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Yeah, I like the idea that they decided to include more “global” legends/myths/fairy-tales in S2. In 1×17, there’s a Chinese-looking door in the portal created by Jefferson’s magic hat. I also noticed in 1×20 that Regina has Chinese figurines in her dinning room (which I think are also hints for Mulan).

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Clockwatcher wrote: The question of the summer is: will magic be only in SB, or will it extend to the rest of the world?

I think when the curse was broken, the people of SB could’ve left town for a briefest sliver of time, since they were no longer bound by the curse. Yet, for some reason, Mr. Gold was sure in a hurry to pour the vial of love potion into the well to bring magic to SB, and it seemed time was of the essence. I think one of his reasons was to introduce magic, which seems to have created another barrier for people to overcome, almost like another curse. I think that there is still going to be a boundary between SB and the rest of the world, and that something else major will have to happen before that barrier can be overcome. Once that is accomplished (whatever it may be), then perhaps magic will affect the rest of the outside world beyond SB. My main purpose for thinking this is that a lot of SB citizens will want to leave town, and it’d be difficult to tell a story if the characters are all spread out. For the sake of the plot, the characters still must be contained somehow (perhaps by this new magic). While it closes the citizens of SB off from the rest of our world, it could open portals to other worlds (specifically, I’m thinking Jefferson’s magic hat will work again).

Emma wasn’t affected by the curse, and I think she always had magic- she just didn’t believe. Maybe Henry does, too.

I also really like that idea that Emma has magic, as Jefferson said she brought it to SB and Henry said things started happening since she decided to stay in town. The clock started working, the mines collapsed when she put on the badge, Graham remembered his FTL identity, David Nolan woke up from his coma, and eventually Emma broke the curse with her belief and true love’s kiss to save Henry. If she was capable of that before she even believed, I think she must be capable of much more now that she knows who she is and that there is magic. Also, she is the product of true love, the most powerful magic of all, so I think Regina and Rumple might just have a contender in Emma Swan.

Also, Adam and Eddy hinted that now that magic has come to SB, it is like a form of currency. You can learn it and spend it, but it always comes at a price.

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Lana Parrilla plays the part so well, and I think she gets the psychology of Regina spot on, as well. I think she is being more candid in her interviews now that we’ve all seen all of S1. It makes total sense for Lana to say that Regina didn’t fully appreciate what she had with Henry until it was too late, and it was her fault moreover for trying to destroy Emma, and yet Henry took the fall.

Here is another snippet from an interview that Lana did, which I think delves even more into her understanding of Regina in S2:

The Evil Queen has a lot of conflict going forward, I’m guessing, after the end of last season, especially the loss of Henry. But also her relationship with Rumple, of course. And the fact that Belle is now out of the prison the Queen constructed. How are some of those conflicts going to unfold on an emotional level for your character?

On an emotional level, which is always where I love to speak from anyway, so that's perfect…

Thank you.
My character, she's lost everything. She's lost everything. She's lost her power, and she's lost her son. She has nothing left, and that's a really, really hard reality for her. Because here's a woman who has been in control of everyone and everything apart from Rumple, Mr. Gold, for 28 years, if not more. It's quite a jarring experience for her. I would say the biggest loss is Henry. Not so much the curse. I feel like curses can fail; curses can be lifted; spells could not work, and the Evil Queen can deal with that. She can just always find another way. But losing Henry, that was something she—I don't think she was anticipating. It was happening and it was something she feared. But she literally pushed him away. She did, unbeknownst to her—her controlling nature, her obsession. Also she was very—she was a bit too stern with him. She didn't listen to him. I think that that just inch by inch started pushing him out the door, and now she's fully lost him. I think that that alone has broken her. And in this season what we'll see—we started our sixth episode right now, so a good portion of fifth for a second season, we're going to see her trying to redeem herself. http://blogcritics.org/video/article/a-conversation-with-jane-espenson-part/

I love Lana as an actress, and I think the plays the “pathos” of the Evil Queen so perfectly, and yet I’m also excited to see Regina potentially see the error of her ways and strive to become a better mom.

Also, Eddy and Adam gave an interview in which they spoke about the theme of redemption being important for everyone in S2, including Regina.

TVLINE | Which existing character would will surprise us most this season?
KITSIS | I would say Regina. Last year, all we ever showed her was making the wrong decision. Her father said, “Once you go down the revenge path you’ll never go back,” and she did it anyway, and she killed her father. She was told the curse will create a hole in her heart that can’t be filled, and she says voids can always be filled. And yet in the finale, she is faced with saving her son Henry or saving the curse, and she chose Henry and lost everything. So what happens now to Regina? Will this be a second chance? Will she redeem herself? Or will she revert to being the Evil Queen? And now, by the way, she doesn’t have to keep lying — I’m the Evil Queen, that’s right. And this is how it goes. The audience will be surprised by how she handles all this.
http://tvline.com/2012/09/29/once-upon-a-time-season-2-fall-tv-preview/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral

Basically, due to the curse, Regina had a hole in her heart that she was never able to fill, even with her adopted son. When the curse was broken by Emma, suddenly Regina no longer had this void, and she was free to love her son, Henry, completely for the first time. She actually sounded believable when she said she loved Henry in the season 1 finale. She wasn’t exactly mother-of-the-year material, but at least she did make the right choice for once in helping Emma save Henry over the curse.

