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Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Agreed Obisgirl! And love your Han Solo analogy!
Neal regretted everything and waited to NOT go back to her for 11 years!
Hook regretted it and went back in mere minutes!One would have had nothing to do with her had he known who she really was
The other admires the woman she is today and appreciates her for it and he CAME BACK FOR HERLet’s think about this, shall we?
Exactly & could maybe account for some of the uber CS hate π
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ParticipantWas just watching the Alice in Wonderland promo & init this fantastic gem of a line, caught my attention- it totally parallels CS & SF (I’ll spoiler tag it just in case)
Alice”Good?”
Cyrus “I just mean that you are not separated from you love, that'd be a terrible fate”
Alice “The proof is for my father, he thinks I'm insane”
Cyrus “So you are risking your life for someone who doesn't believe in you?! When you really love someone, you Don't Need Proof; You Can Feel It“
Doesn’t this totally foreshadow CS π πOh & the JR makes an appearance too π
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151385468283204surayya
ParticipantLol Loved this

I agree Kat π & I hope I can get the software sorted out too- think I’ll have to use WMM for the 1st couple, but it’s sooooo sloooooowwwwwwww & limited, not to mention the quality is really poor at the best of times π Maybe after I’ve fixed the truck’s doors & brought my baby her new saddle, I’ll look into SVP more (I just gulp at $400 on software, when a saddle is $800 lol π )
surayya
Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
With all my CaptainSwan feels and looking around at various videos I was reminded of this quote from last season when MM is scolding Emma in An Apple As Red As Blood. This whole conversation was MM scolding Emma and telling her that she is a better person now than the person that she was and she needs to stop trying to revert back, going so far as to say:
Mary Margaret: “And running is what’s best for him? Or is that what’s best for you? You’re reverting, Emma, into the person you were before you got here; and I thought you’d changed.”
Sure sounds like she doesn’t want Emma to revert back…right?? (Snow currently keeps glaring at Hook but I so want this thrown back in her face when it comes time for Emma to defend her relationship with Hook.)
Oh yes, that is an interesting catch.
Objectively I understand why Snowing haven’t done much about Neal (now we’ve finally had an awesome Hook ep lol π )- aside from being Rumple/Darkones son, he is Henry’s father & they don’t know him from a bar of soap really- I don’t even think Emma has told them EXACTLY what went down between them either- other than they broke up badly & she got hurt. So I could see Charming ‘doing’ something to address it, or telling Neal something along the lines of ‘don’t you dare hurt her like that again & if you think you will, back off now’, if they did find out.For all Hook’s bad actions he hasn’t gone out of his way to hurt her, he has given as good as he gets ie. If you don’t cross him, he wont cross you- Neal has (even if he felt he was justified for doing what he was doing- he allowed her to go to prison for his crime, he allowed her to stay there & he never looked her up afterwards- not to mention all the smirks etc after Tamara turned up & everyone saw Emma still had feelings for him) ;).
I too see all the parallels between CS & Snowing, SF, Rumbelle & RumIah (stuff typing out Rumple/Milah every time these parallels are discussed & I get the feeling it’ll be more often now- they were married & had a kid, they can have a merged name too imo π ) At the end of the day I think Emma has been used/sacrificed enough. Let her have a man who is so bound by honor & love (*cough*Hook & Charming*cough*), she can move on with life & put the past in the past.
After all, what’s the old saying “Women marry men who are similar to their fathers” π Hook is far more Charming than Neal has been shown to be & Emma’s past choices in men (including Neal) has been guy’s who have qualities with which she was then familiar- in other words, behaviors values & attitudes which she learned growing up (For her those involved being not good enough to be loved, being abandoned etc)- many of her core behaviors, attitudes & values are changing, now she has her family back, will the temptation to go back to what she knows still be there- of course, but she is growing & changing from who she was & she need’s someone who wont judge her on her past alone, her actions stemming from it, or on who her family is- so far that’s Hook.
surayya
Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Just wanted to share this with you guys cause it’s an incredible video and shows so many of those intentional moments that they’ve been using to set us up for CaptainSwan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSvqnPIf-AI&feature=youtu.be
So many feelings I can’t stop watching it! It doesn’t have every moment ever but it does have a LOT of the history from Tallahassee and how it’s similar but with a different outcome in And Straight On Til Morning. Absolutely Brilliant!
I LOVE that fanvid π – I DL’ed it yesterday (while trying to upgrade my horrid video software- looks like I’ve either gotta spend $400 on SVP or use WMM π‘ π ), but my internet cut out (water on the line), so I couldn’t post or get back on line until this morning π
surayya
Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I was literally JUST looking at that Obisgirl! (I’m addicted to tumblr now – so many friendly CaptainSwan people supplying pictures and ideas!)
There’s another one, I need to find it that shows Emma’s nursery and points out that there are 2 pedestals in her room with things mean to watch over her: a knight’s armor and somebody wearing a pirate hat….
That drawing is certainly interesting….Hook always says she'd make an interesting pirate but wow! I bet it was scrapped because they wanted her to be more real world to start off with and then they were having issues getting rights to use the Peter Pan mythology but WOW! She does look good in the coat even in a drawing…what are the odds Hook gives it to her to wear for real sometime??
I may have to reconsider the magazine (I still don’t have one).
Really?!?! Tumbler here I come – although the mag could be the easier way to go… it’s just so expensive to get a copy here, with the exchange rate & postage π
Quite frankly that’d be AWESOME π I like it πsurayya
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
so, this scan is from the first OUAT magazine. if anyone has the article to accompany it, I’d love to read it.

Emmaβs original character design as seen in page 81 of the first OUAT magazineβ¦ Pirate Swan?!?!?!?
The coat definitely looks familiar π π
I LOVE YOU GUYS! That just made my day- definitely CaptianSwan in every sense of the word π Sooooo I’m gonna join Tumbler now if this is an indication of the gemstones hidden there π
Another thing worth pointing out in favor of CS, is A&E wanted Hook in there from the word go (it was only rights issues that kept him out)- they considered changing Henry’s father from Bae when pretty much the whole fandom had guessed it was Bae (as soon as Bae portal jumped- most of us had guessed it to be cannon), why would they even consider changing Bae being Henry’s dad, if Emma & Henry’s dad are supposed to be series ‘endgame’- it doesn’t make too much difference (over all), if they aren’t truly series endgame tho now does it π
surayya
ParticipantOhhhh I do hope Killian gives Emma sailing lessons at some stage during S3- at this point he’s the only one there who knows how to sail the ship & he needs his rest too after all π
surayya
ParticipantDefinitely π & it also gave me some ideas for fanvids as well π
surayya
Participantok- so I did actually laugh out loud at the last point in that tumbler thing- it’s sea folk humor π (it was very well done other wise)- but they really should have asked someone who knew something about sailing & yachts (in this case a Ketch) before they posted that little bit, as Emma is holding onto a boom while the mainsail is down- she isn’t steering anything (the boom runs off of the mast & is only drives the ship forward when the mainsail is up & catching wind), she’s just holding on like all the others in those scenes π
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