming and release him from his slumber. Prince Charming can’t be in a comma for the rest of season 2. I think that the reunion pictures of the Charming family from episode 9 are for real then.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 21, 2012 at 4:51 pm in reply to: Gold’s ulterior motive #161548
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    @EvilQueen wrote:

    slurpeez108, I agree that Henry is smart and suffered the effects of the curse probably more than anyone else but that doesn’t mean that he believes that ALL magic is bad. What about the fairies? Fairy dust? Portals? If he really didn’t want to use any magic, he wouldn’t accept Rumple’s gift. In the end, he is just a child and even though mature for his age, he’s still young and naive in his own way. He has his dreams of happy ending for his family and desperate people take desperate measures, especially if they are smart kids… Remember, it was Regina’s choice not to use magic, not Henry’s wish (and before you say anything – yes, he didn’t want him being kept in the house by magic or having friends MADE like him because of magic. The point of the whole thing wasn’t not to use magic at all but that magic cannot control feelings and it’s the real actions that do).

    I never claimed that Henry believes all magic is bad. He has shown great enthusiasm whenever the Blue Fairy has talked about magic being in SB and the discovery of magical diamonds in the mines. I think he’s very curious about it. However, Henry knows the damaging effects of dark magic, so I believe he’d be against using dark magic, like the kind his mother and Mr. Gold use. He knows better than to make deals with Mr. Gold, as he said in season one to Emma not to trust Gold. The only reason he took the vial from Gold is because he has no better option at this point: his life is at risk every time he goes to sleep. Henry doesn’t want to use magic, and I think he firmly doesn’t want to turn bad like Regina. He’s read her backstory in his book. He knows where using dark magic can lead. He’s already been the victim of the sleeping curse and seen what the dark curse did to the people of SB.

    As for Mr Gold – nah, no way this was because of Bae. If it was, he would’ve been kind to Henry before as well, not just in this particular moment (unless he found out about Neal??? 😈 ).

    Again, I never claimed that Mr. Gold wants to help Henry because he thinks Neal is Baelfire. Mr. Gold has no real clue what happened to Bae except that he came to a land without magic. All I said is that Henry reminds Mr. Gold of his lost son, Baelfire, who was around Henry’s age when he went through the portal. Mr. Gold’s son paid the price for Rumpel’s use of dark magic, and Mr. Gold said in the season 1 finale that Henry shouldn’t have the pay the price for Regina’s use of dark magic. He actually cares about Henry.

    If you listen to what he’s actually saying while giving the gift to Henry:

    Once one can control something, one no longer need fearing

    and that was while he was staring at REGINA. I believe he wanted to make a point that he knows of Regina weakness that is Henry and that he can control her because of it. He didn’t have to help the kid at all but he did because he wanted to show his superiority and power over Regina. There could’ve even been a sense of threat that if Regina was to do him wrong, he could take the necklace away/do something bad to Henry because the boy is now at his mercy.

    I agree that Mr. Gold didn’t have to help Henry at all. However, he did. I don’t think this is just another power play with Regina. It’s clear that she’s irresponsible when it comes to using magic; she already caused Henry a lifetime of pain. Gold did direct the point about control to Regina. Yet, if his intention was just to get one up on Regina, he’d have made some high-stake deal with her in exchange for the locket (like another “please clause”). Regina already knows Rumpel conned her into enacting the dark curse for his own benefit. He doesn’t need to make the same point over again.

    Another part of me thinks that he also did that because he knows there is someone in FTL (Cora?) that wants to come to the real world and perhaps Gold needs that person and Henry would help him do just that. He didn’t seem surprised with the nightmares which makes me believe this is a part of his plan.

    Mr. Gold doesn’t yet know Cora is trying to get the SB. When he does find out, he’s going to try everything he can to keep her out. He’s the one who tricked Regina into getting rid of Cora through the looking glass in the first place. Mr. Gold hates Cora for keeping Regina (Cora is the miller’s daughter from the original Rumpel fairytale) No way would Rumpel want Cora in SB! The episode description for 2×8 reveals he teams up with Regina to thwart Cora's arrival in town.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 21, 2012 at 2:49 pm in reply to: Who might be returning? #161530
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    @Naomi wrote:

    With Gerhardt AND Philip…I wonder if the theme of this episode will have something to do with “lost souls”?

    I know dead is dead…technically. But technically Philip only had his soul sucked out and hasn’t truly died, right? Maybe there’s a spirit land or a place with lost souls, between life and death, like a purgatory…and in that realm Gerhardt meets Philip and helps him return back to the land of the living?

