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OK now for my theory, which actually started a few days ago. I mentioned causually that it would be interesting to introduce the three fates, or as they are known in the Odyssey, the three spinsters to the story. The are very much like Rumpel, deciding the fates of men.
So these would be a perfect fitThe Fates have the subtle but awesome power of deciding a man’s destiny. They assign a man to good or evil. Their most obvious choice is choosing how long a man lives. There are three Fates. Clotho, the spinner, who spins the thread of life. Lachesis, the measurer, who choses the lot in life one will have and measures off how long it is to be. Atropos, she who cannot be turned, who at death with her shears cuts the thread of life.
The Fates are old and predate the gods. It is not entirely clear how far their power extends. It is possible that they determine the fate of the gods as well. In any case, not even the most powerful is willing to triffle with them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OdysseySo this would make Odysseus Rumpel’s dad. He can be seen as a coward, his travels lead many of his crew to their deaths as he slipped out every time. He was cunning, like Rumpel, depending on his wit to get him out of sticky situations.
Now I don’t remember it all… I will have to brush up on Mythology, but so far it seems a perfect fit.
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Ok it could be Hector:The next day, the enraged Achilles renounces the wrath that kept him out of action and routs the Trojans back to the city. Hector chooses to remain outside the gates of Troy and face Achilles, partially because had he listened to Polydamas and retreated with his troops the previous night, Achilles would not have killed so many Trojans. However, when he sees Achilles he is seized by fear, and turns to flee, as Achilles gives chase to him three times around the city. Hector then masters his fear and turns to face Achilles. But Athena, in the disguise of Hector’s brother Deiphobus, deluded Hector. He requests from Achilles that the victor would return the other’s body after the duel, (though Hector himself made it clear he planned to throw Patroclus’ body to the dogs) but Achilles refuses. Achilles hurls his spear at Hector, who dodges it, but Athena brought it back to Achilles’ hands without Hector noticing. Hector then throws his spear at Achilles; it hits the shield but to no avail. When Hector turns to face his supposed brother to retrieve another spear he sees no one there. At that moment he realizes that he is doomed. Hector decides that he will go down fighting and that men will talk about his bravery in years to come; the desire to achieve ever-lasting honor was one of the most fierce for soldiers living in the timocratic (honor based) society of the age.
There is also mention of an infant son http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector
[adrotate group="5"]Ok first let me combine a bit
@Vampirefan12 wrote:
What are your theories about Rumpel’s father?
Could Rumpelstiltskin’s father be the Cowardly Lion from Oz?
Some fans do compare Rumpel to being the cowardly lion; but what if his father was the real Cowardly Lion from Oz.
@EastOfTheSun wrote:
¿Could they be the 3 spinsters? From the Grimm fairytale??? In the original fairytale they help a girl, who was ordered by the queen to spin a room full of flax, once they help her she is to call them “cousins” and invite them to her wedding to the prince, (it has many similarities to the millers daughter tale in my opinion) maybe in Once they are the ones that take care of Rumple as a kid, and teach him how to spin at the wheel.
Fairytale Link: http://www.worldoftales.com/fairy_tales/Brothers_Grimm/Grimm_household_tales/The_three_spinsters.html
Like I said earlier
@SpinningGold wrote:BTW if I remember correctly the Blue Fairy states only that it is “The last known bean”… there might be dozens of them laying in ditches throughout FTL
@myril wrote:
More fuel though as well for the theory that the Blue Fairy has her own grand scheme running and manipulated Rumple in this moment. I read it differently, but can see that one can read it as the Blue Fairy telling Rumple not the whole story.
I dunno if there is a grand scheme, the Blue Fairy is extremely fickle, granting wishes to those she considers are worth it at the drop of a hat. Is Jimminy really better off being a cricket? How does THAT make things up to a boy that just lost his parents.
And she HATES the Dark One… Is this because she can’t own up to her mistakes? AGAIN like with Grumpy, If things go wrong, there is never a fairy round to fix it. It’s like oopsie, mistake, well you’llbe fine now won’t you?
