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surayya
ParticipantOk…. I think my brain is working enough to type my thoughts on the ep 😉
my brain still in meltdown mode 😉
1st up- Fantastic episode! Loved it! 😀
The writers have outdone themselves with every episode to date! This season rocks so far & the ratings seem to be proving it.Awww, Henry’s ok with Emma dating Captain Hook & giving her that little push forwards, to go ask Killy out was a very cute touch- Emma’s nervousness at what she’s about to do is very endearing 🙂 <3
Goes to show how little down time there is in SB, when Killy’s 1st thought was ‘SnowQueen search party’, as Emma walks in lol.
Love how we get a close up of Killy’s perfect darts aim, then him not just missing his target, but missing the dart board entirely in favor of bouncing the dart off of the wall a meter or so away, when Emma totally takes him off guard & asks him out- equal parts sweet & hilarious right there lol- He obviously was expecting Emma to back away again, because he was NOT expecting that invitation LOL 🙂 Love their banter…esp now with Emma being softer & happier than we’ve ever seen her before… it almost makes her seem younger than she is – unless the makeup department is going all out on ‘youthful glow’ these days (See what I just did there 😉 ). I love that Killian not only puts a smile on her face, he lightens & relaxes her as well- it gets me in the feels every-time. Killian accepting Emma’s invitation, as long as he can plan the evening- chivalry & pirates- hot mix that 😉 *dying of feels*3parts No, dont do it Killy!, 6parts Darn you Rumple! & 1part Awwww, for the killy/Gold Pawn shop stuff.
I did LOL at Killy’s reaction to Rumple’s warning (I had the same reaction if I’m honest, along with ‘Ummm Ohhhh Kaaaayyyy- didnt he go “dark” AFTER Rumple murdered Milah & cut off his hand lol). Again, gotta take a moment to appreciate the brass set Killian has to push Rumple again! I admit, I kind of lost the plot for a moment- I was sitting there willing with every fiber of my being for Killy NOT to listen to Rumple’s mind games… for him to fully believe that Rumple was just messing with his head… Before I came back down to reality …. *pauses to slowly die of feels* as Killy relishes having his hand back again… for Emma… to hold her with 2 hands….. *Hyperventilating* …. *Looses it* Darn you Rumple for screwing with his head UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shady Rumple is Shady & hasnt changed one bit by the looks UGH! (Ok, so he might have…a little- he didnt turn Killy into a snail & squish him- but of course, he couldnt get away with that…. so maybe he hasnt after all *sigh*). I knew it was Not going to end well- Darn it all Killy, WHHHHHHYYYYYYY?! *sigh*
I can feel the CS angst machine winding up & getting ready to put all us CS fans through the grinder …… aaaaaaagain.
*Takes a moment to die of more feels*, as Killy truly was happy to have both hands again …. for his Emma, his love ….. *dies* (Oh, by the way- there’s lots of dying lol!)LOVED the reactions to Emma’s dress- perfect & priceless …
Snow’s “Wow!”
David’s “What your mother said”
Elsa’s “Is that just the corset, where’s the rest of it?” lol
& Emma’s “This, is the rest of it” was FANTASTIC- perfect Charming family moment right there <3 Snow’s random photo taking, Snowing’s joy at seeing Emma so happy *Squeee* Then Charming’s reaction to Killy’s knock on the door & his 2 hands, is just beyond cute! (kind of makes me wish I had my Father growing up). Emma’s nerves & vulnerability were just perfection, it’s wonderful to see her embracing being so happy for once 😀 I’m not sure if I’m gonna die of fluffy Charming family feels or at how happy Emma is … Or both- both works 😉Ok warning- extreme fangirling & lack of coherency for the next paragraph (I kid you not, this almost came out as a bunch of random letters- still not over this next bit)….
Attempts to push through the fangirling CS feels *hyperventilating* Emma’s reaction to Killian’s new look ……….. Nope cant do it ….. alshkjrgfhsadjas;jghflsjf;ahdf’dj …. OMG……… *FeelsGlandExplosion* ….. *Squeeeeee* ….. Ok …. *CaptainSwan Feels goes into warp drive* ….. *slaps own face* …. pulling it together in 3, 2, 1 …. *types as fast as possible*
Emma’s reaction to Killian’s new clothes ….. OMG- that was just…just…. wonderful- Emma surprised into speechlessness & literally taken a step back by her Killy (& Snow’s reaction was almost as good lol), Killian’s softly awed expression as he tells her she looks stunning, his cockiness over how well he did with his new attire, given Emma’s reaction lol. I melted when he hands her a single rose, with his hand *pauses a moment to dwell in blissful CS feelings* I LOVED how Emma didn’t even notice Killian was handing her a rose with his hookside/hand, because she really doesn’t care if he has a hand or a hook, she loves him no matter what! I totally got a ….little….. emotional there as my feels glad exploded *Emotions, emotions flying everywhere!* <3 <3 <3
Then Killy’s “The DO really has changed” speech & I was internally screaming “No! Dont tell them that, Killy! What are you doing?!” happened & thats when I got nervous for the rest of the ep LOL.
