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First sneak peak for ep. 16: An altered Snow White tells a tied up Prince Charming that she’s going to kill the queen: Sunday’s episode is off to a very good start by the looks of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSVXEWIjNZsSecond sneak peak for ep. 16: Snow White seeks Rumplestiltskin’s help to kill the queen as Grumpy tries to talk her out of making a deal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM50Yyc1APA
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Like you, I don’t want August to be Pinocchio, and would like him to be a new character. I’m just wondering based on what has been pointed out previously. One thing that is a strike against August being Pinocchio is, as pointed out on the podcast, Pinocchio is a red-headed little boy in FTL, whereas August is a brunette (unless August’s natural hair color darkened with age or he died it so as not to be recognizable):
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@ mia: I’ve had that exact same question on my mind since Sunday’s episode. I think it’s possible that werewolves could still exist in SB. Firstly, Granny’s scar still aches during a full-moon, and secondly, Red still has amazing canine tracking abilities. Perhaps by constantly wearing red, Ruby is able to prevent turning into a werewolf (or as mia suggested, Red had mastered not turning into her wolf form before coming to SB). I may be wrong about this, but it has left me wondering, too.
It was Mr. Gold who told Graham there are no wolves in SB (“at least not the literal kind”) in episode 7 The Heart is a Lonely Hunter. Perhaps this was Mr. Gold’s way of hinting that there are werewolves in SB. It also makes me think that Graham’s wolf guide may be more than your average wolf. Also, in that dialog in which Sheriff Graham comes across Mr. Gold doing a “spot of gardening” in the woods, there is reason to believe that Mr. Gold knows far more about werewolves than we’d have thought before episode 15.
Mr. Gold: Good morning, Sheriff. Sorry if I startled you.
Graham: Right. Sorry, I thought you were a wolf.
Mr. Gold: Did I forget to shave? [smile]
Graham: What are you doing out here so early?
Mr. Gold: A spot of gardening. Yourself?
Graham: I was looking for a …
Mr. Gold: A wolf. I think I’m starting to catch on. To the best of my knowledge, there are no wolves in Storybrooke, not the literal kind anyway. Why are you looking?
Graham: You’ll think I’m crazy.
Mr. Gold: Try me.
Graham: I saw one in my dreams and then I saw one for real just a few hours ago. Did you see anything unusual out there?
Mr. Gold. I’m afraid not. I do wish I could be more helpful. You know, Sheriff, they say that dreams, dreams are memories of another life.
Graham: What do you believe?
Mr. Gold: I never rule out anything.Also, I think the wolf we saw in the pilot in the middle of the road wasn’t clueless. I think it was preventing Emma from leaving, because it knows who Emma is. I also think that it was the same as Graham’s wolf guide but that the special effects team just forgot to add a reddish hue to on the eyes. It was the same color in both the pilot and episode 7. I don’t think that it was Ruby, because in ep. 15, Red’s wolf form was black.
The wolf form the pilot episode kept Emma from leaving:
Graham’s wolf guide from episode 7.
Red’s wolf form in episode 15:
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
More of what’s to come this season. Spoilers: http://www.examiner.com/once-upon-a-time-in-national/once-upon-a-time-spoilers-details-and-images-from-the-next-5-episodes
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/6368074/Beyond-the-gingerbread-House
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
41Rapunzel I was just reading a wiki page that said episode 20 – The Stranger is supposed to focus on Pinocchio. the episodes title and short summary on it makes me thinks all of out theories on August be a test run for Gippetto might just be right!!
You could be right. It seems more and more likely that the mysterious stranger (aka August W. Booth) is Pinocchio (unless the episode title The Strager is meant to be a red herring). The idea that August always tells the truth, but then went on to mislead Red about there being lemurs in Nepal, agrees with the Pinocchio story line. Although Pinocchio was always supposed to tell the truth, he actually often lied, which is why his nose grew long.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Full-length description: “The Stable Boy” – Emma continues her exhaustive search for evidence that will prove Mary Margaret’s innocence in the murder of David’s wife, Kathryn. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was and before evil blackened her soul, Regina must choose between betraying her mother, Cora (Barbara Hershey), and marrying for true love, or betrothing royalty and living a regal – but loveless – life; and the event that caused the Evil Queen to loathe Snow White is revealed, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, APRIL 1 (8:00-9:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Eion Bailey as August, Jared Gilmore as Henry Mills and Raphael Sbarge as Jiminy Cricket/Archie Hopper.
Guest starring are Anastasia Griffith as Kathryn/Abigail, Meghan Ory as Ruby/Red, Tony Perez as valet/father, Giancarlo Esposito as Sidney/The Mirror, Alan Dale as Albert Spencer/King George, Barbara Hershey as Cora, Noah Bean as Daniel/stable boy, Richard Schiff as King Leopold and Bailee Madison as young Snow White.
“The Stable Boy” was written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz and directed by Dean White. http://www.ksitetv.com/once-upon-a-time/once-upon-a-time-spoilers-full-description-for-the-stable-boy/12548
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@ hjbau: Those photos are really intriguing, but I think they’re from episode 16 Heart of Darkness, based on the preview for this coming Sunday and the episode description of Mr. Gold representing Mary Margaret in court. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLhu8Nrn8k0 If you watch the preview carefully, you’ll see that Mary Margaret is getting a mug shot taken in the same outfit as the photos, and Emma is wearing the same outfit in the photos as in the preview.
