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Since Colin sings very well, I like the idea that maybe he serenades Emma. He actually sings to her. Singing and dancing pirate. There was a very sexy CS fanfic I read awhile back called It Takes Two to Tango, and omg, I need Killian and Emma to dance the tango.
They have to find a way to work his singing into the show at least once.
Agreed!
I’ve always had this thought that Killy should surprise Emma by kind of taking “lessons” from Charming on modern day things like learning how to drive so he can get his driver’s license, learning about fine wines and dining from Rumple, etc. Then since he and Emma are the only ones who can leave SB I think he should surprise Emma by taking her on a date outside of SB – dressed in a nice modern suit to a fancy restaurant. He can surprise her by driving (I guess he would have to borrow a car) and then he could surprise her with his new knowledge of wine, etc. I think Emma deserves to get out of SB and go somewhere nice. It would be cool to see him want to impress her by learning about modern stuff so he could take her out to give her the “day off” she is always wanting.
This would work too.
However I’m not sure if Killian actually wants to stay in SB, or is more bound to returning to FTL (I’m not entirely sure which direction the show is heading there- they seem to have drop that question mid sentence- which is a shame since FTL is no longer the uber dangerous place she experienced before & I’d LOVE for Emma to experience it in its current ‘normal’ state before deciding on if she’d actually like for her & Henry to live there or not)- I know Killy wants to be with Emma either way & I REALLY want Killian to do something romantic with/for Emma while they are in FTL past (if it is FTL past they are actually in). It’d be nice for them to ‘have a moment’ (like they found in NL) to simply bond & enjoy one another- despite all the crazy going down around them lol
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General audience. The vast majority of the audience for this particular show who just tune in once a week for some simple fairytale escapism probably wouldn’t be up for something this twisty and complicated
Okay thanks. This is oftent the problem for me with Once. I have all these big ideas for where I think they should take the story and then is disappointed when they dont go so far. Surayya-
The way I understand what you are saying, is to make the consistent causal loop paradox work, you are proposing Emma travels back twice? …. Then is either stuck there forever after or travels forward in time back to the future (see what I did there
– sorry I just had to go there lol )No Emma always only travelled back ONCE, but in order for her to do it, she had to already have done it once before
lol I know its tricky but when you get it, it sort of make great sense in its own strange way.
Emma (her AR version) travelled back in time, to the day of the twister, from the AR. She makes the baby switch and as soon as she has done that, and Z Again is the baby that ends up in Oz, everything goes back to normal. The AR version of Emma seizes to exist And everything Z did was in vein, because we just go back to present day Storybrook, right after Z enacts her new curse (sends baby Regina back in time)- so because of what AR version Emma did, nothing really happens, exept baby Regina is lost in the time loop and now only adult Regina is left..I think what is confusing me is where is your AR version of Emma coming from? There is only one time line (consistent causal loop = only 1 time line- there is no AR or AU created with that paradox? ie. It is a chain of causes that closes back in on itself. A causes B, which causes C, which causes X; which causes A, which causes B, which causes C, which causes X, which causes A… & so on ad infinitum.
So you’d Have to have current Emma {A} travel back in time {B} (because she always did), switches back babies? {C}, then she’d be stuck there {D1} (in which case Henry looses her again, as does Snowing & this means it’s no longer consistent casual loop) or she has to travel forward in time, back to the present {A} & things continue on as normal- HOWEVER, Snowing should ALWAYS have remembered the events that took place in the past in EF when/ IF Emma & or Hook interact with them, Emma cant just simply cease to exist because there is only ever one version of herself in the constant causal loop paradox.
