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ParticipantSurayya wrote: I loved Rumple realising he had sunk himself (for a change!)- I did feel maybe Rumple had lost a little of his ‘Stiltskin’ when he 1st introduced himself to Regina, but he was almost back to super Imp by the end.
😆 Super Imp! Looks like Rumpel’s magic finally got the better of him. He paid by being stuck in SB.
TheGoldenKey wrote: Love watching Mr. Gold slowly bringing in his Rumple mannerisms.
Yes, Robert Carlyle is an artistic genius! His scenes are usually my favorite part of any episode he’s in.
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Participantsteliokontos1 wrote: I hope that she does redeem herself though and that it’s not a play the thing that keeps me reserved is that she did keep the book instead of destroying it.
Yes, that book is going to spell trouble in the future, pun intended. 😉
TheGoldenKey wrote: Her book of magic did have a red heart in the centre (confirming that Cora is the QofH?)
I think Cora is the QoH. Cora comes from the French word coeur meaning “heart.” Also, she went through the mirror, which is a clear and indisputable reference to the book Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll, part of the Alice in Wonderland saga. Also, right before Regina pushed Cora through the portal, Cora said, “Let everyone know where the new power lies, and you’ll hold the hearts of the people in your hands.” Let’s just say, Cora wasn’t just speaking about proverbial hearts. The QoH had a vault of actual hearts, which we later saw Regina imitating in the Enchanted Forest and SB. We also saw Cora crush Daniel’s heart, the same way Regina crushed Graham’s. 😥
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ParticipantFaux Pax wrote: Rumple is extremely family oriented, and Regina has been little but a pawn to him. I don’t see how they could make her his daughter without making his actions in regard to her over the last season completely out of character.
True, Rumpel is very protective over Baelfire and went to such great lengths to design a dark curse and manipulate events, just to come to this world. Despite being the Dark One, I always thought he was a loving dad. It would be horrible if he used one child (Regina) to retrieve another (Baelfire). Regina is probably just the baby of the miller’s daughter, who got away from Rumpel.
Rumple mentions that he heald Regina when she was a baby, and Henry Sr. says that Cora knew Rumple before He ever knew her. Maybe that could point to Regina not being Henry’s by blood.
That is a good point though. Despite Regina calling Henry Sr. “daddy,” I think the writers intentionally left us questioning who Regina’s father really is. It makes it more intriguing for us as viewers to speculate. I’ve had the suspicion for a while that Cora, the miller’s daughter, married George, a greedy king consumed by a desire for gold. He fits the description of the king in the original tale. For some reason though, he divorced her, maybe when he found out about the deals she’d made with Rumpel. Perhaps King George cast out Cora, when she was pregnant, not knowing if Regina was his child or not.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantPhee wrote: That theory has popped up a couple of times, and it’s one of those theories where trying to figure out the logistics of it makes my head hurt. Taking this new info into consideration…Cora hanging out with Hook could well suggest that they have a history, and she could have been Rumple’s wife who ran off with Hook. However, there’s been a casting announced for Milha, who is believed to be Rumple’s wife, making it unlikely that she became Cora. Though I suppose they can only make Barbara Hershey look so young, so if they wanted to flash WAY back, they may need another actress. But then if YoungCora ran off with Hook, they would have been the same age then, and Barbara is older than Colin. That could potentially be explained away if he was living in Neverland where he didn’t age, and she somehow ended up back in FTL where she DID age, but she would have had to jump forward in time, because Rumple is centuries old, and though Cora is powerful, I don’t think she’s THAT kind of powerful, where she can live for centuries. And then there’s the miller’s daughter thing. The way it was mentioned made it sound like it was common knowledge who her parents were, which probably wouldn’t have been the case if she was born centuries ago and has since ducked back into FTL at some point after running away from Hook, who she’d run away with to Neverland. *headdesk*
That’s a great, well-thought out theory, Phee! Careful with your head hitting your desk though 🙂
I’m suspecting that the corner of FTL that wasn’t touched by the curse, was protected because Cora was there, and as the mother of the curse-caster, she could generate some sort of immunity to it, and she’s now the big bad who rules over it.
Since both Regina and Rumpel know that the Enchanted Forest still exists, I think the curse was designed to protect a remanent of FTL. They may have plans to go back there some day.
hjbau wrote: I sort of imagine that while part of fairytale land was protected as in the people did not go through, that the other parts of fairytale land are still there, right? Though maybe not. I just keep thinking that they really should show Emma and Snow go back to the locations that Snow remembers like their castle. Emma could see those places, but who knows it really did look like the world broke apart around them in the pilot.
I love that idea, hjbau! I’d love for Emma to see the castle where she was born. Sadly, though it looked pretty ravaged when the dark curse hit there.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantYes, I think the writers will combine the two stories together: Lady of the Lake is the siren of Lake Gnostos.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 8, 2012 at 2:41 am in reply to: Gold’s Favor: Emma is go leave SB and bring back BAE #155973Slurpeez
ParticipantDoes Gold know where Bae is? How will Emma find him? Does Gold know who Henry’s dad is? So many questions. 🙂
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ParticipantI thought Cora might’ve married King George, who is about her age and very greedy, like the king the miller’s daughter married. Maybe they were married but divorced later.
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ParticipantGreat point, Phee! Maybe being trapped in SB is the prince Mr. Gold must pay for brining magic here.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantYes, good catch about the reference to Oz, which I think we’ll see at some point. I wonder if Regina was also referring to Rumpel, who has a greenish-gold appearance thanks to his dark magic.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantAlso, I’m thinking that Rumpel must know Jefferson, and that’s how Rumpel acquired the “looking glass” mirror portal to Wonderland. It’s the same mirror we saw in Jefferson’s hat portal in 1×17.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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