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ParticipantAntBee wrote: Interesting that they didn’t say that we would see Jack too. I wonder if that’s because Bae is Jack, well at least Jack in our world, and they didn’t want to give that away.
Yes, I hope Bae is Jack, and they’re just being mysterious. đ I never watched Lost, so I can’t comment as to who Jack Shepherd is, but it’d certainly make sense for MRJ’s character to go by such a common name like Jack in our world. Baelfire it just stands out too much.
[adrotate group="5"]"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantWriter Jane Espenson had this to say about Emma and magic in a post-premiere interview:
Speaking of the hat, Emma appeared to have a hand in starting it up in the premiere. What are the consequences of the fact that Emma can apparently do magic?
Espenson: Can she do magic? Or facilitate magic? Or conduct magic? That shot of her hand on the arm was certainly evocative. It was not meaningless. I wouldn’t take that to mean Emma can do magic. But yes: Emma. Magic. Some sort of loop around those two words. Again, the first scene of Sunday’s episode is also not going to be Emma making frogs appear. You’re on a very long journey with these characters. http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Espenson-Season2-Spoilers-1054260.aspxI’m wondering if Emma has the capacity to do magic, thanks to her being the savior, but she’ll have to learn how to use that ability. Rumpel said in S1 to Emma, “Regina may be powerful, but something tells me, you’re more powerful than you know.” This could have two meanings; he was speaking to Regina’s grip over the town as a form of power, but I think he also meant Emma has her own capacity for magic.
My theory is that while in FTL, Emma will meet a good wizard (like Merlin) who’ll see her gift and can advise her how to cultivate it over a long period of time.
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantJennifer Morrison clarified this for us in a recent post-premiere interview for TV Line. Regina was just faking so as not to give away too much information:
Speaking with Jennifer Morrison about the season openerâs big twists and what comes next (stay tuned for that video Q&A), I also sought clarification on Reginaâs âamnesiaâ when it came to the Mad Hatterâs alter ego. Or as TVLine reader Jennifer put it: âWas Regina faking it or messing with Emma when she said âWhoâs Jefferson?ââ The answer is: both. âShe was saying she didnât recognize his name, but she obviously knew who he was,â Morrison confirms. âShe was just lying â the same way that she did in the jail cell, when she said to Rumplestiltskin, âOh, [Belle]âs alive?â And he was like, âBullsât, you knew she was alive.ââ Such fleeting fibs are part of Reginaâs bid to âcover her tracks a bit,â says Morrison, now that the mayorâs evil ways are exposed. âShe doesnât want to reveal anymore of herself than she has to.â http://tvline.com/2012/10/04/mentalist-once-upon-a-time-true-blood-revolution-spoilers/#more-368694
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantSneak Peek #2 – Can You Make It Work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7lOXJD3Flo&feature=player_embeddedSneak Peek #3 – The Mad Hatter’s Hat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe6-VJvLzdQ&feature=player_embeddedSneak Peek #4 – We’re Survivors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw_a4rKBPrE&feature=player_embedded"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant^ All good points, regarding whether Regina knew FTL existed or not. Regina must’ve known something still existed, otherwise, as you pointed out, Surayya, otherwise the hat simply would’ve failed to connect. When she told Prince Charming and Snow White that FTL was gone, what she meant was that the land as they knew it was gone. I think she might have been exaggerating to dissuade them from even attempting to find a way back, in a last ditch effort to keep everyone unhappy about being in SB. Regina may have thought FTL remained, but only in a destructed and uninhabitable form. She may not know about the “safe haven” or the survivors. She may really not know if Emma and Snow are alive. Also, I think Regina’s conversation about Jefferson returning to his hovel in the Enchanted Forest, was just her way of mocking him. I doubt she was serious about being able to return there.
Speaking of Jefferson, based on the Canadian spoiler for 2×2, I’m really excited to find out how Jefferson knows for certain that Emma and Snow White were sent to the Enchanted Forest. Yet, why can’t he go there? And is he being entirely truthful about being unable to return? There is a left-over mystery that has been bugging me since 1×17 Hat Trick. When Jefferson fell out the window, did he fall into the hat that Emma made him and into the Enchanted Forest? He seemed to disappear, and it’d be fantastic if he now has another hat portal that works! Maybe he wants to keep this a secret.
Also, Rumpel surprised me in that promo. He asks Charming what happens when someone crosses the SB boarder and seemed dismayed by Charming’s reply that you lose your memories of your old life. Didn’t Rumpel know what would happen, and wasn’t he planning a trip? In 1×21 he said to Regina, “we all know what happens when you try to leave SB” but then didn’t say what actually happens. Was he bluffing or did he not know exactly and was testing Regina? I don’t know.
