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surayyaParticipant
Geeze, I was re-watching ep 3 (I think) where PC traps SW after she steals his jewels & I noticed just how much Regina/EQ has really messed with her head (for a change Subtlety) as she was growing up!
She tells PC true love doesn’t exist 1st off.
Tells him royals are basically heartless bullies (this also fits with what she tells grumpy etc).
Marriage is Only about gaining riches ie business transactions & arranged marriages.
There’s no such thing as love at 1st sight or 1st kiss.I knew Regina would have messed with her while she was raising her (I guess I just took it for granted that she would have taken opportunities to mess with her mind), but this really shows the lengths Regina went to ….. SW’s views are really set in this episode & despite her feelings she does fight them hard (like we see when red drops off her food), she also hesitates when PC offers her his arm to help balance while crossing the log etc.
I would like to see a little more of SW childhood with Regina as well as Emma’s in foster care/teenage stage as they may have had very similar up bringings when all’s said & done 😉[adrotate group="5"]surayyaParticipantI didnt mean the curse would be broken in the final- I said they’ed gear up/ set up the circumstances for the curse to be broken in following seasons – they could get a couple of seasons easily out of good vs bad trying to break the curse, as so far we have only had Henry (& now August) trying to get Emma to believe in the curse NOT break it yet & been introduced to FTL & the main players (we’ll continue to meet more FTL folk as the seasons go on, they’ll just probably either know who they are, be trying to remember or simply be useful to the plot) 🙂
Then they can have a few season of trying to get back to FTL or adjusting to life here the possibilities are endless there – but either operation cobra needs to ramp up (so they know who’s who) or finish so the next phase can begin – working out how to break the curse…. At least that’s my opinion lol 🙂surayyaParticipant@Ms. Pixie wrote:
and latter on, back in FTL, a huge battle between good/evil, whoever they are (because I’m not sure that the end of the curse will mean the solve of all their problems…).
Im beginning to wonder if FTL was indeed wiped out by the curse (I hope not!!!!) & that we’ll see the final battle gear up in the final for S2 then S3 will probably be how they all cope living in our world & trying to build lives without magic (thats gotta suck for the kings,Queens, Princes & Princesses of FTL 😉 ) or even better (this is what I would want to happen) them trying to get back to FTL again but having to deal with the bad guys &/or as well as good guys that wanna stay here! This would keep Emma at the center of the story arc, as she’s the only one who truly understands how the real world works 🙂
surayyaParticipant@ritakish wrote:
11. Will Regina ever be redeemed?
Maybe. She’s a bitch and what she did was pure evil but this show is all about love and forgiveness and I’m 90% sure something will change Regina in some way. And then, she’ll try to make up for all the things she did. Whether she can be redeemed or not is beside the point, I just think she needs someone to have faith in her.
Lol I wouldnt want to be that person – she killed the last one off who had faith in her 😆 😉
surayyaParticipant@purrlisse wrote:
Doesn’t anyone feel bad that out of ALL the characters, Regina is the only one that CANNOT have a Happy Ending? no wonder she’s bitter…
Also the mad hatter, and Rumpel may find a way… cause belle is alive, and the mad hatter did go into the hat at the end of his episode… but Regina lost the stable boy… and then her father… she really has nothing else left!
Im picking she can have a happy ending in our world- much like Rumple can, as there’s no magic for them to wield, they just have to choose to let go of the past & look to the future… & that’s the kicker for Regina – letting go of her hatred so she can have happiness & true love again.
I mean if the curse is broken, its effects on her will be broken as well so she will be able to feel again I suppose & may even then see/feel the effects of whats she’s done.
The producers said she was bored in SB – she didnt really think what she was doing through very well when she enacted the curse- so she enjoys playing with Emma when she comes to town etc. But to me Regina isnt even close to ‘pure evil’ in SB – she’s as trapped & devoid of happiness as everyone else (with the added bonus of a hole inside herself that cant be filled) & not one of her plans has been more than meddling until Gold stepped in & basically handed Regina a step by step guide to getting MM framed for murder (just so he could get Emma to believe in the curse I think) & even after that fails, Regina behaves more like a kid caught in a lie by convincing someone else to take the fall for her.
She could just kill David or Emma or Henry if she was still truly evil to hurt MM, instead she comes up with halfhearted attempts at meddling & gets almost nowhere, sure David & MM arent together but thats more David being an idiot than Regina’s ‘genius’ 🙄 plans- infact her plans usually have away of bringing them together 😆surayyaParticipant@steliokontos1 wrote:
@mia wrote:
Yes! Of all the characters wo don’t remember, MM, Archie and Ruby are the ones who that have grown closer to their real selves. Funnily enough I think Kathryn’s SB character is much nicer than Abigail in FTL. I only want her remembering Frederick, but please don’t change back to that nice, but a bit snobbish Abigail. 🙂
Yeah each of those three had to go through something that allowed them to find their true selves. I have a feeling that this next episode is where David will get back to being more like his Charming self. I know how it looks in the preview but I think it’s a mislead. It’s time for Charming to be Charming again lol
Totally agree with everything here as well – Step into the light David…..you know you want to lol 😉 After seeing MM become more SW in that clip, Ive finally decided she’s my new Favorite character – since Graham died I havent had one as Emma’s been too inconsistent of late & Ive gone right off of August lol
I really want to like Regina (& man oh man has E/Q got style!!!)- she’s been through a lot, but oats! she makes some darn stupid off the cuff choices! & she has shown herself capable of faking concern, love & probably the full range of ‘good’ emotions – so I just dont know with her if she’s been genuine or not lol.