    Adam and Eddy strongly hinted that we didn’t see Philip actually die – his soul was just sucked out by the wraith. Also, yes, there is a spirit land, and we’ve already seen it feature when Aurora and Henry sleep. It’s not just a dreamland, since Rumple called it a “netherworld” between life and death where the soul travels as a consequence of the sleeping curse. That’s why both Henry and Aurora are experiences the side-effects even after having been awakened. I think it’s very possible that’s where Philip’s soul is, along with the countless souls the wraith sucked up.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 21, 2012 at 2:39 pm in reply to: Cast and Producers’ Interviews #161529
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    Interview for TV.com with Jennifer Morrison

    Earlier this week I was lucky enough to talk to Jennifer Morrison, who plays Emma Swan, the Sheriff of Storybrooke and long-lost daughter of Snow White, in everyone’s favorite fairy-tale drama thriller, Once Upon A Time. She was so incredibly lovely and insightful and thoughtful over the phone, I’m still shaking guys I’M STILL SHAKING. She also dropped a couple hints that I THINK might be SPOILERS?! Let’s read and discuss!

    Does Emma have a jail tatto?
    (Laughs) JAIL TATTOOS? No she has a tattoo, but that tattoo she’s had since she was probably 14. I think you’ve seen glimpses of it, it’s on her left wrist, it’s a flower on her left wrist. It hasn’t been featured in any situation yet, you’ll see it more in Episode 6. Just kind of by circumstances, but yeah, it’s definitely a youthful decision on her part but ends up being meaningful in the long run.

    Is Emma going to accept that Snow White is her mom, or is that something she struggles with?
    I think it’s something she’ll probably struggle with for the rest of her life on some levels. I feel like the writers have done a really great job of writing this reunion and the aftermath of it in a way that’s very realistic. Anyone who’s in a situation where all they’ve known for 28 years is that they were given up and they were abandoned, and is suddenly faced with meeting the people who gave them up and abandoned them—even if they had good reason for it—there’s still complicated emotions to work through in terms of accepting that and understanding that perspective. And so obviously Emma is not very advanced emotionally, because she’s someone who, the only way they survive is to shut down and put up a thick wall of armor to be able to not get hurt over and over again… so her first reaction to something is to not deal with it, to shut down, and her next reaction is to make a joke out of it, and her third reaction is to start to deal with the fact there might be emotions going on and start trying to figure out how to accept them. So she’s definitely got a process that she has to go through to even get to a place where she can start to deal with emotions. So that’s going to complicate the way that reunion goes down—it’s not going to just be happy-go-lucky, there’s a lot to work out.

    You obviously have your emotional hands full, but is there a chance Emma’s getting a love interest this season?
    Yeah, I mean that’s something I really want to have happen this season for sure. Season 1 for Emma was really about falling in love with Henry and Season 2 is now her reconciling with her parents in some way and opening herself to the possibility of romantic love. That’s a whole new level of adventure for her of course. I feel like it makes sense, in real life we have to deal with our own issues of childhood or our parents and when we put those things in perspective that’s when we become capable of opening ourselves to healthy relationships in our own lives. So I think it makes sense, especially since we’re dealing with fairy-tale-themed situations that they would sort of have those two things coinciding in Emma’s life.

    So is Jared Gilmore growing right before your eyes right now?
    Yeah! We’re always like, “How tall is he going to be today?” but it’s working. He definitely has grown a bit but he still has that boyish term. I think what’s so great about him in that role is that he’s a real kid. In between he wants to play video games and run around with his sister and have fun back home… I think there’s a real kid element in him that comes through in that character and really serves the storytelling. You don’t feel like you’re watching like, you know, the Olivier of children where he’s like “Iiii’m a great ACTOR!”… you have those kids sometimes who are such actors at that age they don’t seem like kids, and he’s a nice balance of both, so despite the growing his youthful spirit is shining through.

    What are the pros and cons of green screen?
    (Groans) Well, I have found the green screen gives me nightmares but only because that color does not go well with my personality. That color is highly anxious for me, for some reason. But it gives us the capacity to do some VERY cool things. It’s a Catch-22 with that, because as much as you can get to hour twelve, and your eyes are bugging out of your head and you don’t know what to do with yourself because you’ve been staring at a green, bright green, fluorescent green room for twelve hours, at the end of the day ON SET they’ve already built the place and overlayed it with what you’re shooting. So you have the immediate gratification of seeing what it’s like. It’s AMAZING to be able to see what they’re capable of. I always say we could never shoot this show without green tape, because we reconstruct all the geography on this green room with green tape, and that’s how you know where a wall is or where a pillar is or a window is or a piece of furniture or whatever. I was like, “How would we ever make this show without green tape?” Really, green tape is what holds Once Upon a Time together. It’s definitely an adventure in there but I think a well-worth-it adventure. We’re in a time now where technology is such that we can create anything, and that’s what’s new about television and film these days. These kind of fantasy stories could never have been told in this way 20 years ago. What’s new is we can put fantasy onscreen and make it look real. http://www.tv.com/news/once-upon-a-time-q-and-a-jennifer-morrison-drops-a-few-hints-about-season-2-29691/

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    November 21, 2012 at 2:20 pm in reply to: Major Cliffhanger coming! #161526
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    @RumplesGirl wrote:

    I do hope Archie is around more. I really like him.
    I wonder if August is coming back for these final two episodes….

    Sadly, I didn’t see Eion’s name listed among the guest stars in the press releases for either episodes 2×8 or 2×9.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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