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Guten Morgen 😀
Of course, despite all our theories, it may just be that the whole cane thing has not crossed the writers’ mind yet at all, and they are still figuring it out. We treat the story like it is set in stone, when in fact it is still being written.
Mr. Gold not having a first name makes perfect sense to me, a a tribute to the fairy tale where Rumpelstiltskin keeps his name a secret. But judging from an interview where they asked about it, they treated it more like an oversight.
So we will wait and see. And you can be sure that the writers will do anything to please us, but then add in a twist to surprise us. *wishes she was completely caught up with season 2, instead of half way through the first*[adrotate group="5"]It is her name that brings his memory back. He make it that way by himself. In the first episode he says: “Emma what a lovely name.” and goes outside with a smile. This is the second he get his memory back.
As far as I know that’s a theory, and I don’t buy it. Rumpelstiltskin’s memory might be vague in parts, but I think he has squirreled away clues for himself throughout Storybrooke, that’s why is always digging away in the forrest, looking for whatever he has put there that can further his plan. How else would he know saying please to Regina always works. It has taken him 300 years to perfect the curse and 28 yrs to get ready for Emma’s arrival. He’s ready.
I said it before, Rumpelstiltskin planned this curse to a ridiculous degree. I think I saw a little clip of OUAT where in Gold says that he threw in a dash of true love (snow&charming’s) as an escape clause. That can’t be the only one, he has set up everything every second of this curse. He gave it to Regina because he knew she would and could cast it. He goaded her to cast it, helping Snow and Charming to find eachother, knowing this would infuriate Regina.
By getting himself thrown in jail he gets front row tickets to the whole debacle.
In this respect Cinderella’s story could be interesting. The cane could also be the fairy godmother wand, I don’t think we know what happened to it. As he signs away his power, he would only surpress the Dark One (which would also explain why he is not the Dark One after magic comes to Storybrooke). A wand would still work. He know Regina is gonna use the curse already, she has threatened to do so, and always makes good on her threats (unlike her promises). As the curse grabs hold he changes the wand into a cane, and thus takes it with him, having a little bit of magic if need be.
I still prefer the knife theory though.
Is it me or are the scrolls on the blade and the handle of the cane similar?Oh BTW even though Rumpel is an evil master schemer, I STILL love him. Yes he sacrifices the world, but for what? To be with his son. I think that’s beautiful.
Tiara_Rose: You assume that due to the curse and losing his magic,his leg would go back to his old limping state. But he is Rupalstiltskin, he made the curse. He plans things out to a ridiculous degree, why would he do anything that reverts him back to a criple? To have a weakness that would leave him vulnerable? Sorry I don’t buy that. Plus why would the curse be designed to undo magic? It just cuts it off from the moment they land in our world, not the period before. All Rumpel/Gold’s contracts are still in place… just have gotten an ‘earthly’ sauce poured over them. Which is just another reason to believe mr. Gold still has (weak) magic in season one.
Yes, he has a cane, but I watched closely and he hardly leans on it. He doesn’t need the cane. He can pretend well enough though, he had years of experience.
The assumption he gets his magic back when he hears Emma’s name is just that. He doesn’t know what she looks like after all, of course he will be surprised to see her. And I think he knew perfectly well Henry was Emma’s and what that meant, when he chose Henry as Regina’s foster child, a decade earlier.Low on magic, not devoid of magic. When Regina crushes Graham’s heart, he still dies, something that could not have been achieved without magic still having it’s hold. When Gold says please, Regina listens: Magic. Gepetto’s parents are still puppets: Magic… after all, everybody else became human again,why haven’t they. Storybrooke is NOT our world, it is an inbetween land, placed in a protected bubble by the curse. Even the fact that no one ages is due to magic. Magic as strong as the dagger should certainly still work by that logic.
Spinning Gold please watch 1.19. Then you will know that the cane doesn’t hide knife, also that he is lame .
I think I just proven Rumpelstiltskin is NOT lame in FTL. At all. And given an alternative theory to bypass that what happens in episode 1×19. Now that the knife wouldn’t fit is another problem, but he is Rumpelstiltskin… I am sure he could find a way around it. But of course, it could also hold a magic wand.