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@ surayya: I love the detective work! Thanks for posting the part of the convo you found, and I think it corroborates the idea that August and the Blue Fairy were working together, and they both knew about the knife and Rumple’s son, Baelfire.

Surayya wrote: Does anyone with the DVD’s know if this particular conversation has subtitles? Very keen to find out the middle of the sentence I cant make out now!

Per your request, I re-watched 1×19 with subtitles from my DVD today. Unfortunately, there weren’t any subtitles for that conversation between Mother Superior and August. The subtitle simply said “indistinct” instead of what was being said. 🙁 I tried really hard to listen with head-phones, but I couldn’t make out anything much better than you already did. I think August might have said. “I understand, but that’s the whole point. I can’t do anything about it with my body like this.” I think Mother Superior may have been persuading August to stick with the plan of getting Emma to believe, but he was so anxious from turning into wood, that he wanted to get Mr. Gold’s knife and use the magic asap.

Also, I never noticed the sign in front of the convent until now. I think it reads “Sisters of Saint Melissa.” As far as I know, there is no such saint in Catholicism, although there may have been a Melissa, queen of Serbia, who may have been canonized in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Anyway, I looked up the name Melissa though, and it does have a connection to Greek mythology, as she was a nymph who cared for the infant Zeus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa

I’m not sure what the official religion in FTL was, but it did seem to be polytheistic, as indicated by Baeflire in 1×19 when he said, “Gods no!” and by Maurice in 1×12 and by Granny in 1×16.

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The La Times interviewed Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz in a 3-page online article:
The creators of ‘Once Upon a Time’ talk Season 2 and ‘Lost’
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-the-creators-of-once-upon-a-time-talk-season-two-20120928,0,5266447.story?page=1

Blog Critics interviewed Lana Parrilla:
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/interview-once-upon-a-times-evil/

Blog Critics interviewed Jane Espenson:
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/a-conversation-with-jane-espenson-part/

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Annabeth Gish sent out a “spoiler-ish” tweet during the filming for 2×7:

She’s not just a powerful sorceress she-wolf, but she’s also a “priestess” which is very intriguing.

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I’m totally on board with this theory! Rumplestiltskin said in Heart of Darkness, “If you can bottle true love, you can do anything,” which supports this idea. Also, we’ve heard Rumple, Regina and Daniel all say, “True love is the most powerful magic of all.” Finally, Regina said in 1×22, “Magic here is unpredictable.” That makes me think the waters of Lake Gnostos will bring back that which is lost, and combined with the powerful magic of true love, will cause all sorts of unexpected things to happen. The executive producers have confirmed that magic works differently in our world. Namely, I think Rumplestiltskin will get his son back (that has to be the main reason he used the enchanted water to bring magic to our world). The fairies could potentially get their magic back, but not right away. Also, I think that Regina will see Daniel again. We know Noah Bean (who plays Daniel) is set to return for episode 2×5! 😀

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AntBee » September 28, 2012, 10:54 pm

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/entertainment/love_that_tv/?p=1267

A new spoiler possibly explaining the Lou Reed “Charley’s Girl” hint that was given,
And what’s up with that stranger in New York who receives a Storybrooke postcard that simply reads, “Broken”?

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Fall Preview: Once Upon a Time Bosses Tease Big Identity Crises, Snow’s Secret & Rumple’s Wrath

Magic has come to Storybrooke — and ABC’s Once Upon a Time will conjure up even more fantastical drama as a result.

This Sunday at 8/7c, last season’s highest-rated new drama returns, picking up right where it left off, with Mary Margaret, David et all fully aware of their remarkable identities, Emma a full-on believer and both Mr. Gold and Mayor Regina Mills – aka Rumplestiltskin and the Evil Queen — champing at the bit to use the restored magic to their advantage.

Series cocreators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis shared with TVLine a preview of the show’s wild, new reality and how it will affect everyone, from Emma and the reunited Charmings to Ruby, Belle and seven little guys.

TVLINE | Now that the residents of Storybrooke know their true identities, what will be the first question they have?
EDDY KITSIS | I think their very first question is going to be, “Why are we still here?” Everyone naturally would assume that when the curse is broken, they’d go back to where they were, and that’s not the case. And then it just becomes a free-for-all. All of the questions that you have, they probably have. What happens now? Can we leave the city? Who did this? Why did they do this?