This is the spoiler section for ep. 17 Hat Trick. I think you’re right about us having yet to hear a convo between Mr. Gold and Mary Margaret. Perhaps Mr. Gold is offering Mary Margaret his services as a lawyer, and Emma looks disapproving. That or Mary Margaret called Mr. Gold with her one phone call in jail. Can’t wait until Sunday!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@ mia: Interesting observation you had.
David’s state reminded me of how Snow looked like when Grumpy found her after she drank the potion.
Snow White is going to suffer the price of drinking the potion, because all magic comes with a price. What if David’s experiencing the harmful effects of some unknown magic spell?
@ Rumplesgirl:
If David is having some sort of flashback to his life in FTL when he was in the woods, then why was he so distant from MM? It’s like he doesn’t even know her…
I agree that David appears to be looking for something other than Mary Margaret. I posted this theory elsewhere, but I think that what David is searching for is his own heart (the one Ruby found). https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=302 Maybe David can no longer feel anything since Mary Margaret’s rejection of him, and for some reason, he’s back to his “dream-walking” (as Emma called it). Mary Margaret’s kiss of life woke up David when he was found unconscious by the toll bridge in ep. 3. Perhaps her rejection of him in ep. 13 had the reverse effect. In a sense, she is reversing “true love’s kiss” when she tells him they don’t have real love. So, he doesn’t know Mary Margaret when in his catatonic, though functional, state. David is left even more confused, which causes a kind of split-personality disorder.
He comes across as someone who is being manipulated or controlled from afar.
One possibility is that Dr. Whale, who seems to be in cahoots with Regina, is adept at mind-control. Maybe Dr. Whale kept David in a drug-induced comma all those years. Maybe he’s drugging David again. He tells Emma what appears to be a reasonable explanation (that the blackouts are the same phenomena that David experienced when waking from a comma). Yet, remember how Dr. Whale lied to Mary Margaret when David showed initial signs of brain activity when David grabbed her hand? Dr. Whale clearly is sinister, and his motives appear dark to me.
Even if he had crossed some sort of magical boundary into FTL wouldn’t he still have known Snow/MM?
I think this is a good point. Why would crossing the line cause the citizens to have amnesia? That would just be counterproductive to what Regina wants. Regina really wants the citizens to have fake SB memories, and it seems like crossing the boundary would free them from that grip she’s so carefully constructed. The only way I could see that theory working is if Rumple set up the system such that by crossing the border, citizens of SB get “reset” to a basic amnesia mode and then have their FTL identities reloaded on to their hard-drives by viewing objects linked to FTL (e.g. Emma’s unicorn mobile would cause David to believe he’s really Prince Charming).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@ rumplegoldfan: While certain kinds of lemurs are only found in Madagascar and a few other Indian Ocean islands, there is another kind of primate in south-east Asia called the Sunda Flying Lemur. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_Flying_Lemur I know that type of lemur isn’t indigenous to Nepal, but maybe the word lemur is used more broadly than previously thought. I’m not a primatologist, so I can’t say for sure. But, you could be right about it not just being a geographical error. Maybe August was simply misleading Ruby to inspire her adventurous side and get her to quit Granny’s diner to work for Emma (thereby consequently finding the box).
I do find the idea of lemures from Roman mythology to be quite interesting. Maybe the writers of episode 15 were trying to tie together Western mythology with Eastern faiths by mentioning Nepalese temples. Since August appears to be so widely traveled, maybe he is into universalism. He likes to talk about how water is important to all faiths. I’m not sure what he is getting at, but maybe he is creating a new mythology because he is a writer. I’m not sure how that connects to SB, FTL, or his agenda, but it makes for an enigmatic character.
As for August being the reincarnated spirit of Regina’s father, it’s an interesting thought, but one I doubt. Weren’t lemures in Roman mythology considered vengeful? Regina’s father didn’t strike me as ever being vengeful, even right before he was about to be sacrificed by his own daughter. He seemed to be loving her even in her murderous evil moments.
Finally, based on some spoiler information, I have to agree with another ongoing theory about August’s identity. Based on episode 20’s title The Strager, and on set photos of Pinocchio from that episode, it seems more and more likely that the mysterious stranger (aka August) is Pinocchio (unless the episode title The Strager is meant to be a red herring). The idea that August always tells the truth, but then went on to mislead Red about there being lemurs in Nepal, agrees with the Pinocchio story line. Although Pinocchio was always supposed to tell the truth, he actually often lied, which is why his nose grew long. http://storybrooke.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=178
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Either Kitsis wants us to pay attention to the fact that August was lying about lemurs in Nepal or the writers of episode 15 just got that fact wrong. They wrote lemurs, but really meant monkeys. There is an ancient religious “monkey temple” in the Kathmandu Valley of Nepal called Swayambhunath. It’s probably the the most sacred among Buddhist pilgrim sites and is among the oldest religious sites in Nepal. It’s sometimes called the “monkey temple” as there are holy monkeys living in parts of the temple in the north-west. You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swayambhunath
August strikes me as a spiritual kind of guy. He mentioned the temples of Nepal that are central to the Buddhist and Hindu faiths. Also, he said to Emma in episode 13 that water is revered all over the world in many different faiths. He said, “Water is a very powerful thing. Cultures as old as time have worshiped it. It flows throughout all lands connecting the entire world. If anything had mystical properties, if anything had magic, well I’d say it’d be water.” Perhaps August is not a vengeful spirit, but a wandering soul. He travels all over the world writing about experiences. It’s very intriguing.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
