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@mia wrote:
Well, that’s what I meant with people died since the very beginning in Disney pictures. 😉 But still, he may die temporarily, but he won’t die “for good”.
That’s kind of the reaction we’re suppose to have to whoever dies funny enough. But wow think back on most Disney movies something takes a dirt nap! You want to cry put on some old Disney movies!
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@mia wrote:
This is also supposed to be a family’s show, I don’t quite think Disney would allow them to kill off the kid … Then again, since the very beginning people died in the Disney movies, so who knows.
Personally, I agree with you sjm and slurrpez and whoever else it was that had the idea (so many people in so many different threads). I think Henry either intentionally or unintentionally is poisoned (or anything similar, falls sick, whatever) and that’ll be Emma’s wake up call.
Have you seen Disney’s Pinocchio? They show the kid face down in water? Beauty and The Beast? Dude gets stabbed! Lion King! “Dad get up” I don’t think Disney’s above letting a kid a die lol
@sjm wrote:
Okay, another “proof” is the skeleton keys. In the book, in Henry’s hands, opening MM door, opening the jail cell — crazy. Emma has to be wondering about that. To me that is probably the most unexplainable thing that has happened that connects to the book and FTL.
But I admit I would be hesitant to believe, but I am also the type person who would be trying to figure out the truth, and so just wouldn’t deny the possibility, adamantly, even if it was beyond reason. The skeleton keys would give me pause, and frankly I would have started trying them on every door in the building to verify that they work on anything. Then I would really be asking a lot of questions, especially since the key shape obviously doesn’t fit a modern day door.
I thought when August showed her his leg that would be the defining moment, but the fact that she couldn’t see it just blew me away. That was an awesome twist by the writers. She can’t even see the truth, because she refuses to believe in even the possibility.
slurpeez108 and Phee really appreciate your insights. I think I agree with you most on what you said.
I think my indignation and anger is not directed so much at August as it is Gepetto for being so selfish that he demanded his boy be saved over MM going with Emma. So short-sighted, but selfishness usually is.
Oh I know this one! This is that frog in boiling water thing! All these things come along gradually so things don’t seem really as off as they are so in the end it’s easier to dismiss.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
I would be angry at August if he abandoned Emma when he was a teenager or young man, but he was only 7. 7 years old people. He was in a strange land and given responsibilities that no child should be given. He had the weight of taking care of a child on his shoulders when he himself was still a child. I’m sorry, but I can’t be angry at him. Especially after seeing what kind of foster home he was living in. My mother grew up in a foster home and she ran away 3 different times. And you know what, I don’t blame one bit.
Ok but he’s not just some 7 year old he’s freaking Pinocchio! He had to earn his human form by being brave, truthful & unselfish. He knows what it is to be brave when he sacrificed himself to save Geppetto. I won’t pretend to know what it’s like in a foster home but I’d bet that some where when he was thinking how hard is is for him that it was gonna be just as hard for Emma. Whatever they were gonna have to face at least they would have faced it together. That aside ok he’s a kid so he dips, but still he only came back when he himself was affected. That’s when he came back when his personal well being was threatened. If he’d have come back earlier then I’d be more inclined to let him slide on leaving as a 7 year old. There’s a time between when Emma was still a kid who needed if nothing else some one to be there so she wouldn’t be alone on her birthday and when Henry showed up so she wouldn’t be anymore that I can’t see how to justify. Sometime between abandoning Emma and his leg starting to turn into wood he much like the victims of the curse lost who he was, somewhere between 18-35 he didn’t do enough.
Just a thought but what if all the people who need her to believe hit Emma with an intervention type thing to finally get her out of her denial. The mad Hatter is suppose to be back for these next two episodes. So what if the whole is greater than the sum of the parts (I think that’s how it goes) Henry, August, Jefferson, they all tried to convince her on their own but if all of them do it at once? Throw Mr. Gold in there too, maybe that gives them a better shot some of this is gonna end up coming down to a leap of faith anyway but I think it’ll be easier if they all work together. When I think about it though her reaction to being told by August isn’t completely one of someone who doesn’t believe what she’s being told. It sounded like she does believe but is overwhelmed by the responsibility and doesn’t want to face it. Maybe it’s not a matter of believing in magic or curses but a matter of Emma believing in herself. Hence the line in the promo “you might not believe in curses but I believe in you.”
@Phee wrote:
Looks like I’ll be retiring my Baelocchio the Wizard of Neverland signature pic now. 😆
TeamPinocchio FTW!!! 😉
Yes, yes it is, bit it’s had a good run though lol
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Favorite moment: August and Geppetto have a moment at the end in which August wants to “fix things.” I also liked seeing their background which made for an interesting story.
Least favorite moment: Emma leaves. However, I don’t think she’s going to be able to get very far. Even though she can leave, technically, Henry may plead not to go with her. He has a vested interest in staying and seeing her break the curse. If they were to leave, I wonder what Regina would do. ❓
Is it me or does it seem like in the promo Henry grabs the steering wheel & runs them off the road?
@slurpeez108 wrote:
I think Geppetto acted out of desperation as well. I can understand that as a parent, he’d want to save his child a horrible fate of turning into wood. Although, I think if he’d thought it through more, he might have realized that sending a baby through and entrusting its care to a 7-year-old might not have been a wise decision. If/When Emma finally believes in FTL, she is going to have a grudge against Geppetto for having a lousy childhood and being raised without a mother or father. I seriously teared up when baby Emma was left alone in her crib with no ally or guardian. She has been alone her entire life and it’s no wonder she has trust issues. Simultaneously, I understand that Pinocchio was just a 7-year-old kid who couldn’t face the responsibility. Heck, there are a lot of 27-year-old “kidults” who won’t face that kind of responsibility. I did like the fact that August now wants to set things to rights.
It’s just that he didn’t come back to set things right he came back because his leg started hurting. One could argue that he wouldn’t have come back if he wasn’t dying. Imagine how different Emma’s life would have been if she’ve had her would be big brother? How much less it would have taken to convince Emma of the truth? Well it’s a better story this way.
@NONNIE wrote:
THE writers have been dropping HINTS all over the internet/ news interviews that Graham will be back… I do not know if it will be in FTL or in SB. I have no rumors on Seb. Stan coming back this season, but supposedly they are negotiating for a comeback next season…. but that could have been SOMEONE ELSE’s DREAM.
NONNIE,
.I heard he’s in the final two episodes?
http://www.examiner.com/article/once-upon-a-time-spoilers-sebastian-stan-s-mad-hatter-will-return
@NONNIE wrote:
SORRY, but I pretty much disagree with everyone….
Geppetto had a right to want to save his son… wood or real why is his son of less value then Emma. I will not FAULT Geppetto for wanting or demanding to save his son.
As for Emma believing, there has been NO evidence except the book which can be looked on as a book of fiction, folk lore not history. YES, she knows REGINA IS Evil and not good for Henry or anyone else. I want to know what other evidence has been presented? Emma has no way of knowing what has occurred in FTL, we might know but Emma does not.
Nonnie
BTW if the episode has been shown you do not need to use the spoiler code to cover your statements….
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So I’m ok with the “He IS freakin’ Pinocchio” title of my thread?
