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@King Arthur wrote:
I have a left field theory. What if the character that dies is not any of the ones we are naturally focusing on.
What if it is GRANNY that dies? It could be of natural causes or she remembers FTL and the shock sends her into a heart attack. I know she is not a “major” character but she is one of those endearing characters that people will be sad to lose.
It would certainly be devastating for Ruby, but at end of Red Handed, Granny did say Ruby would inherit the diner and likely the inn. It would be conceivable for the writers to explore how Ruby adapts to taking over for Granny in Season 2.
It’s just that they way that the character is described is it has to be a main character Granny dying would be sad but it’s not throw my shoe at the screen frustrating that’s what everything’s pointing to.
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@mia wrote:
Another scene, another idea:
Emma with the sword swinging it around.
Everyone either thought it’s real or it’s a nightmare that Regina is having. After watching the promo I couldn’t wonder but think that it’s Emma having a nightmare. I mean, August seems to tell her he’s from FTL, she’s the saviour and we hear her say “I’ve got to save everyone????” Wouldn’t that make you have bad dreams?Ok but if your Emma and your saving everyone killing Regina that wouldn’t really be a nightmare would it?
@celesstarr wrote:
@hjbau wrote:
I was watching the promo again and Henry going off about Snow. I know that Regina is asking Henry to leave Snow’s class, but it made me worry for a second that Henry might give away who Emma is. I don’t think he will. I was just thinking be careful what you say Henry.
What if they kill Snow or Charming? That would be awful.
I agree. If for “major” character..they mean part of the regular credited cast…then if they choose one I hope they choose August. Anyone else I’ll probably be throwing stuff at the tv. 😯
According to Ginnifer Goodwin that’s where the went with it, someone dies that’ll make you throw something at the tv it’s gonna really make the summer long!
@PriceofMagic wrote:
@steliokontos1 wrote:
Well someone’s dying according to E-Online it’s gonna be shocking & according to Ginnifer Goodwin it’s gonna have us throwing stuff at our tv sets. Narrowing it down who’s death would really screw with us the most? ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓
For the death to be “completely majorly shocking”, it’s got to be one of the main characters, someone who we think is safe because they are a main character. The possibilities are:
Emma- Unlikely. She is the protagonist of the piece, all the other characters are either her allies, foes or, in Mr Gold’s case, somewhere in between. If we consider the show to be a story within itself: Once upon a time an evil queen cast a curse…..blah blah blah……fairytale characters lose their happy endings…..blah blah blah….. who can save them?…..etc. If we go with the theory that the show is telling a story in the style of a fairytale then Emma is going to stay alive and “live happily ever after” eventually.
Snow White/Mary Margaret- In the promo for the next episode Henry says to Regina “Snow White will have her happy ending” and we all assume that will eventually happen but if Snow White was to die, it would throw a spanner completely in the works, it would be so unexpected and would be a real what the hell? moment.
Charming/David- Similar to snow White, everyone expects these two to make it so it would definitely be interesting to see what would happen if one of them didn’t survive.
Rumpelstiltskin/ Mr Gold- In every Rumpel centric episode they keep mentioning he’s a coward and I can’t help but wonder if this is meant to be significant. A coward will always save themselves before others so perhaps Rumpel’s final act could be to save a loved one such as Belle at the cost of his own life. (on a side note, does anyone think Rumpel could also be the cowardly lion from Oz similar to how he is the Beast from Beautyand the Beast? Oz isn’t my strongest area of knowledge but wasn’t the lion cowardly all throughout the story, was considered cowardly by himself and others until the end where he became brave?)
Henry- Wasn’t the point of Henry to introduce Emma to what was happening in StoryBrooke. He will have served his purpose once Emma believes. He is Emma’s happy ending, to live “happily ever after” with her son. If he were to die, it would turn Emma’s world upside down again. Who’s to say his death would be caused by a significant event, it could simply be he runs across the road without looking and is hit by a car and die. There would be no purpose to his death but it would have an effect on both Emma and Regina. It would be out of the blue, just happens and everyone would be like “I can’t believe they killed Henry!”
Evil Queen/Regina- “Good will always defeat evil” but does Regina’s death have to be part of that defeat?
The season will end with one of two scenarios. Either:
The curse is broken but……….
or
The curse isn’t broken however….The question is where can the characters stories go after this season ends. This season is mainly based around Regina and Snow White so what happens if the curse is broken? Some characters like Rumpel and Regina need to go with a bang rather than a whimper. If Regina was to survive, what would happen to her? Would she remain a main character or would she be relegated to the sidelines? Likewise with Rumpel. Questions questions, so many questions!
Hmmm with that it kind of helps me narrow it down, I don’t think Emma will die you can’t kill the hero of the series when you expect to have a season 2. Snow & Charming kind of in the same boat & due to the spoiler pics & video I’ll say they’re safe. Regina now I don’t think it’ll be all that shocking her dying since they’ve beat that to death in the promos. August we’ve already heard he’s dying so that takes away the shock value. Now Rumple & Henry these are the two most likely possibilities Henry would have done his part his family will have believed by this season. Every where you go with this story you can go without him. It would be a big hit to Emma shocking they would go there, but I’m not sure it can carry the other factor of will it stick as much as Rumple dying. Rumplestiltskin has turned for me into a real anti-hero, I can see it shaping up to where he has to sacrifice himself for good. Also I think you can think of ways to bring him back if you wanted to and it’ll have us all debating for months whether it’s gonna stick or not. So yup right now I’m gonna say Rumplestiltskin will die in the finale!