I love Snow grinning like the cat who got the canary in the background during the whole thing- the Charming’s were pure Gold this episode lol.Lady & the Tramp Nod- cute!
AWWWWWWWWW- Killy getting Emma’s chair- he’s always a gentleman (Oh, yes- I just did that 😉 ) Loved the banter & Killy with his pirate swagger on is Hot, Hot, Hot! *Needs to take cold shower ASAP* (He really doesnt ‘need’ the hook anymore IMO- I think the pirate outfit is more “Hookish, than the actual hook anyway).
I didnt like his downplay of Emma’s SQ puddle worry, but get he wanted her to relax & just have a good time, Not dwell on everything that could go wrong.
Totally shouted “Damn it Will!” at my Tv when he disturbed Emma & Killian’s date. Killy’s reaction had my CS & Hooker heart breaking- I could hear the gears of the angst machine growing ever louder & more menacing… Killian’s reaction to his grabbing Will like he did *sobs* It actually took Emma reaching out physically, taking his ‘new/old’ hand, to snap him out of his intense horror & worry about grabbing Will- he even missed Emma choosing him & their date over chasing after Will- that was a big deal for her!
I dont know how the writers do it- but I’m still equal parts fangirling at the perfection of #CaptainSwanDateNight , Crying for Killian & his shock over his hand, as well as bursting with Emma/CS feels that Emma chooses Killian & #CaptianSwanDateNight over rushing off to be sheriff.Killy & Emma outside Snowing’s door… Emma wearing Killy’s jacket was just the perfect little touch (seriously Killy should give lesson on this sort thing to modern day guys!) & he showed her such a good time, that she forgot to worry about being the savior, the sheriff & pondering the new big bad (I love how our ship is literally the savior & the survivor- how perfect is that lol). Killy apologising again for his actions & Emma getting all soft & romantic with him again ….. *feels attack incoming* The hand holding ….. *concentrates on breathing* as Emma steps in closer & says ‘its Ok’ *heart beat going into over drive* then she asks if he wants to come in & have coffee (all be it with parents, newborn & human ice maker lol), how happy they both are as Emma gently flirts with him, then Killian makes himself even more vulnerable, looks into her eyes (the way he does that sends your feels gland into overdrive & shipper heart flying out of your chest) & asks if she’ll go out with him again, Emma’s little smile as she steps in & *hyperventilating* … The.Kiss.To.End.All.Kisses ….ZOMG!!!! *little shipper heart jumps out of chest & explodes into a million rainbows* how do they do that- every kiss is better than the last … until DAMN.YOU.RUMPLE.WITH.YOUR.MIND.GAMES! That buzzing/grinding sound you all are hearing- yeah that isnt blacknosie, thats the CS angst machine from S2 & S3, revving it’s engine with the promise of much use to come *sigh*
Emma leaning on the door all love struck ….. *dies of feels …..again*, the little start she has, as Snow chirps up with “How was it?”… How damn cute are Snowing this season?! Those 2 almost need a “Warm fuzzies” warning label or “beyond cuteness” alert during their scenes with Emma lol… LOVED Snow wanting the low down on Emma’s date night & Charming being all like- ‘yeah, how about lets not talk about any goodnight kissing’ LOLOLOL – Perfect scene of Snowing waiting up, realising Emma is deeply happy & Killian really has changed- they both also looked very happy themselves *dies of Charming family feels*… but the icing on the date/charming family feels cake, was Emma’s “I can hear you guys” after she had left them to their observations lol.