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantHere’s an awesome photo from Tumblr of the Dr. Whale = Dr. Frankenstein theory:
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI wonder what secret Lancelot and Snow White share that Charming doesn’t know about. I wonder if they’re adopted siblings, former lovers, or maybe just really good friends. Either way, I have a feeling this relationship will be what wins Lancelot over. He appears to be in change of this little group, so it seems like he’ll recognize Snow and vouch for her. Hopefully, they won’t blame Snow (at least not for long) since they ought to blame Regina. I also think once they realize Emma broke the curse and slew the dragon, they’ll realize she isn’t to blame for the wraith either. That was Rumpel and Regina ‘s doing, again, like the dark curse was.
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI’m so excited for this episode. We’ve learned several things about this episode in recent interviews with Jennifer, Adam, and Eddy. Jennifer had this to say recently:
Are we going to see any Emma flashbacks or looks into her past the way we saw with the fairytale characters last year?
Yes, and actually it was so funny because at Comic-Con, we teased those opening sequences with those characters in the mist, and we showed a yellow bug and people thought that meant that the bug was a character, but it was actually that they were implying that we were going to flash back to Emmaâs life. It was their way of symbolizing that. Itâs been really exciting and itâs really fun because weâve now done an episode where we really do get to see Emma 10 years ago and see the differences between what was going on in her life then and whatâs going on in her life now and whatâs changed for her physically and emotionally. We sort of see the roots of where this all came from for her. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/jennifer-morrison-once-upon-a-time-season-2_n_1918426.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=2727120,b=facebookAdam and Eddy said:
TVLINE | What is Emmaâs journey now?
HOROWITZ | After the experiencing the initial joy of finding her parents, Emma struggles as she learns how to be parented. Sheâs also going to have to come to grips with what it means to be the savior post-curse. Sheâll have to reconcile what she thought she knew about the people in her life with who theyâve become, and then navigate a world turned on its head.
KITSIS | Weâre also excited to finally get a good look at some of Emmaâs backstory before she had Henry. We may even see the origins of her beloved yellow bug. http://tvline.com/2012/09/29/once-upon-a-time-season-2-fall-tv-preview/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referralKitsis: And we’re excited also that you’re going to get a bit of Emma before she had Henry. [The flashback to Emma’s past] will be Episode 6 … In that episode you’ll meet Henry’s father. đ
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/30/once-upon-a-time-season-2_n_1927679.htmlLet’s start with the present day New York opener with Michael Raymond-James. Does that mean that someone got out of Storybrooke?!
Adam Horowitz: That’s an excellent question. All we can say about his character is that sooner rather than later, you’ll learn a lot more about him. We air nine episodes before we’re scheduled to go off for Christmas break, and within those episodes, you’ll learn a lot more about him and what his role in our larger story is.How do you respond to the theory that he might be Henry’s (Jared Gilmore) father? They do look alike!
Horowitz: I’d say that there’s a lot of theories out there. We love the speculation, but you’re just going to have to watch and see! Henry’s father is someone we will learn about this year well before the finale.http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Emma-Snow-1054020.aspxI’m really excited for what’s in store. đ
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ParticipantCould you please add my most recent call since I don’t think it was added yet? đ
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ParticipantOne thing I admire on this forum is that whether we like or dislike certain characters, we all come to the table with different assessments. It’s all good. đ
I for one think a key point that Eddy and Adam have made repeatedly is that evil isn’t born, it’s made. I think it holds true for all of the characters, even the so-called “good” ones like Snow White. We saw how magic had the consequence of making her forget Charming and lose her heart. If it hadn’t been for Prince Charming’s intervention, she’d have become as dark as the woman whose life she’d have taken (Regina). Snow was a good person underneath, but even she as a little girl, betrayed Regina’s secret to Cora. We saw how Regina started life wanting nothing to do with magic, and yet, as a result of a mistake on Snow’s part and a huge evil on Cora’s, Regina became evil. Yet, even though she suffered, she still has the choice to turn away from her evil ways and start again, like her dad said she could in 2×2 (before she murdered him).
Similarly, Rumpel wasn’t always evil; he was desperate and made the wrong choice. Zoso made 3 things clear: he knew how to recognize a desperate soul, everybody has a choice, and magic always comes with a price. Rumpel said the same thing to Emma Swan about recognizing a desperate soul, so being desperate and being evil are hardly the same thing, but we all have the capacity to choose between right and wrong. I’m not saying pre-curse Rumpel didn’t have some desire for power, or the capacity to do wrong, because he clearly did, but I believe he was good at heart in wanting to save Baelfire and the thousands of other innocent children from an otherwise certain death. Did he become corrupted by power? Yes, of course. Were his actions evil? Undoubtably. I just think it was the power in the form of magic that corrupted him in the end. Yes, he killed Zoso before he became the Dark One, but I think it came from desperation. What pushed him over the top was that killing Zoso made Rumple as dark as the one he murdered (like he warned would happen to Snow if she killed Regina). That’s not an excuse, and what he did was wrong. Also, he isn’t excused from creating the dark curse just because he was trying to find Baelfire. Evil is evil. It does make for a great story though, because without Rumpel, there’d be no story at all, and nothing for Emma to battle. I think my main point is that every person has the capacity to choose right or wrong. Evil is still evil, but people are redeemable, and I hope Rumpel learns to make the right choices.
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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