Ok, just looked. I’m from Holland and still in season one, so I haven’t seen all the episodes yet, but the man is addictive, so I might have had one or two sneak peeks (or three or more). Rumpelstiltskin does not have a cane, never, not from the moment he becomes the Dark One. There is no cane in the episode he loses Bae, he walks without a crutch or cane (although he does plant the knife as a crutch in the ground and holds on to it, in order not fall in the hole, is this a hint?) There is no cane in the episodes with Belle, or Prince Charming, or Snowwhite or anyone. (My other theory was that the injury would be from his fight with Cora, Regina’s mother. The general idea there being that a wound substained by black magic that was not his own could not be healed by him. But no cane in the last few moments in FTL before the curse grabs hold either) So there is no reason Mr Gold would need a cane. Thus, the cane has to be something he wants to hold close. *Goes back to theory cane is some magic instrument he transformed… or maybe it is in it, perfect place to hide a wand or knife*
The most logical thing would be is that it contains the knife: Hidden in plain sight is always the best method. But when he thought August was Bae they dug up the knife. Unless …. Rumpel is always ten steps ahead of everyone, and he already admitted to Archie he was afraid his son would want to kill him. With that in mind, what if it was just a test, and THAT knife was a duplica. It would also explain why it could not control him. After all, saying please works fine on Regina, and he already knows who he is, so the knife should work too. Rumpelstitskin sure is devious enough to pull off such a scheme, it would be right up his alley. It all makes sense.
Or I am overthinking it and Robert Carlyle just uses it as an acting tool to give him that aristocratic gentleman look… It sure is working *drools*
And I would like to thank whoever made a movie of all the Rumpelstiltskin parts of season one and put it on Youtube. Thanks Baelish!
I noticed that throughout the series he hardly uses the cane to lean on at all. It is more like it is an instrument that he just wants to have with him at all times. So maybe the cane is a magic wand or staff that he has transformed so no one will notice.
I would love an episode where one of the fairy tale writers gets through to our world. I think it could work really well with the brothers Grimm. They land in a different century here, so not in Storybrooke, and will have died many centuries before it even existed. But it would explain why we know the stories.
Oh and maybe Merlin? Defeated by Rumpelstiltskin heis tossed to our world as Rumpel “tests” a curse to reunite him with Bae, only this version is a few centuries off. Merlin arrives here though with magic (and if Merlin could look like Colin Morgan, even better…. *sniff* I want Merlin back!)Just caught up with 51 pages. *wipes sweat from brow*
Well here goes for a first post, it was great to read your theories, very enlightening and fun to read. And very good to know that I’m not the onlyone obsessed about this man. So to return the favour, here’s my two cents:
I’m surprised nobody saw this yet, but I think The Dark Curse is poisoning Rumpelstiltskin, like Gollem is poisoned by the ring in LotR. It is clearest in the episode that he loses Bae. He can’t let go of the power, the gold, it has him in it’s grip. He is truly possesed by it, just like the Ring does in LotR. They can’t cast it in to the fire, and Rumpelstiltskin can’t let go either, because the power is within him, and it’s holding him back, eating away at him jut like the Ring that does not want to be destroyed. When he is finally ready, it is too late, the hole closes, Bae is gone. You can actually see his eyes are wider as Rumpel, especially in that episode (and I would love to know how they done that) like he is possesed.As mr. Gold he is free from the Dark One’s part of the curse, but after 300 years of power he is so used to it, he can’t just give it up. It’s his crutch (with a lovely golden handle,maybe that’s why he can’t get rid of the thing. And let’s face it, Robert Carlyle makes the thing sexy). Plus no one may remember who they are, but they still have the same feelings towards eachother. Seeing everyone hates his guts, he needs the status as protection. Last but not least, he needs his power to beat Regina. It is his curse, and what it does was not Regina expected. He knows how evil Regina truly is and needs his power to keep her under his thumb when the time comes.