TVLINE | So, everyone is fully cognizant of both their existences. Mary Margaret is now Snow White, but she can also teach grade-schoolers long division.
ADAM HOROWITZ | Exactly, which is to say that the 28 years of the curse remain as real to them as their prior lives in fairytale land. Hopefully, that complicates things in an interesting way.

TVLINE | If Emma’s now a believer and the curse is lifted, what is your narrative engine for Season 2? What will power you through the first batch of episodes?
HOROWITZ | Part of it’s going to be how Nucky retains power over the boardwalk.
KITSIS | We’re just going to borrow from other shows.
HOROWITZ | But that’s an excellent question, and in many ways the premiere this year is a new pilot, which is to say we take this show that hopefully you enjoyed last season and spin it in a direction that is both familiar and new. The show to us was never about breaking the curse and getting memories back. It was about larger conflicts – some of which were introduced last season, and some of which we’ll introduce very soon. They will center on all of our major players from last year, and yet there are some new people coming aboard. It’s all in service of this larger story we’ve been telling, centered on Snow White, Charming, their daughter Emma and their relationship with the Queen and Rumplestiltskin.

TVLINE | Is anyone in Storybrooke itching to get back to fairytale land more than others?
HOROWITZ | The reactions kind of run the gamut. Everybody is very interested in what their new circumstance means, and they also are very concerned about what the presence of magic will mean for all of their lives.
KITSIS | The seven dwarfs are a perfect example. Leroy realizes he doesn’t just have to be the loser anymore; he had a purpose [as Grumpy], to be a part of the queen’s guard. He is one of the characters who is excited to reclaim who he once was and act on that.
HOROWITZ | We’ve also got some stuff with Ruby that we’re very excited to show the audience. KITSIS | She’s another example of a character who now realizes what she once was, and how that will affect her in the way she behaves in Storybrooke will be a lot of fun. You will see a different Ruby this year.

TVLINE | As Rumple unleashed the purple smoke, we saw a hint of a smirk on Regina. With magic in play, what does that rivalry look like?
KITSIS | Those two have a very complicated relationship, one that we are excited to get into. In fact, Episode 2 is going to be about how Regina met Rumple. What’s interesting is they have this weird thing where they keep f–king each other over, and yet they still seem to need each other. But Rumple knows that Belle is alive, and that Regina [imprisoned] her — and Regina enters the season not knowing that he has that piece of information. So whatever she was saving Belle for just went away, and now I have a feeling Rumple is gong to want revenge.

TVLINE | What does Belle make of this situation she just stumbled into? She hasn’t really known Storybrooke.
KITSIS | This will probably be a strange land to her. She’s never seen a telephone before, she’s never seen a television…. And her inner nature is still one of goodness. Rumple has this large agenda and whatever it is, it required him bringing magic to this land. He has always been a character who has had to chose between love and power, and he’s always chosen power, so now that Belle, this wild card, comes into his life, into this meticulous plan, how will it affect it? And which path will he now choose because of it?

TV LINE | The storytelling has always had one foot sort of planted in “reality” – Emma bonding with the son she gave up for adoption, Mary Margaret and David’s tortured romance. What is the Season 2 equivalent?
KITSIS | It’s going to be, “How does the real-world conflict with fairytale land? — in the sense that people have two lives in their head, and there may be things about who they once were they no longer want to be. In a weird way, the curse-breaking allows everyone to reevaluate themselves.

TVLINE | What is Emma’s journey now?
HOROWITZ | After the experiencing the initial joy of finding her parents, Emma struggles as she learns how to be parented. She’s also going to have to come to grips with what it means to be the savior post-curse. She’ll have to reconcile what she thought she knew about the people in her life with who they’ve become, and then navigate a world turned on its head.
KITSIS | We’re also excited to finally get a good look at some of Emma’s backstory before she had Henry. We may even see the origins of her beloved yellow bug.

TVLINE | Characters such as Sebastian Stan’s Jefferson are set to return for an episode or more. Are they there just for a head count, or do they serve a larger purpose?
HOROWITZ | We’re trying to give everybody a pivotal role in the larger story. So Jefferson doesn’t just show up to say, “Hey, I’m still here.” He’s got a part in this story.
KITSIS | And he has his own story. He’s got a daughter out there. Look, people like Sebastian we would love to have in every episode, but that is not possible because of their schedule. But he is in three episodes in the first batch, and we’re excited for those because they’re not just a “head count.”

TVLINE | Can you tease the circumstances under which we’ll meet one of the new characters? KITSIS | Once of the new characters we’re going to be meeting is Lancelot (Teen Wolf‘s Sinqua Walls), who has a, uh, very…
HOROWITZ | … “complicated” relationship with Snow and Charming. We’re going to explore how that happened, and what it means for the past and for the future.
KITSIS | He and Snow have a secret that I’m not sure Charming knows.

