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@obisgirl wrote:
A list of DVD features for the 2nd season are out. Hook has a special feature 😆 😆
Sincerely, Hook – Set sail with Colin O’Donoghue (Killian Jones/Captain Hook) and learn more about the man behind the hook.
AWESOME!!!!!!!! Cant wait- will have to order from Amazon or something as no news yet on Nz release dates 🙁
[adrotate group="5"]@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I’ve found myself getting very upset the last couple of days because we’re supposed to be a family. We’re ONCERS! And I leave this thread being all happy and full of hope and I venture elsewhere and all I hear is “get over it” or various actors ship SF or “you’re delusional” – it’s very upsetting and I have to come back here to remind myself that we are not crazy and there are real things to hold onto and we just have to let it play out.
We won’t be able to prove anything on either side to anybody until Emma actually CHOOSES one over the other. As much as we can hold on to moments earlier on in the season, until she knows that Neal is alive and sees him again we’ll just have to be patient and ignore the constant hate thrown at us from people who scream “but Neal’s still alive!” and of course my favorite…”take that CSers, Hook will ship SF” *cough* mumbles something *cough*.
Agreed, That’s why I haven’t really ventured out of the “safe zone” & when I do- I do not mention CS at all & avoid the SF ott posts 😉 I really don’t need my reasons for loving the show so much ruined by ott haters.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Neal being alive is not a hindrance, it gives us legitimate status when she makes a choice. I would be shocked if there isn’t at least a little bit of a triangle because she should have some emotion over it and goodness knows Neal will be upset because he interpreted things differently. Add in the Hook & Bae dynamics of before and of course there’s going to be some drama.
Exactly.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
That being said, being alive is a status of being. Choosing to go back to her when nobody ever has is a choice. This show is about hope and family and choices and learning to eventually do the right thing.
Yes & If A&E don’t point that out out next season (it bugs me no end that it wasn’t pointed out during the podcast- I wish the presenter was less biased with her interview- it was VERY Rumbelle & Bae heavy despite it being a hookcentric episode! & it would have help stop most the CS haters from poo pooing us 🙄 ), I’ll be a very unhappy camper (It’ll be ok if it all comes out later on though- I just want it said & acknowledged on the show, It was an important 1st for her & Snowing need to see & accept that as well- Snow risked her own life & FOLLOWED Emma (her daughter) into the portal, so she wouldn’t be alone; Hook risked his own life & CAME BACK to Emma (the only one he feels something for), so she could do the ‘hard/right’ thing)- Neal’s parallel is that he keeps leaving her (jail time- portal), but unlike Snowing, he gives up- it will be interesting to see if that changes in S3 (Hook doesn’t).
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Now, I do agree that Emma’s LINE about the necklace in Manhattan was probably just what popped into her head to defend herself against Neal’s comments because she clearly is still hurt by Neal (which explains why she left Hook up the beanstalk in Tallahassee). Hook’s necklaces I believe he had before Milah so those aren’t really reminders of Milah but probably something else, but they do both wear special necklaces *for whatever reason* and we’ll probably learn that eventually. Kindred Spirits indeed.
Agree with this 100%
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
The truly interesting thing I came to realize, was that twice this season Emma has tried to have some form of closure: first handing Neal back the Swan necklace, and the 2nd being letting go of him in the portal scene. They were both VERY emotionally charged moments, and she does have lingering feelings from the past which is understandable.
A&E have outright said, she still love, loves him, so I think we cant belittle those feelings. It doesn’t mean they will work out as end game though (& at this point, that’s the last thing I’d like for them to do TBH! I understand why people want SF, I do- but with everything they’ve rammed down our throats as being true love, NF doesn’t fit- it just doesn’t!)- but she still does love him. I watched The mentalist recently & a line 1 of the characters said popped out at me – something along the lines of “Who doesn’t remember their 1st love? You never forget that & those feelings never go away- it was your 1st time loving!” That is very true & Emma has Henry, the most important thing in her life, which she has to share with Neal. A&E have also said, if Henry didn’t want a relationship with Neal, he wouldn’t be in her life- nor would Regina….Henry is the thing tying her to these people NOT her own choices! SF fans forget all the stuff they don’t like in favor of their ship- we (in here) tend to look at everything & see the reasons for & against, so can be a little more tolerant.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I do think Snowing will have more issues with it at first, but as much as Emma loves and needs her family, they better than anyone should know what it’s like to be told to be with someone they don’t love (perfect Daddy!Charming / Emma bonding moment *mumbles something about Charming not wanting to be like King George* – would make a nice parallel back and could be in an ep with a confrontation about King George and/or Emma could simply say “I’ve read your stories. I lived out the Mary Margaret & David Nolan drama when you thought you were married to Kathryn. You more than anyone should understand how I feel. Why can’t you just want me to be happy?” That …would be awesome.
