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Alright, I have to get a response to this off my chest. I haven’t barged into any other threads to defend Emma, Hook, or any of the real people who I’ve seen actually bashed there, but I do feel the need to defend Emma here and point out why I find the current treatment of Regina troubling. Anyone who wants to keep the positive vibes going, feel free to skip.
Was tipped on about the current discussion, and coming to read the last few posts has me like:
@Epona, I don’t normally come in this thread, but I heard there was some Regina/Lana Bashing going on, and I just had to see it for myself.Was going to give a very long comment, but decided not to. All I’ve got to say is that…Evil Regals have never, and will never turn on Regina or Lana Parrilla. SO….I don’t know what you and @Suraya read, but I can guarantee it wasn’t written by an Evil Regal. And if they say that they are an Evil Regal, but are dissing The Queen and Mama Regal behind their backs….do so tell them this:
Every Evil Regal on Twitter, Facebook, Blogs have cheered Regina on for taking a stand against Emma in the last episode, as we understand that she had a lot of anger and frustration that she needed to get off her chest, and we’d appreciate it if you cut her some slack. If I could…I’d list every tweet here from Evil Regals from sunday night, but it’d probably take up the whole page! So I’ll leave the link to this one reviewer who said everything any loyal Evil Regal would say!
And for any other Evil Regal/Regina/Lana Bashers….this woman/character rakes in half of the viewings according to several polls Spoiler TV and others have had. And anyone who continues to slander Regina or Lana Parrilla’s name simply because they hate the character, or just simply doesn’t like that the show is making an effort to make a hero out of a villain who thanks to outside parties(Rumple and Cora), never stood a chance at being good in the past….then (look below)
I try to give the benefit of the doubt when people want to jump and bash Regina, but not Lana….like, just no! You can’t bash an actress whose just playing her part. Lana Parrilla is making the best of what they’re writing for her character, and Regina is just trying to find her own happy ending. Now that my little rants over…carry on dears.
Okay, first of all, I wasn’t “bashing” Lana–I said that I was uncomfortable with what she said and that put me off this episode. I’m not, you know, sending her whiny or offensive messages on Twitter, or writing any hostile “open letters” like some people do on a regular basis to Jen or A&E. Also, I’m not sure what polls you’re talking about, but I know I haven’t heard of them and I’m sure they’re not exactly scientific. Regina has had minimal screen time in the first four episodes of the season and the ratings have been fine; this most recent episode was the lowest-rated so far and it was heavily promoted as the Regina episode. (Of course it really wasn’t a big enough difference to draw any conclusions, but I’m just saying.)
Now about Regina–first of all, I prefaced my post with with a warning not to read if you didn’t want to see negative things about Regina, and there are reasons why I posted here, and I apologize for the bluntness but honestly one of them is because you WR, as someone who hates CS, aren’t in here (another is because my main problem with Regina in this episode was her horrendous treatment of Emma, who is one half of this ship, and unlike with other shippers, most of us actually love Emma for herself rather than just seeing her as a prop for someone else’s happiness). As I’ve said before, I like actual substantive debates and I’ve tried a few times to have this discussion with you before, but you (and any other hardcore Regina fan I’ve spoken with) never actually have any concrete responses to what I’m saying.
This little post here is a great example of what usually happens: I post screenshots and actual quotes from the show; the Regina lover makes vague claims but has no substantive argument to counter what I’m saying. And I’m not sure why you’re pointing out how other “Evil Regals” feel about this episode…I know how they feel about Regina, and since apparently child abuse, rape, mass murder, torture, wrongful imprisonment, and tyranny aren’t a problem for them, I’m pretty sure literally nothing she does could change their/your minds. I honestly have no idea WHY anyone is so crazy about someone like that; to me what Regina has done over the course of the show is simply indefensible, and she sure as heck isn’t acting like she’s changed one bit and literally stated she regrets nothing. Although actually I would think the “Evil Regals” would want to see the Evil Queen come back. She’s an interesting villain, but as it stands now the ridiculous whitewashing and watching her victims apologize to HER just makes me sick.
I do have to admit I would prefer they at least have had Regina express some guilt or remorse over what she has done to someone- anyone, BEFORE they decided to go down the Emma/Regina friendship road- as it will be hard to sit there & accept Emma being friends with a women whom has done the things you’ve already listed above, who has also said she regrets no of it :/ A single sentence/line of dialog, would be an easy & effective way to show growth in Regina, while making it easier/more acceptable for Emma fans to accept a Regina/Emma friendship, if you know what I mean.
[adrotate group="5"]Oh, Surayya, my Pretties Queen, I ADORE the visual fall-out of your rightful anger over insignificant, tantrum posts from the outlands!! (grin)
Especially this:
and this:
this:
and this!:
Having been a first wave original fan of Han and Leia from the sassy moment they gloriously burst onto the big screen back when the Force wasn’t with any of us yet and a Wookie was something my toddler niece called her favorite blanket…I have, likewise, been willingly and joyfully sucked into the wonderful world of Hook and Emma ever since they took the first climb into life together on the beanstalk!
Still unapologetically love it. Still don’t give a flying fireball who disagrees and care even less for pompous killjoys no matter where they post or how vociferously they pontificate (pffft) their views.
To lady, surayya, Epona and all the passionate CS’rs…HERE is a Safe Haven, not a Hate Haven. Ignore the hounds of patronizing hate and butt-inski discord. They don’t fit in here, belong here, have value here…and never will.
