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@surayya–I got my S3 Blu-Ray recently and I think I watched all of the special features, and I didn’t see that anywhere. I saw it earlier today though and it was pretty cute, although I couldn’t quite understand what they were saying.
Ok, thanks for that 🙂
Ok someone help me out. I haven’t read the books and I was a wee bit (intentional pun is intentional) confused. Why exactly couldn’t Jamie present himself at the Gathering? I got that it has a lot to do with politics and–I think–inheritance?
If Jamie swore that oath to Colum, it made Jamie next in line to being laird & Dougal is supposed to take over once Colum dies- so it’d automatically make Jamie, Dougal’s target to be destroyed at all costs- family or not. There’s another reason in the book, but I wont use it here, as it hasnt been brought up at all in the show & I dont want to spoil 🙂
If Jamie went to the gathering & didnt swear an oath to Colum, he was publicly announcing he didnt recognise Colum as Laird & therefore would be considered traitorous at best, an enemy at worst & which is why he’d have been killed on the spot- Colum couldn’t let something like that slide, as his position as Laird would be weakened.
All men had to swear the oath, so there was noway Jamie could be at the gathering & not be sealing his own death.
If he’d stayed away down in the stables (out of sight, out of mind) for the gathering Dougal & Colum would have ignored his not taking the oath- as it’s win-win for all 3 of them.Jenna, you forgot option D) Doesn’t matter.
Haha, @Bo-Peeps, I did! And I think your option is the best! What silliness. There is a blog on Tumblr that is far more anti-Neal than I could ever be (I really don’t dislike him, he’s just not the right choice for Emma…and he’s kind of a doof) but it’s hilarious because it finds the most ridiculous of the ridiculous anti-Hook/CS arguments and blows them out of the water, I can’t help but read and get a good chuckle (Zumpie). I have to check out those essays from Screwball Ninja; although I don’t agree 100% with her, she tends to make some very excellent points and observations. 26 days until we can make new observations!
Careful reading the Hook one, 1 it is entirely dedicated to proving Hook’s a villain & not a gentleman, when it is a fact that Hook was never intended to be, nor played as an actual “Villain”.
I found only a few points that she made had any foundation in fact & show context, the rest was a mix of pretty much ignoring context & interviews that laid out what happened & why in favor of her own (unflattering) opinion of what his motives/intention were, other points she makes earlier on are then contradicted by her later points making them invalid- yet they werent edited out & some of her points have since been disproven with stuff that happened in S3.
I could go through that whole meta & disprove with canon fact & my own opinion/interpretations on context, pretty much every point that she’s made, I could also turn some of her points inside out- since she has stated her own interpretation of peoples motives & context as key points in why Killian is a villain 😉
I loved Clair’s “There’s no place like love” & dried horse dung scene as well- it was both parts sweet & funny
yeah that was hilarious.
Also enjoyed seeing Diana Gabaldon getting to have a little cameo
did she? Since I’m not familiar with the written work or her, I didn’t notice. Who was she?
Here you go 🙂
Ok, I havent brought the S3 Bluray yet, so dont know if anything like this was included in the extras- if it was great, if not Why?!?! & PLEASE!!!! Love this sort of behind the scene footage… (love JMo getting giggly & saying she ‘feels like they’re about to make out’ lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp9adNNRfiM
Helps that until it went totally creepy (call me a wuss, but that spinning doll’s head creeps me out every time), it was a really awesome scene to watch as well 😉 I really hope we get a glimpse of Emma’s 1st Ball stuff- I know we probably wont, but a girl can dream 😉Oh, yay- reading material 🙂 Will have a read through your links tomorrow POM!
Okay, I don’t know whether that’s more funny or sad! No, actually I’m going with funny, but it IS a little sad how much they’re grasping at straws in an effort to denigrate Hook. And even if they wanted to show a strip club (which they don’t), I don’t think they could if they want to keep the PG rating.
Here was my response to that
As Emma would say: Really?
The bar Hook was coming out of was the Rabbit Hole. Not a strip joint. Ladies Night just means they’ve got a special promotion on, probably that ladies get cheap drinks if they go to the Rabbit Hole on that night.
I know Hook gets a lot of hate from some members of the Neal/SF faction for various reasons, but this one is just stupid. Hook literally just came out of a door, watched Elsa walk by, whist stood by a sign that said “Ladies Night” yet apparently that automatically means he was at a strip club. Seriously? Hate him all you want but a least ground your hate in fact and truth rather than making stuff up just to try and make the character look bad.
Oh, please do link to Zelena nominating Hook for Ice bucket- I havent seen that yet, sounds like fun
Well thought out & valid response POM, I hope you didnt get scolded for trying to maintain a modicum of common sense over there.
& LOL- That is fantastic! Thanks for sharing it 😀What did everyone think of episode 4? I enjoyed it quite a bit; got really nervous during the Hall scene when Jamie was presenting himself.
I really enjoyed as well. They seem to do an awesome job of building a great deal of tension on screen, then dissipating it in constructive ways afterwards- ie. Boar hunt & Shinty show down.
They are doing an extraordinary job of adapting this tale into the visual format to tell, while staying true to the book IMO. Even when they deviate from the written work slightly, it has only enhanced the story telling so far.
I must admit I had a bit of a giggle with Jamie over Clair’s concern of Dougal’s date with a stool 😉 & I loved Clair’s “There’s no place like love” & dried horse dung scene as well- it was both parts sweet & funny 🙂
Anyone get a slight Sherlock vibe off of the way they had Clair laying her plan out while she was putting it into action lol 😉
Also enjoyed seeing Diana Gabaldon getting to have a little cameo 🙂Just thought of a good analogy for romantic relationships- If we think of trust between people being like a currency, with people building up this currency by being reliable, generous & consistent. They then spend the currency when they trust others to reciprocate. So trust becomes the clue that holds people together.
If you turn that into Neal & Emma- Emma spent massive ‘sums’ of trust on Neal- being reliable (she had eyes only for Neal, followed his lead & put his well being & desires above her own), generous (she offered to collect his stolen goods, to keep him ‘safe’) & consistent (she spent at least a year or 2 looking for him even after he betrayed her).
Neal, especially at the end of their romantic relationship, took her massive deposit & left. He didnt ever make another meaningful deposit/reciprocate- in short he bankrupted Emma’s trust in men entirely & him specifically- she may have loved him, but she didnt trust him to the point where she could be totally vulnerable with him again. The most Neal could have hoped for & what we got a brief glimpse of, is enough trust deposited to become ‘comfortable’ friends, but because there will always be cracks in Emma’s ‘Neal bank of trust’, they never allow the trust in him to grow to the point where she could ever trust him so intimately again.
Killian meet Emma when her ‘trust of men bank’ was pretty much empty, as her ‘Neal bank’ was still bleeding currency from it. However, Killian chose to spend trust on Emma, even after she betrayed him, so when she eventually reciprocated in spending a little trust on him, they both found their banks slowly but surly growing action by action, choice by choice & day by day, until all of a sudden Emma had a ‘bank of Killian’ & Killian had a ‘bank of Emma’- as long as they both continue to spend trust on each other, in order to maintain that build up of trust, we’ll have CS 🙂