NB. Just as well emotional coffins dont cost… I’d have gone broke by now & be forced into having to bury my poor dead, deader & deadest emotions under the neighbours bushes in the dead of night lolLove how Killian’s 1st reaction to Will drunkenly trying to break into the library was 1) Tell him to quit trying to break into the library & 2) That he’s drunk & needs to go home- Not exactly dark impulses there lol ….Then of course Will shakes off Killian’s effort to stop him, Killian goes all Hook & punches him…which makes me wonder if the hand really is cursed … but to be fair- punching the guy you are trying to stop from breaking & entering, who also happened to disturb your long awaited date, that you spent a great deal of time & effort on, probably isnt the most “cunning or selfish” thing he could do- but it was an extreme reaction given what we’ve seen lately … oh, whats that I hear? That damn angst machine kicking into gear, as Killy tells Will to zip it or loose it, then goes into panic mode thanks to Rumple’s friggn mind games messing with his head *dies a little bit on the inside*
Damn you Rumple with your mind games!!!!! Why, Why, WHY Killy, WHHHHHYYYYYY????!!!!???!! *sigh* Lawyers people…always take lawyers with you when you visit Rumple/Gold *head desk* Gotta be honest- not liking Rumple/Gold’s choices at all, entirely selfish & totally not cool- seriously, Killy wouldnt have been able to push him into helping him (because it is NOT Blackmail if Killy doesnt ask for money- pick up a dictionary dude!), he brought that on himself, he is supposed to love Belle, but all he really seems to want, is to have his cake & eat it too *disappointed face* Upside Rumple still has the hand- so maybe Killy will get it back at some stage again (not that he needs it- I’m thinking more of poor Colin getting scripts & having to remind the directors etc. that he’s only got one hand lol) & seriously I didnt miss the hook at all this ep- I dont think he need’s it to be a ‘pirate’ or even ‘Captain Hook’. .whoops…Back on topic.
So I’m liking the idea of Rumple pulling a double bluff on Killian with the hand & also liking the idea that Emma may reattach it with light magic later on 🙂
I know my thoughts are a bit all over the place, I wrote this last night after watching & then I visited tumbler this morning & now I feelings- feelings all over the place 😛
[adrotate group="5"]surayya
ParticipantI’m not sure how I feel right now. It was wonderful at the same time I was screaming at the television. I know my mom and son think I have lost my mind. Charming and Snow were adorable.
I hear you- my brain is still…….






surayya
ParticipantI think we managed to trend everything we wanted to YAY!!!



surayya
ParticipantWill be back to post me thoughts on the ep …other that BEST DATE EVER & OMG THAT KISSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
*CaptianSwanFeelsOverLoad*
surayya
ParticipantHappy Once Day ALL – only 28mins to go now!!!
surayya
ParticipantThere is also #WeLoveCaptainSwan for 8pm-10pm EST (so starting in the next 30mins & running for 2hrs correct?)
surayya
ParticipantHi SFG 🙂
*Sorry in advance for the tangent.*
You want to complain about rape storylines in a show? Try Defiance!
I mean I like that show, but yikes, there are some seriously disturbing trends there about women, whether as people, in relationships, or as objects for men. And lots of actual rape backstory. The second season even has a continuing plotline with a guy psycho-stalking a woman, and secretly tormenting her, just so he can be the one to comfort her, to make her fall for him. And it is hinted (not sure though) that he may even be her rapist from many years before, who’s face she never saw, which ruined her marriage at the time. And guess what? By the end of the season, the woman actually starts to fall for him, and actually sleeps with him. Ick, ick, ick. Absolutely nothing ambiguous on Defiance.
(And all made even weirder by the fact that I really like the actor who plays the psycho. (He was totally sweet on another show.) I can’t quite figure out whether that makes it easier or hard to watch.)
SFG
IKR! If people want to cry promotion of rape culture, they are seriously watching the wrong show with Once.
I was sitting there for Defiance each week going …seriously?! That whole story line is disturbing, because it is actually written to be that way- unlike Once, where people simply want to degrade another character/ship to make their own ship look better.
The 1st season of Defiance wasnt too bad (from memory), we found out she had been raped, but the perpetrator never found/caught- If I’m remembering correctly.
Season 2 was just a whole other, disturbing level, as you pointed out already. I still cant believe they’ve all but paired those 2 together… it’s almost like the 1st & 2nd season where written & produced by totally different people o.O
surayya
ParticipantI don’t get the chance to come visit for 4 days and I have to backpedal 11 pages! I now have my head wonderfully full of pretties and good discussion!