In all honesty I can only see Zelena doing time travel if she knows SHE herself {we shall call current day Zelena- Z1} personally will benefit from her efforts- I dont think she is generous enough in nature to give what she wants for {Z1} herself to another version {we shall call AR or Parallel Reality Zelena- Z2} of herself, as she {Z1}would still be missing out on the life she wanted. So for me the only paradox that makes sense is for the time travel in this case is the Grandfather paradox. So Z1 travels back in time to alter her own life, by stopping Cora from giving her up? & by doing so is born a commoner (as Cora wouldnt be able to marry a prince with a child in tow), dooms Regina to never being born, dooms Snow to never meeting her TL/Prince Charming, so Emma is never born, nor is Henry, Rumple is never able to cast curse 1.0, so never finds Bae, Snow never meets Red, Charming probably never becomes a prince at all & so on & so forth. So Emma & Killian travel back in time to try prevent {Z1} Zelena from changing the timeline & causing people to stop existing.
My biggest problem with all this is how on all the purple smoke curses in Once, do they manage to get time travel devices/curses to go forward & back in time???
If time travel was possible why would Rumple simply not have used that as an effective & straight forward means of returning to Bae 100’s of yrs ago?
Im not saying that the Emma and Hook we see in the AU pics are Emma and Hook travelled back in time. These are the new versions of Emma and Hook LIVING in the altered reality. So all the time, from the day of the twister, when Z was a baby and up until the day adult Emma goes back to set Things right Again, will pass during AR- meaning many years will go by in this AR, before Emma is able to put Things right Again and make the reality that we have seen since season one come to pass.
LOL! I’m so confused now! …Ok. The way I understand what you are saying, is to make the consistent causal loop paradox work, you are proposing Emma travels back twice? …. Then is either stuck there forever after or travels forward in time back to the future (see what I did there 😉 – sorry I just had to go there lol )
While this is creative and would make for great fanfiction….have you ever heard of the principal called KISS What you’re suggesting is so outlandishly strange (but creative, I’ll grant) that the GA would never go for it. You cannot take OUAT outside of its intended medium of TV and the proposal of a simple story about family and hope and redemption. What you’re suggesting belongs to the world of SciFi like Doctor Who with its infinite complexities of wibbly wobbly timey wimey. While I like the idea that Zelena wants the baby to replace her being sent to Oz, the whole “Snowing giving birth to Regina” part of your crack is only going to make the GA turn off the TV. Remember: KISS
I agree, which is why IF they go down this time travel road- I only want them to pick 1 & only 1 paradox & use it.
I can not see baby Regina being Snow’s child- that would mean Charming daughter hit on him & tried to kiss him in S2 & that is crossing the line for this show :/
I watch Continuum, which is all about time travel (I dont watch Dr Who after the dalek scaring the bejesus out of me as a kid- those thing were creepy lol 😉 ), but they’ve done there show in a very intelligent way, so they have been able to incorporate multiple paradoxes existing with-in the show & explained how this is the case- they follow strict ‘rules’ of time travel/paradoxes & it works- but Once isnt scifi, so I cant see the complexities of it working well for the show on top of the format it follows already- with Flash Backs/present day- then adding alter reality flash backs/ altered reality present day etc.
Since Colin sings very well, I like the idea that maybe he serenades Emma. He actually sings to her. Singing and dancing pirate. There was a very sexy CS fanfic I read awhile back called It Takes Two to Tango, and omg, I need Killian and Emma to dance the tango.
Yeah I like this idea, maybe either sail or horseback to a quiet place for an evening picnic (on a hill top as sunsets, would be nice), with a little serenade thrown in for full blown epic romantic moment purposes as the stars start to appear (& Emma’s reaction to him singing would frankly be classic) 😉 …. it occurs to me I have thought about this to much lol
Captain Hook in bowling shoes!!! I NEED TO SEE THIS!!!!! Yes!!