It’s not that the fairies are bad, just extremely nosy and irresponsable. First they stick their nose in where it does not belong, then they sprinkle around some magic that nobody wants, and after that they leave when things fall apart,
Just look at the ogre wars. Why did it take Rumpelstiltskin, the Dark One, to stop it? Why could the Blue fairy not protect the land, and innocent children (Because there would be no story, you dunce <- speaks at self) But also because she is a spoilt and fickle little fairy. The act a bit like Greek gods, only bestowing favours when they feel like it. That does not make them bad... just not responsable enough to be handling magic.
Magic is power. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.Does anyone else think the writers might be hiding a political message in this? Or is that just me?
@Naomi wrote:
On weekends and afterschool he can be coach of the junior soccer team. 😛
😆 😆 😆 Let’s hope Grandad doesn’t come to cheer his boys on!
I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday: We need an OUAT-AA. Though it is certainly not a habit I wanna kick very fast. I’m perfectly happy in fairy tale land.
So here goes:
Hi, my name is Jolien, 30 years old from the Netherlands, and I am a Once upon a Time, addict. I was hooked from the first moment I saw the trailer. I simply love fairy tales.
My drug of choice would be Rumpel, with a slash of Graham (You know Jamie is a great singer too? He forsaw his role, listen to : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1bWr6IOJ5I) I can’t resist an Irish accent (darn you Hook, I don’t want to like you) or Scottsh and my Rumpel dear SPINS. He sends shivers up my spine when he does that. Actually, if they spent a whole episode putting Robert behind the spinning wheel I’d be perfectly happy. They could call it: Spinning classes with mr Gold or Spinning Gold 😆
I don’t know what I am gonna do with myself once this season ends, but I hope that together, with the support of the group I can make it through. Maybe we should set up a buddy system 😆So, having said that, I pass the microphone to the next person.
@Gypsy wrote:
medchen –
What I meant was, I think her intentions are good, even though her way of going about achieving her desired outcome may be questionable.
I don’t think she would purposely hurt anyone, but manipulating a situation – I wouldn’t put it past her.
I don’t see her doing anything like Rumple (zapping Cinderella’s Fairy Godmother) or Regina (poisoning an apple) to get her way.
Like I said, the road to hell is paved with good intensions. And especially the Blue Fairy does that A LOT. I hope there will be a flashback with a Rumpel/Blue Fairy showdown sooner or later. If I am right, she made him (well at least the Dark One), but she shows no responsability. Same thing with Grumpy, he was a fairy dust mishap, and what does she do? Ruin his life.
No good comes of magic. Each time it proves to be a quick fix, that later turns out sour. Rumpel magic but also Blue Fairy magic. And that is why I wonder if the fairy tale creatures aren’t better off in our world. Maybe that is the true underlining message of Once upon a Time: You can’t fix your life with magic, sooner or later you will pay the price for that.
Actually, I think the fairies are a bunch of screw-ups that act like a bunch of demi-gods. They do it “for the greater good” but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Several of the magic users, if not all of them have stated at one point or another that “No good comes from magic”, and they have the scars to prove it. Yet the blue fairy refuses to acknowledge that, and stubbornly persist on using it. Every time the fairies make a mistake, evil is created. It’s how the dark one came to exist, that girl Bae talks to names her as the source. Once evil is brought in the world, the fairies can’t undo it, except send you to another world.
Another example: Look at poor Dreamy/ Grumpy. He got messed up by a hit of fairy dust, and now is forever miserable.
So I don’t think that the fairies are bad, just extremely meddling busy-bodies, that can’t oversee their actions. And that leads to casualties. And who knows, maybe they are just fairy-dust addicts, even more addicted to magic than Rumpel.
The do look a bit drugged up in those suger-coated jellyfish outfits, don’t they? 😆BTW if I remember correctly the Blue Fairy states only that it is “The last known bean”… there might be dozens of them laying in ditches throughout FTL