I’m still waiting for her to do something even remotely selfless for Henry so I know there’s a glimmer of hope in there somewhere lol – thats next on my wish list 😉Ive been editing my OUaT vids to put together an actual FTL timeline as it’s shown to us, but some of my file formats are off- so have to look for different copies & my gosh its a MASSIVE job- I now have a tone of respect for editors!!!!! Just pushing to get it finished before Ep 21! if I can find the formats I need 🙄
Im so looking forward to this wks episode since the spoiler for it came out (wish this one had aired before the return lol) 😉
surayyaParticipantIm like those above – the way Emma talked about him seems like she’s protecting not only Henry from him but herself too. She also told MM to trust her, dont get involved with a married man, so Im thinking he must have been in a position of power (of some kind) over her & used that to his advantage (very likely he was married) & she ended up taking the fall for it or something, as the guy must have done something REALLY off for Emma, who desperately wanted a family of her own (she said shes been searching for her family since she was a kid), to not only not tell him she was pregnant & cut all ties with him, but also to tell Henry he’s dead & so ensure he wont ever go looking for the guy either.
If he was just a bum, loser or petty thief, all she’d have to do is look him up & find out where he’s at (its not like she doesn’t have the skills to do so) in order to see if he’s changed his spots or not- yet she choose to end ALL association with the guy, that’s not something you usually do on a whim.surayyaParticipantBut next week's episode title and synopsis make me lose hope.But then again, last week’s episode was entitled “The Return” and had the image of a motorcycle riding through the woods in the opeining sequence. But did anyone return? No. Was the episode truly about August? No. So, I’m hoping next week’s episode title and synopsis are all just red herrings and we’ll find out at the end of the episode that he’s actually someone else.
Im with you on this 🙂 I have fingers & toes crossed for a whopper red herring 😉 .Ive started to go off of August now, just because it’s looking so likely he’s Pinno (I read Pinno as a kid & HATED! him- he was an obnoxious pratt that just wanted to do bad things- even Walt Disney couldnt stand him & so gave him a personality transplant to try make him more likable), so I now cant help but see a kind of off or greedy intention whenever he pops into the story.
I do think Ep 20 FTL story looks interesting tho, doubt it’ll make me a fan of Pinno or his story in the long run, but miracles can happen lol 😉 Pinno not = August would help a little lol :psurayyaParticipant@charming wrote:
I believe rumple said, “only she can break the curese. get the child to safety…….”
Have just been editing for FTL timeline & Rump’s never actually says to SW/PC “She can break the curse”, here’s a transcript of the conversation:
Snow “what can we do?”
Rump “we cant do anything”
Snow “who can?”
Rump “that lil thing growing inside your belly” …… Hand slap from PC …..
Rump “The infant is our only hope, get the child to safety & on its 28th birthday the child will return, the child will find you & the final battle WILL BEGIN!”So it seems Emma is meant to get the ball rolling for breaking the curse, but seems Rump’s is indicating more that she will be there to start & fight in the ‘final battle’. At this stage I think the actual breaking of the curse will be someone else’s actions rather than Emma’s per say (she’s the instigator & will get them to the point where they can do what they have to do, but its their actions not Emma’s that actually break the curse) if that makes sense.
surayyaParticipant@Midnight Dreary wrote:
Wow. The Pinocchio story actually looks pretty interesting. If the writers play their cards right, it can turn into a brilliant story.
+1 to that 😉
Loved the MM promo!!!!- Finally she’s standing up for herself & becoming more SW like….felt sorry for Regina (at least in this scene lol) as she seemed to be shocked, not by the fact that MM stood her ground, but by what she said about Regina’s motives for doing it.
David/Regina promo – Im still patiently waiting for David to grow a clue re Regina- just wanted to reach into the screen & shake him when he paused on the way out & changed his mind about staying for dinner- I know its the curse & he thinks its all innocent, but Seriously, is he really THAT thick???? argh! & Regina, well obviously because MM tells you she forgives you & doesn’t hold a grudge, you just Have to try seduce her true love/hubby- talk about not thinking things through much – how the oats did she get known as EQ in FTL, when every plan to take down MM/SW & PC has failed in SB as well???? Im honestly starting to think Regina has gone soft & is loosing her evil edge in SB lol
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