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So I’ve just started my umpteenth rewatch of the whole of S3 (ready to take note of my other fav parts, to contribute to POM thread) & I just noticed when Hook & Regina are having their “Greg Mendell (sp) said something funny to me; he said I’m a villain. & that villains dont get happy endings. You believe that?” moment, well right after Hook say’s “I hope not; Or we’ve wasted our lives”, he changes his gaze, to look directly at Emma as the screen pans towards her. Never noticed it before now lol. Wonder how many other things will pop out this time around 😉
[adrotate group="5"]I can’t stand allegations about “stealing” Rumple’s wife
Nor I, It drives me nuts when people say he “stole” Milah, she is a person, not a sack of meat in clothing >:( I really wish people would get clued up on the meaning of words before they use them-
Steal = To take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
1) Milah is not & never should be considered Rumple’s property.
2) Milah asked/wanted to go with Hook- she asked Hook’s permission to go with him.
3) Both Milah & Hook intended to return to hovelville (no clue what the village they were in was called, so I’ve dubbed it hovelville in honor of the Stilskin hovel 😉 ) for Bae.
Hook simply & only consented to take Milah with him after she requested him to do so.
And no, Hook didn’t “coerce” Emma into kissing him in 305. He was just being his usual flirty self. He didn’t actually expect her to kiss him; he was clearly surprised when she did. (Not to mention that it’s clear that he didn’t even plan on announcing that he’d saved Charming’s life and expect praise from everyone; Charming brought it up himself and Hook even asked him if he was sure it was a good idea to say anything about it.
Yep- according to these people, every guy on the planet who looks at a women or flirts with a women, yet waits for a women to make the 1st move, is “coercing” them- cause that makes soooooo much sense lol 😉
I disagree that Robin’s a d-bag. For Robin, Marian has been dead for years, and definitely enough to adequately have mourned his wife and move on in a healthy manner. Robin has zero control over the fact that to Marian, they were happily married days earlier, until she was captured by Regina. And seriously, was he supposed to stay celibate in case some random person managed to figure out how to time travel and 4 or so years after he death, inadvertently reunite him with her? I don’t even really have a problem with the amount of time that has passed for OQ to get where they are – because they’re in that early, ‘everything is great, you’re amazing and you make me amazing’ blah blah blah stage of their relationship. Before they’ve had to deal with any significant problems. Most of us have been there ourselves. I don’t really think Regina and Robin are acting on their feelings for each other solely because a 3rd party told them they were meant to be together. Because every relationship is perfect until reality sinks in and cracks begin to emerge. Even in a good, healthy relationship. Admittedly, OQ’s problem is a little different than most couple’s! I’m not sure Regina and Robin can’t be together – if she’s truly changed…I’m not sure that Regina being Marian’s killer changes that much between Regina and Robin (unpopular thought, I know don’t shoot me!
) — Robin knew of Regina, and he knew of the Evil Queen’s penchant for killing anyone and everyone in her path. Robin would’ve easily been one of the Evil Queen’s victims had he been caught. But he’s made peace with that. Of course, Marian being an almost-victim is far more personal…would Robin have known Marian died at Regina’s hand while still living in the EF? I can’t remember if they made that clear. It seems like it would be the natural assumption that if someone up and disappears, it’s at the hands of the Evil Queen. Ultimately, I think the entire storyline hinges on exactly how much Regina has truly changed. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a theme for all of the villains in 4A – Is Rumple going to backslide (further) once Belle finds out about Zelena? Will Hook be able to continue on his path to be a good man – what needs to happen for him to be tempted to readopt the full on Captain Hook persona again? I imagine we’ll see the pirate emerge now and then, especially when he’s in protection mode…is drawing on his pirate skills to ensure the safety of the ones he loves enough to tempt him back to that life? We would think no, but he’s still on his journey to being good, I don’t know that he’s fully redeemed himself yet, especially in his own eyes. Regina has had to deal with very little repercussions of her actions. She’s due. This situation is exactly the kind of setup needed to see if Regina can really turn herself around, make herself deserving of someone’s love, or if she’s really just too far gone. I’m in total agreement with you here. I’m still a little unsure how they are going to handle it, but I well & truly ready to sit back & enjoy the show 🙂
Well. Robin and Marian. Classic, Iconic, Sacred even and yeah, they should be together. Screwing around with that is just…no. But they went there so they must deal with it. I didn’t mind Robin and Regina coming together, even fast. In fact, it was fun to see SOMEONE going fast and being frisky. We who love The Captain and his Lady were alwaysssss waiiiiittttinnnggggg anddddd aggggonnnizzzinnnngggg. But the moment Marian showed up, and no matter the circumstances, Robin, who has proclaimed her the absolute love of his life, should be with her. Now, we won’t find out if time travel (or a conk on the head with a log!) has affected Marian in a negative way until the premiere. But even killing Marian for what they might think is a valid reason, is gonna suck.