TVLINE | Which existing character would will surprise us most this season?
KITSIS | I would say Regina. Last year, all we ever showed her was making the wrong decision. Her father said, “Once you go down the revenge path you’ll never go back,” and she did it anyway, and she killed her father. She was told the curse will create a hole in her heart that can’t be filled, and she says voids can always be filled. And yet in the finale, she is faced with saving her son Henry or saving the curse, and she chose Henry and lost everything. So what happens now to Regina? Will this be a second chance? Will she redeem herself? Or will she revert to being the Evil Queen? And now, by the way, she doesn’t have to keep lying — I’m the Evil Queen, that’s right. And this is how it goes. The audience will be surprised by how she handles all this.

TVLINE | In closing, any message to the show’s fans?
KITSIS | Please watch.
HOROWITZ | We want to say “thank you” for all the support that we got, and we hope you join us for Season 2. We really are aware we’re only coming back because you watched, and we really want to continue to try to raise the bar.

TVLINE | And, Nucky’s not as bad a guy as we think.
HOROWITZ | Nucky is complicated, you know… He’s a product of this time.
KITSIS | You’re both missing the point, which is regardless of what Nucky does, he runs that city well. I think that in today’s world of bad government, at least trains are running on time in Atlantic City, as far as I can see.

http://tvline.com/2012/09/29/once-upon-a-time-season-2-fall-tv-preview/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral

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I love all the crackpot theorizing, Phee! You’re amongst friends on this forum. 🙂

Phee wrote: I’ve never been committed to team Bae-is-Henry’s-baby-daddy, but with a scenario like that one, it’d fit kind of perfectly for him to be Bae. And the more I think about Blue, the more diabolical I think she may turn out to be, so I wouldn’t put that sort of manipulation past her.

Nice theory about the Blue Fairy being the ones to keep tabs on Emma’s whereabouts. I’d always assumed it was Mr. Gold who was doing that, since he procured Henry for Regina and she accused him of wanting Emma to come to SB. Now, I’m wondering if it was the Blue Fairy who put Mr. Gold up to choosing Henry for Regina, since Eddy and Adam confirmed Mr. Gold didn’t get his memories back until he heard the name “Emma” in the pilot. It’s always been an area of confusion for me, and I’m hoping they clarify this in S2. Exactly who is responsible for Emma Swan’s baby showing up in SB? I like the idea of the Blue Fairy out-manouvring the great manipulator, Rumplestiltksin. She had this secretly gleeful look in The Return when she gave Baelfire the magic bean to send him and Rumpel to our world. Fairies are also known in legend to be tricksters. (A good example of this is Tinker Belle in Peter Pan when she tried to have the Lost Boys shoot down the “Wendy-bird.”)

Also, I was never on the band-wagon with the Baelfire=Henry’s dad either, but all arrows are pointing in that direction. The beanstalk shows up in SB. The last time we saw Baelfire, he used a magic bean to come to our world. The recent image of Henry in a fairy-tale costume that greatly resembles Baelfire’s clothing seems to be more than a mere coincidence. In one shot, Henry was dressed like his mom, the town sheriff. It’d be interesting if Henry were dressed like his dad, Baelfire, in the other shot. Also, we saw Emma Swan dressed like her mom in SW’s fur vest, and dressed like her dad, PC, in his armor. It’s an intriguing parallel. I love all of these family ties. 🙂

I have my own hair-brained theory starting to develop as I type. I think there’s another potential candidate for who could’ve sent the postcard. What if August sent the postcard to the new mysterious stranger, MRJ’s character (aka potentially Baelfire)? If the newly-introduced magic manages to re-animate August as either a walking, talking puppet, or he becomes a real man again, it could happen. A popular theory is that Baelfire and August must’ve known each other in our world, because August knew to call Mr. Gold “papa,” which Baelfire called his dad. Also, August asked Mr. Gold the rhetorical question, “Do I even look anything like him [Bae]?”. August could’ve known what Baelfire looks like if they met before. Moreover, August also knew about the knife and its power, which Baelfire knew about, in addition to Rumple. Next, August knew how to add pages to the storybook, yet he’s not the author of the book. What if Baelfire is the book’s author and he taught August to be his apprentice? Also, there is a connection between August and Baelfire in that they both sought the help of the Blue Fairy/Mother Superior, and both consequently ended up in our world. Finally, in The Return, August went to Mother Superior for council about his father, and yet the Blue Fairy was intentionally vague about the identity of August’s dad when Mr. Gold came calling. The Blue Fairy and August must’ve been in cahoots together trying to fool Mr. Gold into believe August was Baelfire and getting the knife. There are so many potential connections between August and Baelfire that I think they must know each other or at least know of each other through the Blue Fairy.

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