But by all means, let the VISUALS continue!!!! We relish that kind of *mad*ness.
Hehe- I LOVE how CS is totally Leia & Hans in fantasy mode 😉
& yes, you are right, here is our little slice of forum paradise & anyone who doesnt like that, doesnt have to join us 🙂
Hehe- the visuals shall continue later this evening & maybe some vids too 😛
The beautiful CS scenes from 405 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6P7m5mixvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP7WVK4CYyk
Some CS vids to detox the thread:
http://the-rollyjoger.tumblr.com/post/101097973938/id-love-to-know-more-about-your-beginnings
http://montanarosalie.tumblr.com/post/101115818249
http://herotypes.tumblr.com/post/101221043885/the-soft-way-she-looks-at-their-hands-together
http://emptyicee.tumblr.com/post/99573825008
Currently giving me feels: The way she closes her eyes in his embrace and doesn’t open them until she hears the new voices on the home movie. She was just sitting there, eyes closed, letting herself just have this moment, letting him in, letting him comfort her, just letting him be there with her b/c that’s who he is to her now. He is her moment of rest, of calm. Where it feels safe and at home. And I’m never going to be okay againnnnnn.
http://the-lady-swan.tumblr.com/post/101228906435/currently-giving-me-feels-the-way-she-closes-her
#lmao#he literally went from threatening someone#to flirting with emma#and even kissing her on the cheek in less than 5 seconds#amazing (✿◠‿◠)
http://signyx.tumblr.com/post/101201223216/no-youre-afraid-afraid-to-talk-to-reveal
http://signyx.tumblr.com/post/101201223216/no-youre-afraid-afraid-to-talk-to-reveal
http://ivernasolo.tumblr.com/post/101224409412/pirate-and-princess-parallels-1-8
http://ivashhkovs.tumblr.com/post/101232944022/hook-and-emma-breaking-glass
Can we talk about how Emma and Killian are literally the cutest ever? Can we do that? Please? Cause I’m still not over the fact that he kissed her on the cheek and she let him inside her walls to show him her childhood. Can we talk about this please?
#he thought he couldnt be any more in love #until he saw his swan as a little duckling #and now hes probably thinking of making lots of little bespectacled pirates with hair like sunshine with her someday #and now I’m emotionally unstable
#tell me again how he doesn’t love her #tell me again how she wants nothing to do with him #tell me again how they represent anything other than moving beyond the past and loving unconditionally #tell me again #and i will call you a liar
http://carmi-believes-in-love.tumblr.com/Currently giving me feels: The way she closes her eyes in his embrace and doesn’t open them until she hears the new voices on the home movie. She was just sitting there, eyes closed, letting herself just have this moment, letting him in, letting him comfort her, just letting him be there with her b/c that’s who he is to her now. He is her moment of rest, of calm. Where it feels safe and at home. And I’m never going to be okay againnnnnn.
http://the-lady-swan.tumblr.com/post/101228906435/currently-giving-me-feels-the-way-she-closes-her
I wish I could find it for you- I tried searching using Adam & Eddy’s names between 01-05-12 & 31-05-12 but there is a lot to go though (if you use google- type in the key words of the interview you are looking for- hit search- click on ‘search tools’ – click “Any Time”- in the drop box, click “Custom Range” – type in the date ranges- Click “Go” )
In the mean time- Here, have a Killian 🙂
http://dashingrapskillian.tumblr.com/post/101205032772/dashingly-grinning-you-into-an-early-grave-a
ok- I’m officialy p…ed. I had have enough of Hook hate all over teh forums. Thought about posting in other threads- but whats the point- hook is always the one to blame- for everything. And once is going downhiil becouse of him, blablabla. I’ve camo to this forum becouse I’ve read greate disscusions here and I was hoping to partake in them, but now. And there is this in the topi of CS being “forced” and not planned from the beggining: http://boyfriendhook.tumblr.com/post/74692828627/captain-swan-is-she-going-to-have-a-love-interest If someone could find the actual link to the actual interview in may 2012, I would appreciate it. I vaguely rember it, becous I’ve had this conversation with my husband back then. I was like: what is with the lack of love interest for a main character in a TV show about love and fairytales? So he googled it, and I remember I wasn’t convinced, becouse of”villain”. Then he had told me that Hook will be a new character. And I was like:” What? I hate Peter Pan”. The irony is I love that “villian’s” love story now.
If people are saying they werent planned from the start they are delusional & thats straight up, because Adam & Eddy have already said point blank they planned CS from the beginning.
1) They couldnt get the rights to Peter Pan in S1, so Hook wasnt in SB & was instead introduced in S2 when they got the rights.
2) Colin was made a regular weeks before the Crocodile even aired, so there was ZERO fan pandering as no one had even seen him on screen lmao ( http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s181/once-upon-a-time/news/a410227/once-upon-a-time-colin-odonoghue-made-series-regular.html#~oU4du7SIGdAkSv )
3) Adam & Eddy had planned CS from the beginning ( http://www.tvfanatic.com/2014/05/once-upon-a-time-producers-tease-struggles-of-redemption-a-shock/ )
I’m still searching for the may 2012 interview- but the tumblr post has hotlinks to all the different sources of those quotes- so it maybe from a number of interviews rather than just one 🙂