Like! That would also be a very cool moment.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
She’s held onto that swan necklace for so long and worn it presumably every day, even after she spent time in Tallahassee looking for Neal and she GAVE IT UP. She handed it to Neal – split second decision to give up something that has been a part of her for over a decade. Something that has meant a lot to her and she gave it up without even having to think about it (and we have never seen her mourn not wearing it either, at least not that I can remember).
She did think about it- it took a hell of an effort for her to give that “ideal” up- it hurt her a lot to let that necklace go & she wavered over giving it up- she was so devastated by that whole series of events- I really felt for her, it represented the only one who had loved her because they wanted to in her whole life. I personally think that’s what makes your 1st love so special- it’s the 1st person who really loves you, that doesn’t HAVE to love you- they choose you & for Emma that was the 1st person & time in her life, she had felt loved at all all rolled into one.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I realize she still has the car.
Honestly I don’t see the car as a biggie- Why would you give back the only thing allows you to go from a to b for starters, it works well & it’s not like she could sell it & replace with a better car after all. Nor is it like she freaks out when it’s been beaten up or anything- it’s a car, a place for her to sleep etc Those beetles go forever too 😉
As for what the actors think & feel- we need to take what they say with a grain of salt. Ginny knows SW & MM inside out, so yes, has insights into her thoughts & feelings- she doesn’t have insights into JMO/Emma’s thoughts & feelings, so however one actor/ess may feel about another’s character is irrelevant, unless backed up by Adam &/or Eddy (like Hook & Emma’s connection/understanding of one another for instance or Henry being the most important thing in Emma’s life period- E22 proved nicely that Emma hasn’t really let either of her parents “in” yet as well).
In short I think the harder SF fans deny CS as a possibility, the more they feel it could happen & being so aggressive is their way of protecting their own ‘threatened’ ship. I just hope that A&E don’t take nasty/ott fans as a reason to do SF or CS. I just want Emma to be with someone who will do right by her *cough-Killian so far-cough* & allow her to love & be loved like she deserved- she’s been through crud loads of stuff for everyone already, she deserves happiness without doubts of her own (like Snowing- if nothing else, they know they will always love each other).
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@Surayya wrote:
Reading between the lines of this interview http://onceuponatime-fans.com/season-2-2/kecks-exclusives-once-upon-a-time-loses-its-little-red-to-cbs It seems the Neverland stuff is a whole new idea, conceived during beginning S2 😯 Could it be what (I think it was) Kat or was it obsgirl, was referring too- in Hook being made a regular early S2 maybe!?
Actually they confirmed multiple times that Hook was supposed to be a main regular from the get go but because of rights had to be placed on the shelf in S1 and saved for S2 but if you watch S1 there are many hints towards Captain Hook. 🙂
I know, but the whole NL plot seems to have been cooked up DURING early S2 NOT S1- they changed their plans on how the show would move forward & that didn’t include Red/Ruby, once NL storyline was locked- So after making her a regular for S2, her story was totally shelved, Snow, Emma brought back to SB sooner than originally planned so they could move on with the new NL arc. That was the point I was making, as someone else had already said something along the lines of Hook becoming a regular early in the season …this could have been why. I firmly believe we’d have had heaps more Hook if Colin hadn’t of broken his leg & maybe we’d have left S2 with much more of a triangle than we did- it’s just the way things played out, so he was crammed into the last 2 eps (you could see the poor guy’s heavy limp a couple of times), so I guess we are lucky to have as much of Hook as we did considering 🙁 Cant wait to be graced more often with Hook/Killian & CS interactions in S3 though 😀
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I’m not sure about this. I think magic replenishes itself after awhile. The BF said Regina would be ok with rest. I don’t know if there is a way for someone to completely get rid of their magic, except for the case of the Dark One no longer being the Dark One. Magic is learned, but it’s also a part of people. I think Regina needs to willingly give up her magic on her path to redemption.