I’m totally with you here Bo. Although they probably will kill her off & yep, it will suck!
It is kind of a nice way to change up a traditional fairy tail love story though, I will admit if I had to choose, I’m glad it’s Snowing who arent breaking with their traditional love story by Charming being dead though.
Haha on the waiting & agonizing …. we are suckers for punishment …. I actually really enjoyed the wait (sans nasty Emma, even if I understand why she was being nasty, it eventually got old) & I’m looking forward to A,E & co. sending us on another emotional roller coaster next season 😉
As much as the haters want to hate on Hook for every single tiny little thing, at least when it comes to the people he loves, he gives them choices. He in no way takes away another’s person’s agency. Milah made her choice, Bae made his choice and he let Emma decide what she wanted. You can’t fault the man for caring about what the other person wants to do.
*Nods in agreement*.
I agree. Neal should’ve at least asked Rumple if that was true. There’s a lot of reactions we didn’t get to see from Neal, finding out that Rumple had killed Milah being one of them. The other reaction we didn’t get to see is Neal’s reaction to Tamara’s betrayal and death. That was the woman he loved and was going to marry….and he just kind of went on his merry way.
UGH! YES this!!!!!!
I did create a thread to discuss favourite moments of season 3 since it does get a lot of negativity. Season 3 did have good moments. I’d be very interested to hear what other people’s favourite moments are.
Good idea, I’ll have a think & pop mine in there.
I just wish some people would learn to move on, you know? It’s nearly seven months now. It’s getting old. I mean goodness, if you’re so unhappy watching this show, then don’t watch and remove yourself from places that bring out that bad feeling.
Yes exactly, I can understand the “I’ll miss Neal next season” statements, I really do & I in no way have any issues with that, it’s fair enough- I’m sure many of us would feel the same had it been Hook who died & but instead some of them keep degrading the show & other fans because they misinterpreted it, by stating the show has gone down hill, the show is just for fan service or shippers now, insist Neal’ll be back, he only died so another ship could happen, Neal was far more important than a certain other character etc. It’s just stupid, so is upsetting yourself or making yourself depressed or sad by constantly putting yourself in a position where it’s in your face, I feel I have to sit on my hands with some people, so I dont end up typing “If you feel that way so strongly, way not take a break from the fandom & maybe come back when S4 starts & see how you feel then”.
The closer we get to the premiere, the more interviews we’ll get. So, I’m really excited about that. We’re going to see Colin and Jen and everyone else everywhere.
I really hope thats the case- we havent had much at all over the last week or so :/ I need me some spoilers stat! lol
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Lol
Henry in EF would be a kick for him and us.
Agreed, what teen wouldnt want an adventure in EF/FTL 😉 I want one & I all growed up 😉 lol
until then…this is quite a good gathering of minds here in this thread!
& the very thing that has kept me here, I just wish most the negativity would die away so some of our old shipmates would came back 😉
Oh, I had a random thought while watching CS fanvids before bed, What if Henry decides he wants to experience FTL, because it is where everyone is from- including Neal, it’d make sense for Henry to want to see the place his father was from, not to mention the rest of his family- both grandfathers, grandmother, step grandmother, adopted mother, soon to be step father & step brother…. What if Henry being around Rumple/Gold’s store, decides to find away to portal jump to EF? That would also allow them to organically bring Neal back in flashbacks (if MRJ is available) as well.