@mia wrote:
That was funny but so scary! LOL Imagining Regina giving that machiavellian laugh in front of the school and everyone turning.
Would make convincing everyone that she’s the evil queen much easier lol
@rumplegoldfan wrote:
@hjbau wrote:
The criminal history is a juvy record and should not even be seen by the judge so that should not be taken into consideration at all.
Just as an FYI . . . when it comes to adoption (and that would be what would have to happen – Emma would have to adopt Henry even though she is his biological mother) there is no such thing as a juvy record not being taken into consideration. Every member of a household that an adopted child will be living in must undergo a criminal background check – including minors (over the age of 12 I believe – age may vary by state), and ALL criminal history must be disclosed. It’s been awhile since I went through all of this but I believe they even get into whether you have ever been arrested for something regardless of whether you were convicted. So if Emma is still living with MM, MM will have to undergo a criminal background check including fingerprints, etc. and she would have to disclose that she was arrested for murder.
Also as far as I can tell I don’t believe MM’s apartment meets the requirement for suitable housing for a child. There are square footage requirements which I’m guessing they would meet but I don’t think they have any actual bedrooms. A bedroom would be required for Henry, especially since MM lives there. No way is a social worker allowing a male child to sleep out in the open with a non-family member of the opposite sex present (because they wouldn’t know she really is a family member).
It’s amazing the hoops you have to jump through for adoption. We were adopting from a foreign country and they have body weight limits so that people who are overweight can’t adopt. You also have to go through physical exams and they are very picky about any kind of medical conditions and medications that are taken. If you are taking an anti-depressant, even if you have a note from a physician saying your depression is completely under control, you are out of luck – there is no way you can adopt from many foreign countries.
You also need to have at least 3 personal references from non-family members who have known you for a certain amount of time (in our state I think it was 5 years). Given Emma’s history of not putting down roots and not making friends I doubt she could come up with these.
Just a gut feeling I’m sure they’ll make it difficult for Emma to get custody but I don’t think those steps make for very good television so I’m guessing will see a simplified process. There’s plenty of other ways to make it difficult for Emma that’ll be more entertaining. I’m sure they’ll bring up the Julie record and MMs arrest but something’s gonna happen to accelerate the process. I’m thinking memories will start coming back before the custody war gets settled
@Riddleraven wrote:
There are some really good points in this thread. I didn’t realize the horse-looking figurine was a donkey but that makes sense if it is supposed to hint at Pinnochio/Lampwick. And Dr. Whale was back–there’s nothing weird about it because he was needed for Kathryn but it is significant if he is Monstro which is always what I’ve assumed. (Though they almost got me in Red-Handed because I couldn’t figure out why he was in that episode unless he was the wolf… but he was just a red-herring to keep us from realizing it was really Ruby) And man, they seriously had me going with the Bae-stuff. Especially the flashbacks. 🙁
These writers pull way too many tricks on us!!! argh! The only thing that makes it okay is how when they reveal everything you go, “Ohhh I see now!” If we ever don’t have that reaction to a new reveal–then it will be a problem.
Anyway, I’m against the Pinocchio theory. Some people are pointing out Wizard of Oz references that are interesting. Like all the emerald-colored things in this episode. *shrug*
I just don’t see why they would introduce a sub character from the Pinocchio story as a key figure? To me I like the way Pinocchio fits into what’s happened and what looks like is gonna happen. All the clues and spoiler clues point to Pinocchio
@hjbau wrote:
He most likely is Pinocchio based on what little we know now, but i just can’t get over it. Pick anyone. I want him to be Peter Pan.
Well after the switch that they pulled on us I’m not prepared to rub it in to you Pinocchio haters until we at least go a full episode with the same identity for August! lol
@hjbau wrote:
Those pictures are great. That is exactly how i feel. Throw all the hints you want at August is Pinocchio, but they just don’t look anything alike.
It’s the furthest thing from a sure thing but the hints have been there for a while Along with the spoilers and spoiler pics which still leave a lot open to speculation so I’m sticking to it. On Sunday well see for sure I wouldn’t put it past the writers to kill both the Bae theory & the Pinocchio theory in back to back weeks. However if my theory is right I will be creating a” He is freakin Pinocchio thread” lol
@romantic_sheep wrote:
Another heavily debated point that hasn’t been raised yet is Emma’s motivations.”And now, I’m going to take away someone you love.” I’m not disputing that she cares for Henry a great deal, but it doesn’t exactly make it seem like her sudden desire for custody is coming from a good, selfless place.
Anyway those are my thoughts. I’d be interested to hear from more people who have different opinions about all of this.
After seeing that scene more than once without the initial elation from seeing Emma actually say what she said her reasoning kinda did rub me the wrong way. I can justify Emma’s emotions at the time by her just feeling like Regina’s dangerous after what she tried to pull with Mary Margaret but in the end it comes off as her going after custody just as much out of spite as concern for Henry. I’m sure we’ll see her intentions are better than that in the end but just for that instance it came off that way. Like she’s gonna start this custody war with Regina to hurt Regina just as much as protect her son.