No one knew who they were when they went to Storybrooke, but Rumpel left himself clues (in Squid inkt I bet. It could be the reason he makes the second deal with Cinderella. He knows fully well it’s a trap, but he needs that inkt, because he KNOWS the spell is gonna be cast soon) He has left hints and helpful tools all around the forest, and that is why he is always digging around there like a forgetful squirrel. He knows he has planted stuff out there, but he doesn’t know where, and he is still piecing the lot together.Master manipulator he might be but he is always true to his word. Rumpel and the Genie have both said it: No good comes from magic. Be careful what you wish for, it might come true. Everyone who asks for Rumpel’s help does this for short term gain, and it comes to bite the back in the butt. Rumpel knows this, even warns his “victims”, but they all go down by their own greed. Which, let’s face it, serves him perfectly well.
I do think in that Rumpel/Gold is less evil than Regina/ EQ
Everything Rumpelstiltskin is towards his goal of finding back his son. All his deals are either a search or a direct result of it. In that respect Cinderella’s kid even might have been a back up plan: Result of true love, in case the deal with Snow and Charming fell through. That is also why he gives up the baby so easily once she is born. He does not need her anymore, Emma is there before him. And he gets a good deal out of it in the proces, a favour from Emma.
He made the curse, but I don’t think he could have cast it, even if he had something or someone he loved enough, he could not have sacrificed her. That is why has tried every other way already. It could even be why he send Belle away. Not because he does not love her, but because his spell is finished, and he knows the last ingredient. With Belle around, temptation is too great, so he sends her away. An act of cowardice and heroism all in one. He is protecting her from his own dark side. And also he can’t give up magic till he is reunited with Bae. He made a promise to find him, and he will always keep his promise. He believes he needs his magic for that.
When Regina comes to the scene he finds someone who can. That’s why he gives her the spell,but not completely, so he has a bargaining chip. Regina is not driven by love but by an all consuming vengange on everything around it. She WILL sacrifice everything (but in Storybrooke finally starts to realise that it has left her empty inside, and tries to fill that hole with a child) Her magic is purely dark, and so far I have not seen an excuse for it either. Since she is still human I wonder what the reason is. Has she no heart, did she lose it by the hand of her mother, or traded in an attempt to get back her lover and is that why she is so heartless? We already know that fairy tale creatures can live perfectly well without a heart. That would also explain her obsession with hearts, and why she wants Snow’s. A pure heart to replace her own.I don’t think Rumpel or August have written the book. I think August brought it from FTL when he came through the closet, ahead of Emma. It is their history book, and the reason Rumpel is hardly in it, is that bad history is rather forgotten, brushed under the carpet. Nothing new there. The book is probably written in squid inkt, so it survived the trip.
And this theory is out there, but what if August brought Henry to Storybrooke, with the book, a letter of who the baby was and placed it all in front of his gran’s house: Mary-Margaret.
Only Rumpel finds him first on an early morning round (maybe collecting rent). He takes the baby, and the letter, but not the basket. That is found by Mary-Margaret, and still contains the book, which she keeps. He goes on to give the baby on to Regina, as a bargain for something or other, knowing the baby is Emma’s and that will eventually lead her to Storybrook, exactly where he wants her. We have never found out why Henry knows Emma is his mother, and for a ten year old to find this out is rather strange, especially seeing Regina didn’t know. Maybe mr Gold made sure this letter ended up in Henry’s hands?And I am surprised that Rumpelstiltskin has not figured this out yet, but Emma’s kiss solves everything. She is Twue Wuve (couldn’t help myself) or at least the product of that, and her kiss is true love’s kiss. That’s why the Sherrif remembered he was the Woodsman, because he kissed her in a drunken mood. That’s why it saved Henry.
Just a thought, but could the Dark One, be a result of the Blue Fairy’s magic gone awry? Bae is recommended to go to the source: The Blue Fairy. And Dreamy turns into Grumpy due to her meddling. It seems that if the fairies’ magic goes bad, then evil is createdand can’t be undone. And Rumpelstiltskin himself says that Fairy magic is evil as he kills the Fairy godmother. It seems the Blue Fairy can not always oversee her magic. And then has sloppy solutions to solve it. Many a FTL creature must have fallen through the cracks over the centuries, and that is why we know the fairy tales.
