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surayya
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2×05 – 4×05: such progress, two season afterĀ Ā
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http://emmafoundtallahassee.tumblr.com/post/101368207131
http://emmafoundtallahassee.tumblr.com/post/101289566576
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ParticipantHaha, I’d been waiting for someone to do a CS vid to Shake it off & finally, someone has š
surayya
ParticipantPersonally I think Rumple simply considers Milah & Killian to be true love, as it sort of lessens the blow of her choosing to run off with a pirate if itās TL. I dont consider anyone to be TL until I see it confirmed either by TLK or A&E tell us they are TL (neither of which has happened for Milah & Killian, all A&E have said is they loved each other, so yeah.)
I agree that Rumple saw them as True Love (and said he didnāt reliase the power of True Love before). And seeing them is where he got the idea that True Love could be used in the curse. All he had to find was the epitome of TL and we get that with Snowing. Hook himself called Milah his first love, but he obviously loved her so much he was willing to spend hundreds of years trying to find a way to avenge her. That sounds like true love to me. If Charming is to believed TL is hard to come by and worth fighting for. Killian has fought for Emma, he didnāt really *have* to fight for Milah, but thatās not to say he didnāt love her any less. Heās a very passionate pirate. When he falls, he falls hard!
I dont really see it as an act of TL, I just see Killian as being very loyal & passionate to boot š Plus most of hisĀ 300yrs was spent in NL looking for away to kill Rumple & stay alive. I believe they truly loved each other- I’m just not sold on it being “TL”.
In all honesty itĀ doesnt bother me if they were TL, I just dont think they were, as we havent had it confirmed. A&E confirmed Daniel was Regina’s TL (a number of times if I’m remembering correctly), so I would have thought they’d have simply said Mialh & Killian were TL if that was the case,Ā when they spoke about them, but they didnt- they just said they loved each other, so thats what I’m basing my opinion on atm š
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http://thejeweloftherealm.tumblr.com/post/101092341423/requested-by-scapeartist
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http://heroswans.tumblr.com/post/101287325232
You can almost smell the development.Ā Ā
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http://sheriffswan.tumblr.com/post/101267232824
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surayya
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http://captainswaan.tumblr.com/post/100948508202/i-mean-does-this-even-need-a-caption
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Activate over-protective Dad mode. Status – COMPLETE
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Captain Swan & Snowing + cute little kiss on the cheek
http://the-captain-vale.tumblr.com/post/101286995682/captain-swan-snowing-cute-little-kiss-on-the
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http://notjustfairytales.tumblr.com/post/101284393270
surayya
ParticipantIād actually really like to know how much Emma knows about Hookās past. I really think she does know exactly who Milah was, both from the scene in Baeās old cave in 304 and because sheās not an idiot. Iād like explicit confirmation one way or the other though. Other than that though, I have no idea what she does and doesnāt know.
Me too. I agree, she must know who Milah is in relation to everyone else. They looked pretty awkward in that cave when Baeās mother was mentioned. She obv knows he lost his brother to Dreamshade (Charming told her that). I doubt she knows he was abandoned by his father ā unless Neal told her, but I doubt it. Whether she knows he was an upstanding member of the Royal Navy, who knows? Charming must have that sussed though, he recognised the insignia as military, and Hook said his brother was his captain, so two and two should equal four on that. But you know, Charming can be pretty dense sometimes.
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Thatās something Iāve wondered aboutā¦we had Rumple say several times in āThe Crocodileā that he could see that they were True Love, and while I wouldnāt take his opinion on love as gospel, especially at that point way before Belle, we did see that each of them was willing to die to protect the other, and that seems like pretty true love to me. *Shrug* I guess it comes down to whether someone can have more than one TL in a lifetimeāalthough really, Hook has had like four lifetimes so I could believe that he had two TLs 300 years apart, haha. Obviously I think he and Emma are TL though regardless, and Iām really hoping we see proof of that by the end of 4A. *fingers crossed*
I agree with the Emma isnt stupid, she must have put 1 & 1 together considering all the hints (these are just off the top of my head & are only between Emma & Killian as those are the oonly ones I can recall pretty much word for word lol)- 2×06 Emma say’s to Killian “Gold, Rumpelstiltskin, heĀ took more than your hand from you didnt he. That’s why you wanna kill him.”
