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@Phee wrote:

@Surayya wrote:

Question- Has A&E said there will be another big death in one of the last 4eps? Or are we assuming this from the promo’s? I was just wondering if the death they referred to at the beginning of the season, was in fact Cora.

They were recently asked if there’d be more death before the season ends, and Eddy said, “I hope so!” I’m in the camp who thinks it will be Granny.

Regarding the book, there is absolutely no way they’ll let that point drop without telling us who wrote it, and how MM got it in SB. Absolutely no way. It’s far too significant to the overall plot of the show. Whoever wrote it had to have witnessed the final moments when Charming put Emma into the wardrobe. IMO, Blue is the only one who may have been present there who we didn’t see. She would have gone back to check that The Saviour got away.

Oh, that’s right- I forgot about that, thank you 🙂

I agree, it’s far to important to leave out & A&E promised (o.k, so that’s stretching a little 😉 ) they’d tell that story.
Yep, It has to have been Blue & the fairies who wrote the book (I’ve been singing that song since S1 lol), I just want the details of how exactly she got it into MM hands- my no.1 theory is she enchanted it 😉

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Ok, just had (another) crazy, crack pot, theory thought- What if Blue & the fairies smuggled the book out via pixies or even a certain pixie who would probably be introduced next season given the last to titles of S2 😉
August could have then planted it back in SB.
But I’m not sure how said Pixie would have got the book out & still had the very final moments of the curse written- unless they wrote them in….

Question- Has A&E said there will be another big death in one of the last 4eps? Or are we assuming this from the promo’s? I was just wondering if the death they referred to at the beginning of the season, was in fact Cora.

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@HappyEndings wrote:

Yes, I agree it would be good to know who did it. I just hope it isn’t going to be another pothole. 🙁

That is not allowed to happen! I am going to pretend I didn’t just read it 😉

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@LaurieAnne wrote:

Very true, HappyEndings. That begs the question, where was the book written (and when?)? Was it written in FTL or in Storybrooke? If it’s older than Storybrooke, then how did it get there? Regina only brought what she wanted to bring in the curse. It did not seem like Regina knew about the book at all. Could it have been smuggled into SB by some one (like August) who perhaps had been there before? I really really hope it is not August because we will never get to see him explain everything in present day Storybrooke. The story would be told in flashbacks only. But it would still be good to know.

As I said above, I’m pretty sure the fairies were putting the book together & either enchanting it to go with them or to send it through before the curse actually hit.

I think Regina only bringing what she wanted, is actually “who” she wanted, as Gold has been collecting magical FTL artifacts for like 28-30yrs now…. I want to know how he found them 😉
If she was picking & choosing ‘what’ to bring, she’d have kept the fairies wands for herself, as well as Rumples dagger etc & there is no way the glass coffin would have turned up in SB either, yet it did & she looked surprised to see a piece of it & was very much afraid of anyone finding more of it.

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@LaurieAnne wrote:

I kind of think the Blue Fairy wrote the book because the story of Bae was in there and she is the only one who was there for that (besides Rumple). It has to be someone magical (like a fairy or other magical being) because they had to have lived for hundreds of years in order to get info on all the stories. If Rumple wrote the book, I don’t think he would be as honest about his role in all the evil that he did. I think he would have tried to justify it in some way (“You tell yourself you did the right thing”) Besides the BF, of people that we already know about, I have no idea.

I agree & have been saying since last season that I thought it was Blue or the fairies collectively, who wrote it & it is also what they were doing (or arranging) before the curse hit- maybe they enchanted it so it would go with them, maybe they had enough portal magic to send it through on its own- Blue knew Rumple was looking for the curse to take him to our world, so she should have had some idea on how to get it here.

We know she didn’t send it through with Pino, because 1) He only had the clothes on his back & 2) She told Gep, Pino couldn’t go, as Emma had just been born & would need the guidance of her mother or father.
Blue & the faries are the only ones who have been around long enough & with scope enough in magic, to know what is going on were & with whom at any given time.

For the reason you give, Rumple didn’t write it & besides he didn’t have his memories back until AFTER Emma arrived & I cant see him being able to write & illustrate Snowings story right up till the curse hit, with Charming being stabbed in such detail given what we know of his ‘sight’ while in prison 😉 – so Henry had had the book for approx 1yr already.

I think it most likely it came across with the glass coffin etc- Gold had been ‘collecting’ magical artifacts from the word go by the looks & it came into his possession, then MM brought it (or the book came across & she found it, or Blue gave it to her).

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@HappyEndings wrote:

Question: Since we are almost done with the 2nd season, do you think we will ever know who wrote the book that Henry has? Epecially since the Dr and Tamara wasn’t in it so why would he need it now? ❓

I have been wondering the same thing- Adam &/or Eddy did say we will find that out, they also said we’d find out what the fairies were up too just before the curse hit (they didn’t say which season we would find this stuff out in though 😉 )

Unless we are meant to assume August wrote it…but for me, I;d want to know, how he knew about every single characters story & in such complete detail.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Don’t wanna start a new thread but here’s a new TVline spoiler!