another fanvid- really nice one about CS story 🙂
Finally caught the first episode and I admit to being impressed with what they’ve done. The cinematography alone was breathtaking. Didn’t know if I’d like Sam Heughan as Jamie because my mental vision of him for the last 15 years was remarkably different but he was quite good. Claire was spot on. Didn’t like Frank in the books. Still don’t like Frank. Good news is that its already been renewed for another season. There is also an official podcast here for anyone interested : https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/outlander-official-podcast/id910631883
I’m glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Thanks for the link, I’ll have to see if there’s a non itunes link for it somewhere since I’m windows 8 & windows 8 hates itunes :/
And re: the necklace…as far as I’m concerned that makes no sense. There was an awful lot of random stuff in Gold’s shop that came over from the first curse. Maybe all of that was born of true love as well and TL is actually common as dirt? Yeah, I don’t think so. And it just seems like another disconnect between Neal and Emma–he thinks it’s a symbol of their love while she said it was a reminder never to trust anyone.
Yes, exactly.
@pom – I agree, neither Rumple and Hook are saints, but Belle does seem to have her blinkers on when it comes to Rumple. I totally agree she had reason to call Hook ‘rotten’, but in the next breath she calls Rumple’s heart ‘true’. And I would disagree with the ‘child abandoning’ accusation of Hook. Yeah, he handed Bae over to Pan, but what was he supposed to do? Bae wanted to leave. Was Hook supposed to hold him captive on his ship? And absolutely not, Hook’s actions aren’t being whitewashed. (I don’t think tortured soul is a cast-iron excuse, as Rumple has had some horribleness in his past too) Hook has to work pretty hard at gaining the ‘good guys’ trust, Regina does too (although Snow is willing to forgive her a little more easily b/c I assume Snow knew Regina when she was good, and knows that side is in there somewhere). Hook wants to be a better person, but I’m not sure Rumple does. Case in point giving Belle a fake dagger. In relation to people not being up in arms about Robin being with mass-murderer Regina, I think they are. There is that whole big thing about Regina killing Marion in the previous timeline and how on earth can Robin be with the woman who ‘killed’ his wife. But I guess he’s a little like Belle and is only seeing the good in her, since he hasn’t seen anything else. I assume in the EF Robin’s enemy was still the Sheriff of Nottingham, so the Evil Queen probably wasn’t on his radar much and only heard stories. And of course you shouldn’t believe rumour and gossip. However you can probably blame Rumple for Regina since he groomed her to become proficient in Dark Magic, so Rumple is the over-riding baddie and Regina is a product of the DO’s evil. It’s all in the eye of the beholder.
Absolutely! *Hands over a Hookie cookie*
Sorry I didnt stick around to say ” hi” to you in the chat @obisgirl but the convo was begining to suck the joy out my initial happy reaction to Maleficents return Oh and in case anyone didnt get the memo, NEAL IS DEAD, there was a body and burial.
I went to go on chat before coming in here to see if any of the Mal fans were there to chat, but like you, saw all the crap in there *eye roll* & did the same… sadly it didnt stop me seeing how we’re back to the “Hooks going to die” crap again *head desk* (even CS shippers drove me nuts last season with the “Is Hook going to die?!” stuff- for the love of all thats green, I REAAAAAALLLLLLLLY dont want the fandom- be they septic shippers, or totally obsessed CS fans- to go there again this season… pretty please, with cherries, sprinkles & cream on top 😀 )
And I would disagree with the ‘child abandoning’ accusation of Hook. Yeah, he handed Bae over to Pan, but what was he supposed to do? Bae wanted to leave. Was Hook supposed to hold him captive on his ship?
I’ve always thought that too! (But been a little afraid to say it, lol.) I mean, Bae demanded to leave and even tried to kill him. If he had kept him captive on the ship, Bae might’ve murdered him in his sleep or something (not likely really, but you never know). And it’s not like it would’ve been any different if they’d just put him on the island somewhere; Pan knew everything that happened there anyway. And without a portal, there wasn’t anywhere else to go except maybe back in the ocean. Also…there’s another person who should’ve reacted differently to finding out that Rumple murdered Milah. Why on earth did that not seem to bother Baelfire? I guess his first instinct might have been to think Hook was lying, but logically it’s not like Hook would’ve risked his life for Milah’s son and kept her self-portrait all that time if she’d just been some random woman he’d abducted.
Yes, on both points.