In 2×16 When Emma is talking to Rumple & Hook comes in, stabs him, then says “You took Milah, my love, my happiness & for that I now take your life.” Then Emma KO’s him with a trash can (LOL), asks Rumple if ‘he’s alright’, Neal comes running down asking ‘what the hell is going on?’ & Emma replies with “One of your dads enemies found us”. Neal responds with “Hook” & Emma asks “You know him?”
In 2×22 “And Straight On ‘Til Morning”- Emma tells Hook Henry’s father is Neal & Hook responds with “Baelfire”
In 3×01 Emma & Killian talk about Bae/Neal on the Jolly Roger. Hook says “You know, Bealfire & I once spent a lot of time together.”
Emma “He was always Neal to me”
Hook “yeah, right. This was his *hands Emma Bae’s cutlass*”
Emma “I didnt realise you were sentimental”
Hook “I’m not. I just thought you could use it considering where we’re going. To fight”
Emma “Thanks”
Hook “To Neal” *raises glass*
Emma “To Neal”….
Emma “How long was he(Neal) with you?”
Hook “Long enough for me to know I miss him too”In 3×06 in Baes cave-
Emma “I cant tell yet. I didntn know he liked drawing”
Hook “He got it from his mother” *Emma turns to look intently at him*- IMO, the look on her face here is when she clicked who Milah was in relation to Neal & Rumple as the camera swings around to show her reaction to these words & IMO- there’s a reason for doing that.
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Emma “You knew him pretty well didnt you”
Hook “We spent some time together”Then you have all the 3B Killian & Henry references as away for both Henry & Killian to remember & grieve for Neal.
Personally I think Rumple simply considers Milah & Killian to be true love, as it sort of lessens the blow of her choosing to run off with a pirate if it’s TL. I dont consider anyone to be TL until I see it confirmed either by TLK or A&E tell us they are TL (neither of which has happened for Milah & Killian, all A&E have said is they loved each other, so yeah.)
I have to admit, I dont know how A&E are going to pull off OQ…. I mean I already really like Marian as a character in her own right, so will be very disappointed if they kill her off. I want her to get her HAE, she deserves it- esp if they are going to split such an iconic couple up (& I’m not even a big Robin Hood fan). I’m not opposed to OQ, as I know it’s going to happen whether I like it or not š I just hope A&E sort the mess out in a tasteful manner, rather than just offing the third wheel :/
surayya
ParticipantI can kind of see how some people mightāve preferred for it to be Emma herself or Emma with her parents or Henry, but personally Iām not going to complain about getting adorable CS scenes.
I dont actually have a problem with it at all from a shipping or story perspective- it makes total sense for Emma to open up to someone who isnt part of her painful past IMO. Emma knows why, understands & forgives Snow, Charming for givingĀ her up etc. but that pain is still there from her childhood & even Henry is a part of that painful past- it doesnt make sense at this point for them to see howĀ emotionally painful her past is to her again- they did that in S2 & S3 with Henry & Snowing- it makes zero sense for her to open about her past to Regina, since Regina caused it all to happen in the 1st place, Elsa may have worked, but she’s more worried about finding Anna atm, so that leaves Killian as the only other person who Emma trusts & is not in anyway involved with her painful childhood/teenage years. Also I think when we consider it was supposed to be Killian who Emma opened up to/ admitted still feeling like she was an orphan & always would be, in NL & they (rightly) decided to change it to Snow, that it was time for Emma to open up about her past to Killian- it just fits nicely within the narrative & will help drive drive the angst train when the poop hits the fan about the Killian/Rumple debacle.
And I know Iāve said this before, but based on Nealās various introduction episodes, I find it hard to believe that he was supposed to be Emmaās happy ending. First we see him leave her pregnant and in jail for his crime in āTallahasseeā and learn that heās the one who taught her never to trust anyone. Then the first time we see them interact in the present, Neal (a) yells at her for bringing his father to him, (b) literally laughs in her face when she points out that he abandoned her like Rumple abandoned him, and (c) makes demands about being in Henryās life when Iām pretty sure he gave up any paternal rights he mightāve had when he left the 16-17-year-old girl, with whom heād had unprotected sex, in prison for his crime with no way to reach him. Any time you have sex with someone, you have to know that there could be a baby (even if the chances are very small depending on contraceptives). When you know that, and still leave the person with whom you had sex with no way to contact you, surely that is knowingly surrendering your parental rights.