Exactly & if something drastic had happened after stopping the fail safe- it would have been mentioned. It’s like Rumple’s dark one curse- it’s death or true loves kiss (both breaks of the curse are pretty epic). It’d suck if all it took to break the dark one curse is, say braking the knife- anyone could do that, esp if there’s no threat of death etc hanging over their heads- it’s a whole lot less interesting if BF or Emma can just wave a wand/hand & poof no more dark one curse 😉
Ok, so I’ll go ahead & admit I burst out laughing with an image of The Shadow saying “Hook; I am your Father” 😯 😆 😆 I’m such a nerd.
Pretty sure Hook was telling the truth when he was speaking to Bae- he’d already started to form ‘he & Bae as a family’ plan once he knew who Bae was & didn’t willingly give up on it either- according to A&E, despite the lost boys being there about to board the ship, he’d have simply fought them off, if Bae had said yes to staying, it was what Hook truly wanted.
Favorites:
Pretty much all Hook stuff- Finally we got the back story & added depth of what is a main character. Also loved Emma’s “we understand each other” line 🙂 Hook holding Charming back so as to live another day…. 🙂
LOVED Emma’s “Mom,Dad” line in the mines, as well as all the Charming family stuff in general.
Regina FINALLY “getting” it….. If she turns around & goes all EQ on their backsides 1st chance she gets, I will be one unhappy camper & be banging my head against the closest available wall……again! 😉Least Favorite:
UGH! The whole ‘fail safe cant be stopped’ blah, blah thing- I hated the fact it was so easy for that whole thing to be resolved after making such a BIG deal out of it…..I know why they did it, but seriously!? I mean all it took was 2 people with magic (1 not even trained in its use) to stop the flip’n thing! …. The very least they could have done was made it something epic- a big sacrifice- anything to stop it. I mean couldn’t have BF easily stopped it (she’s meant to be the most powerful being in the EF after all & it’s not like they haven’t used her as a convenient plot device a million times before 🙄 ) That whole time Regina could have said, yeah it’s easy to stop the fail safe, I just need someone with magic to help me- It’s Regina, she’s usually made out to be impulsive & not thinking things through, rather than a total idiot 😕 ), it’s not even like either one was drained of magic or anything drastic happened after the impossible was made possible 🙄 That whole plot really bugged me.Welcome aboard AmyRose, as obisgirl said, you’ve got plenty of CS shipmates 😉
As others have said your English is fine 🙂Agree Jasmine- esp given the concept art for Emma that has turned up 😉
@steliokontos1 wrote:
Just got a vision for the opening shot for season 3 based on that drawing :). Imagine a close up of the lense of Hook’s spyglass so we’re all made to think it’s Hook but they pan back to show it’s really Emma holding the lense and she’s dressed in an awesome pirate outfit now with Hook standing behind her and he tells her something like… “I told you before you’d make a hell of pirate”
So this is how people start wrting fanfics lol
That would be so awesome!
Another point to reference- we started the show with Neal- Emma’s past (Ep1) & ended it with Hook/Killian & Emma looking for Henry – her future 😉
Reading between the lines of this interview http://onceuponatime-fans.com/season-2-2/kecks-exclusives-once-upon-a-time-loses-its-little-red-to-cbs It seems the Neverland stuff is a whole new idea, conceived during beginning S2 😯 Could it be what (I think it was) Kat or was it obsgirl, was referring too- in Hook being made a regular early S2 maybe!?
With their Skate references wouldn’t that just back CS up more tho…. (unless I REALLY need to go back & watch Lost again 😕 ) Jack & Kate weren't 'together' in the beginning, just attracted to each other & they fought it (Like CS), Kate went to Sawyer- who she could relate too, Then to Jack who she was scared of having a relationship with because of who she could be with him. Or are they thinking Jack = Neal & if so, how so? The way I see it is Kate & sawyer had the 'dark' past's- sure Jack had one too, just not quite to the same level. Jack is supposed to be the good/lighter guy & paired with the darker girl (like Sawyer was the darker guy paired with 'lighter' girl)- in our case, it's the good/lighter girl (Emma) with the darker guy (Hook)- not (supposed) good/light Neal with good/light Emma. I want Neal/Regina to happen (cause there's no one else around for her yet)- she needs someone to “be” light for, yes she need's to want to be good, but she needs a reason to “stay” good & who loves her for her above all others- she cant get that from Henry- he loves both his mothers & his father, & rightly refuses to 'choose' one over the other in love. At the end of the day they ALL want the same thing- love & family to love & be loved, I hope they all get it 🙂
Totally agree with you on Neal/Sawyer portal/helicopter parallel.