Bahahahahahahahahaha! That would be great to see actually- maybe we can try for some actual “fan service” & see if we can convince A&E to use it lol :p 😉
This is where I would have to use the she is the savior reason. I dont know how but for some reason Emma will either remember or learn what Z did and that Old Reality once existed, so that she will have to put Things back in order- she will want to get back to the reality in which Henry exists. Maybe it is something to do with the Hook Kiss? We also see him in AU, so they might be working together on getting thhings back in order. If Hook and Emma tricks Z into thinking, Hook has kissed Emma and stolen her magic (in This current reality) Z will start AU thinking Emma will not be able to hurt her, but because Emma didnt kiss Hook and still has her magic- this will enable her to remember “Old Reality”.
But Emma wont be born yet & neither would Snow & maybe charming for that matter- so the only way your theory could work is if Adult Emma & Hook (from current reality), travel back in time with Z, to try prevent her from changing the future.
Since we know Snowing are in the past Emma & Hook travel back to- Z must have gone back to the time of Snowfalls, so baby Z would already be an adult, have meet Rumple & been dismissed as useless to him.
If Snowing baby is Regina and Z takes her and sends her back in time via twister to the time of her own baby-Hood, they would be the same age.
Wait… so you are saying that Snowing’s baby is Regina- so that would make Regina both Snow’s step mother & daughter, Henry’s adopted mother, step great grandmother & bio aunty, Charming’s step mother in law & daughter, Emma’s sister, co parent & step grandmother???
Yep so it Works right?
Almost- I’m still trying to figure out away that it all fits into once paradox & not into contradicting paradoxes- ie it makes no sense if we have both the grandfather paradox & the Consistent causal loop paradox butting heads- it has to be one or the other- either you change the past to alter the future or you always traveled back, so the future is never actually changed from it’s current state, as you are just going through the motions.
So my big problem with what Z wants to do is that in effect Emma will never be born, Neal will never find his father, nor will Henry be born etc.
Also Z doesnt just want to be royalty- she wants Rumple to love her- she loves him, which is why he wouldnt use her for casting the curse, despite her being the more powerful witch- it was his heart she’d have to sacrifice. So if she wants to alter her own reality, it goes without saying she’d want Rumple to love/choose her too & that’ll annoy me- Rumbelle kinda deserve to be together for a season, if they get married & Z interrupts to change reality so she gets Rumple- I may actually legit cry! I’m not a big Rumbelle shipper, but how long can they keep a cannon TL couple apart?! Not to mention this plan of Z’s will be throw spanners into ALL the main couples on Once from Rumbelle to OQ to CS to SQ & she’s already sunk SF- in fact Z will have every once shipper of anyone ready for her head on a stick lol.
- Consistent causal loop (You can travel back, but you always did, so nothing changes. Ie. Any changes you make, you have already made, so the future doesnt change).
The only way I can see there being any point to time travel having any meaning for our characters is if they go with the grandfather paradox- so the characters we have now, travel back to try stop Z from changing the reality we have now.
Yes well that is exactly what would happen in the time-loop thingy I proposed. Z tries to change her past and her fate and ends up actually creating the exact history as it happened. She created the Twister, she ended up in!!!!
Yeah, I understand what you where saying now- I took AU, as just that- a distinct & separate reality from the current one, I think you meant altered reality, where we have the one reality that can altered from it’s current state, but not split into distinct alternate realities/universes.
What she wants is the life she feels she was suppossed to have, which Regina got instead of her. And that is what she would get in this AU. We wouldnt have two versions of everyone because as soon as Z is the baby that grows up with Cora and Henry and Regina is the baby that goes to Oz the reality would be the different one and the characters as we know them would be erased and instead be the other version of themselves.
But Z is older than Regina, so how would you take that into account in switching them?
Okay maybe we have a different understanding of Alternate Universe/Reality. I mean that Z creates a nother reality and erases the one we have seen on the show up till now. Emma, being the savior, somehow uptains the knowledge of the Old Reality, maybe for some reason she will be able to remember.
But Emma wasnt born until much later than Regina & Z so why would she have anything to do with anything?
Edited to add, saw the rest of your replies after this- for some reason they all came up jumbled into one big quote when I 1st saw it o.O
So got you on this one now. Emma travels back in time.