Agreed 1000%
But like I said, I suppose weāll never know, although Iām going to take A&E at their word when they say theyād planned it. We do know of one instance for sure where they changed their plans for the show because someone wanted them to, though. Ahem.
Are you thinking Belle or Charming here? Or have I missed something lol
surayya
ParticipantOK, I had to bring this here to The Happy Haven (grin) because I love the great humor that this fandom embraces!! The fandom āduring the last ten seconds of OUAT 4Ć5ā³ (and because I have a special place in my heart for SIGNS~ inspite of crazzzzy Mel)
(courtesy of joury4.tumblr.com)
*snort* BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
It’s probably is very close to the markĀ though lol š š š
surayya
ParticipantOverall, I did kind of see this episode as A&E basically telling the fandom āyeah, we hear you!Ā SHUT IT!!!āĀ haha.Ā The criticism thread for the episode discussed whether the episode could have been considered baitingā¦Iām not sure Iād go that far, but I do know when I was watching Emma/Regina scenes thinking the SQ ship must be having a field day, Hookās comment to Will about his relationship with Henry as the writers putting anti-Hookers in their place regarding Capt Cobra, etc etc.Ā I think I was amused by it for the most part, personally.Ā I wasnāt sure it was the best idea, because Iām assuming there was a lot of āfeedbackā after the episode, and frankly, people are going to think what they want to think and see things they want to see at this point.Ā (I did see somewhere someone saying Hook looking at the photo of Emma & Neal and his reaction being his realization that he and Emma would never be together right now if Neal were aliveā¦.definitely not sure we were watching the same show, that fan and I because I saw Hook looking at Baelfire and feeling all of the pain and complicated emotions he has for Bae flood to the surface, but maybe thatās just me.) ~~~ Of course, I loved the CS scenes we had!Ā I love how, now that Emma and Killian have both admitted to themselves & each other how they feel, now comfortable they seem to be with each other.Ā Itās wonderful to see Emma opening up more and more ā Iām hoping, now that she and David seem to have established a nice balance, it happens with Snow.Ā I was both amazed and not surprised (if thatās possible!) when Emma brought out her box of childhood possessions and shared them with Killian.Ā Iām glad there was a pic of Neal in there, and Iām glad we got to see the pain both Emma and Killian still feel when reminded of him.Ā (Because while I donāt think for a second Emma was even contemplating resuming her relationship with Neal, both she & Killian did care for him in their own waysā¦.I wonāt bring up the fact that she bailed on one date and got more than a tad fancified for the other as an example of that opinion or anythingā¦tee hee)Ā And I was glad to see Grahamās shoelace was back after being removed for the date.Ā To me, going through her past, seeing the photo of Neal, after her date with Killian, really drove home the concept that Emma is not forgetting about or letting go of her past; rather, sheās looking at the memories and momentos and instead of only seeing the pain, sheās finding the positive.Ā Again, amazing character development for our girl.Ā I can only hope that Killianās identity crisis that I would assume will occur, and his recovery from it will be as well done. Ok I just realized this post is about 1.5 pages in word (yeah, I type them out there now before posting, lost too many with a flick of the wrist typing directly in the forum!Ā Ha!Ā So I will bow out.Ā Continue with the pretties, Surayya, I love seeing them!Ā And Iām loving the discussions that have come up ā youāve given me lots to think about! ahem ā and our pirate is really the only man alive that could get away with that shirt.
Agreed
surayya
ParticipantI love Once for the joy it brings me & the angst I obviously love to go through too lol š
I love also the amazing costumes- I dont do dresses/skirts, but damn! Some of EQ, Snow’s & Snow Queens gowns I’d kill to be able to pull off.
I LOVE the music of Once- Its amazingĀ & I still love to listen to the CS & Snowing scores daily š
I Love that Once brought me Emma Swan & a dashing pirate/version of Captain Hook I could finally fall in love with š
I also Love that it brought me my OTP Captain Swan- heaven help me, I never knew what a “ship” was before Once lol, but the pleasure I get from watching such a beautiful romance/love story unfold in such a beautiful fashionĀ is immense š
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