In regard to the dress – I’m not shocked by the controversy. With some folks in this fandumb, a character can sneeze and people would find a way to twist it into fodder for their anti-whatever agenda. I still love it. Is it completely different than anything we’ve seen Emma in? Yes. But that’s the point. None of the characters on OUAT get the chance to breathe, but many realize you have to enjoy those quiet moments — Emma still hasn’t completely wrapped her head around that thought. But that dress says she’s trying – she’s realizing she has to put herself first sometimes, and allow herself positive experiences to outweigh the difficult ones. So I think the dress is a lovely way to show just how much Emma has grown. Not just in regard to opening herself to a romantic relationship. Her mother, father, and new friend are also there. S1 Emma, if, say Graham had succeeded in getting her to agree to a date, would have shown up in the red leather jacket of armor and I don’t think anyone would know about the date – even her friend, Mary Margaret. But Emma is allowing her parents and friend to be a part of this very huge moment in her life. All of those lessons she’s learned, about family and community and opening up yourself to the good even though the possibility of hurt could sneak in, are finally coming together for Emma.
And I 2nd – 3rd? 4th? 5th? – the comment about CSers understanding Emma’s psychology, and that other shippers’ focus isn’t necessarily Emma (not saying that has to be a bad thing, but I can see, then, why you are devoted to ships that just aren’t happening and frankly, were never going to happen). I see so much SF stuff about family and Henry…which is all well and good but a romantic relationship is not the same thing. Neal and Emma’s responsibilities as parents to their son is one thing – their responsibilities and the way they feel about each other something else entirely. And, yes, they are two different things. I love my son, but my marriage is my relationship with my husband, my family is my relationship with both my son and husband. SQ is a relationship I have more difficulty with. And it’s most certainly NOT because it’s a relationship between two women. (I would love OUAT to explore a same gender relationship, but with two people who love each other, not 2 pieces of canon relationships, or even unrequited love – ie: Aurora and Mulan. But that’s a tangent for a different day/thread!) SQ is the definition of dysfunctional – ALL of Emma’s misery and scars can be traced back to one person – Regina (Ok, some argue not Regina, but Rumple, but I disagree with that assessment.) Regina ripped Emma away from her parents, caused Emma to grow up feeling worthless and alone…and Emma’s supposed to fall in love with Regina? Um…
Luckily, the haters have just reached a point of ridiculousness. I tend to tune out when the whole rape culture thing gets going – and that means arguments made against Hook or Neal and Emma, or Regina and Graham. Because I think it takes reading a LOT into these situations to go from what we’ve been shown and running around in circles shouting “RC! RC! RC!” And I don’t believe it was ever A&E’s intention to suggest any of these relationships were about rape. Studying this topic in college (Communications major, focus on film/tv theory here) there was one example that was always brought up – General Hospital and the marriage of Luke and Laura (and god, am I dating myself here – but I was only 2 when the actual event was shown on tv!!). If you don’t know the reference, long story short Luke raped (like actual rape, not innuendo or heart-stealing-so-she-was-a-rapist nonsense) Laura…then they fell in love, got married and had a couple of kids. And when the marriage was shown on tv, it broke viewership records. People were OBSESSED with Luke and Laura. The whole he raped her bit pretty much got swept under the rug. This is NOT what we’re seeing in OUAT between any of the characters. So as I have huge problems with my Luke & Laura example, I also have huge problems with people throwing around terms like ‘rape’ and ‘rape culture’ or even ‘stalker’, etc in regard to any of the OUAT characters – because 1) nothing has been established in canon and 2) Rape, and ‘rape culture’ is far to important a topic to use it as part of an agenda to denounce or support your favorite fictional characters on a tv show. Sorry – enough of that – end rant!
Onto more positive topics before I end my novel here (hey, 3 days away, right?!
) as far as our dear couple goes, I’m loving what we’re getting. Not much is particularly surprising (I refer you back to the ‘we understand these characters’ comments previously brought up) but it is all very in line with what I expect from this couple. One step forward, 2 steps back. Hook supporting Emma, Emma admitting she’s afraid to lose him (HOW HUGE IS THAT?!) – and hopefully, as many suspect, an identity crisis with Hook and Emma taking on the role of supporter in their relationship. I’m still a little on the fence with EM/Ice Queen but I’m loving the Frozen stuff. Almost all of Kristoff’s stuff in the last episode had me either cracking up or squeeing over his attempts to handle his handful of a soon-to-be sister-in-law! And this episode – I think it just might kill us all!! Bring it on – less than 24 hours now!!!
Welcome back Jenna 🙂 & Agree with everything you’ve just said *hands over hooky cookie & rum cake*
surayya
Participantsurayya
ParticipantLast of the pretties for today – only 19hrs to go now! 🙂
True Loves knowing their True Loves.
http://saviorswan.tumblr.com/post/100361772590/oncepromised-true-loves-knowing-their-true
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