More scoop on Once Upon a Time! Thank you! –Laurel
No, thank you for this generic request that allows me to plop in whatever nuggets I wish. “We said at the beginning of this season, ‘Magic is coming and it always has a price’ — and we’re going to see that at the end of this season,” series cocreator Eddy Kitsis told me. Leading up to that in these final four episodes, “We’re going to see a new chapter in the Rumple/Belle story that we’ve never seen… we’re going to see an Evil Queen and Snow White story that we’re excited about… and we’re going to get some backstory on Baelfire and Captain Hook. You’re going to see all the core characters front and center.” And just to be crystal clear about Tamara/what I shared in last week’s Spoiler Alert! webisode, here are Eddy’s actual comments on the matter: “She is a person from this world. She is from America. She is not going to be revealed to be someone else,” he attested. “For us what was interesting was, with the curse gone, what happens when the outside world comes? Who has been looking for this place?”

http://tvline.com/2013/04/18/bones-ncis-arrow-smash-csi-spoilers/

YAY!!! On the CaptianFire (is that what MRJ called it???) backstory. 😀

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@HappyEndings wrote:

Question: Do you think Bae let Hook out before he came to Storybrooke? ❓

I 2nd the nope- If he didn’t free himself (he’s resourceful) or get some random to free him (we know he’s charming), then I firmly feel it would have been Tamara (Hook cant be mistaken for anyone but Hook & that could be how GOAT know about the beans, how they work & Neverland) & that’s why we see GOAT asking him to join them.

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@KFChimera wrote:

@obisgirl wrote:

Maybe Emma thinks Neal is in league with Tamara and Greg.

I could see Emma thinking maybe Neal is supporting Tamara's anti-magic agenda, but the part that throws me is “and Greg”. She may not be the sharpest sheriff on the block but if she knew Tamara and Greg knew each other, she is going to channel Rumpel in Manhattan. “You two know each other.. You two KNOW each other…..” And more importantly for this thread, how is Emma going to react to Hook working with Tamara and Greg? Or does he turn them down flat, or betray them at the right moment ? Do you think Hook would hurt Regina/put her at risk, and would Emma care at this point if he did? What if he saves Regina?

You have just articulated almost all my thoughts about this subject lol
I’ve matched font colours in response, so I don’t have to break up the quote & have black boxes everywhere 😉

Hard to say without context- it'll depend on whether or not she knows he's back in town & if she & he know at that point, what GOAT have in store for Henry or not I guess.
GOAT & Hook, are the one part of the episode I waver back & forth on- due to the same questions you have stated- I cant help but remember his sullen expression & demeanor in the cave when the girls got locked in Rumples cell- he wouldn't really look at them- esp when Cora pulled out the heart- which would indicate he wasn't entirely comfortable with what was playing out at that moment, but it was his only way to get to Rumple & get back at Emma, so he was having to take it.
I just don't know at this point if he will simply 'buy' into what Tamara/GOAT is selling without proof (I hope not considering Cora & Regina have just used him) & that could be where Regina enters (Owen could take her by surprise & knock her out with the taser), as a demo to prove they can kill/take magic (I'm hoping at that point they try to take it to far, he backs out, taking Regina & snitches, if he hasn't already turned them down flat). Concerning Regina, She would do Hook more good alive than dead- she blames Rumple for her mother's death as much as Snow & Hook has already stated he doesn't kill unless he has too, so I'm wondering at this point, if when Hook raises his hook, it's to free her of bindings or something…. it's not like he killed Emma for leaving him up the bean stalk, so I cant see him killing Regina for following her mothers orders either….but maybe that was just because he 'genuinely likes' for Emma…..hmmm, darn it now I'm 2nd guessing that part as well 😆
I think how much she'd worry about him killing her, would come entirely down to context, she doesn't (that we know of) think less of Snow for taking out an evil, bent on her families deaths/destruction women- who was Henry's step granny 😉 Personally I don't think Emma would be overly worried herself, either way (but CaptainSawn would be a much further reach, if it was cold blooded when she is defenseless) but Henry loves Regina & still wants her around, so that is what she will fight for- If Henry let her go, it'd be all over red rover I think

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@CrownedWithLaurels wrote:

Considering Adam said it in March, it would be closer to The Queen Is Dead, not the curse breaking.
Ihasn’t been that long In the show from then til Selfless Brave and True, so its still been “roughly a year”. If they’re going to show it or even mention I guess they still have time. But I don’t think it is necessary. Would be cool though 🙂
I’d love to get a K&H approved timeline 😀

I know that is what is confusing me tho-
Henry = 10 in pilot episode- I’ll have to go back & see if he states his age late in S1, to make sure his 11th birthday wasn’t in S1 (it just seems weird we’d not have seen/heard Emma at least acknowledge it though).
Henry says he is 11 a couple of times early S2.
A&E say it’s been approx 1 yr since Emma arrived (less than a mth ago)
Henry having a birthday late S2 = 12 (if it is real).

Yes, an A&E approved timeline (even if it’s just the main plot points) would be fantastic… wonder if enough fans asked really nicely, they’d include it in either the Dvds, the site or even as an unlock-able game thing on FB- kind of like they did before leading up to S2. 😉

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