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One, I don’t think it was a true love connection between Emma and Graham. I think it was as Henry said. If the huntsman hadn’t saved Snow, she wouldn’t have had Emma. I think they were connected in that way. Plus, I don’t think Emma was around Graham long enough to feel true love towards him. And there was no rainbow effect that happened.
Maybe I should have worded my post better- this was my point, Emma broke the ‘Curse’s’ effects on Graham & there was no whoosh effect- yet there has been on every other curse breakage, however each of those curse breakages has involved TLK (that I can remember), so how do we know if it’s TLK or the curse breakage that actually creates the whoosh effect? Or does it only happen when TL breaks a curse? That was more my point 🙂
Hook and Emma’s kiss in (A Curious Thing) is a bit more complicated because there was a rainbow effect that happened, but Adam and Eddy have said it wasn’t true love’s kiss. Okay, what is kissing though? It’s when one set of lips meets another pair. Same could be said for giving CPR, because you do you have to press your lips to the victim to help them live.
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TL doesn’t automatically happen; both parties have to come to that conclusion and admit it to themselves–we need only look at the amnesia kisses to know that.
& this is where it gets complicated, we know Hook “truly loves” Emma (other wise why try TLK in NY), we know Emma has been fighting her feelings for Killy (hence all the pushing away & snark combined with her ‘come hither’ looks & body language), so in that moment did Emma’s walls actually drop enough for her to realise she “truly loved” Killy & while not a “kiss” as such (unless you fall into the “kiss of life” camp lol), it was the touching of lips of 2 true loves, one of whom was cursed & hence the whoosh effect.
This is why I said “I understand” why it can be debated, however IMO, if A&E have out right said it wasnt “TLK” then it’s not, but as I said before, it doesnt mean it isnt a ‘subtle’ hint/foreshadowing of whats to come & looking back we’ll be going ‘well played guys, well played’ 😉 .
I can see how one might be a Neal fan and ship SF, but as an Emma fan? I don’t get it.
Hey, that’s a really good distinction. I was listening to the AfterBuzz OUAT show for E21 & E22 a few days ago & all the chicks on there were hardcore SF shippers, however after those eps, they really understood & got that Hook really loves Emma (some of the finer points went over their heads, but at least they accept & actually said Hook ‘grew on them’/they liked him & they understood). What really stood out for me though, was it was “Hook’ really loved ‘Emma” & when they spoke about Neal in general & in the SF scene, they gushed over how romantic it was that “Neal” was teaching Emma how to B&E & survive (as a thief/criminal) & how great that “he” told her that stuff about knowing your home o.O. They felt “Neal” was Emma’s TL – I spent the whole time they talked about SF thinking ‘well that’s great for Neal & all, but what about whats great/best for Emma, how is any of these things a good thing for Emma?!’ So I really truly understand what you mean by that one simple sentence.
I mean, the skull and crossbones (also known as the freaking “Jolly Roger”!) in a heart, in that particular episode?
Exactly my point about the whoosh thing when Emma did “CPR” on Killy 😉 Who’s to say Zelena, being Zelena
(since she can do the “impossible” like time travel) dint ‘simply’ turn TL against itself to create that lip curse, since it required the name of his TL (in his mind) to be evoked.[adrotate group="5"]Had a good giggle over this review- esp the bit about the ‘teasing table’ scene 😉
I have to have a good giggle at this- by ep3 you really do start to feel like this lol {not really a spoiler as such, but I’ll spoiler block in anycase}
Colin looking back on S3 with IGN:
IGN: Hook had a really interesting arc last season and had to walk a better path because of things that happened. What do you think were some of the pivotal moments that helped push him towards the right side?
Colin O’Donoghue: Well, I think it’s his relationship with Emma. That developed quite a lot and halfway through the season, he realized that the quest for revenge that he’d been on for so long wasn’t really doing much for him. He believed that he could love again when he met Emma and got to know her. He decided to allow himself to feel again, and I think that’s really what it all came down to – this idea that he’d spent hundreds of years living with hatred and revenge in his heart for the death of Milah and having met Emma he sort of realized ‘Oh my god, I can actually feel for somebody again.’
IGN: Do you think because he opened his heart again that love helped him better deal with the death of Bae?
O’Donoghue: Yeah. You see toward the end of Season 3 when Hook had Bae on the ship, he truly would have given up everything — a life of piracy and all that kind of stuff — to look after this child who was the son of the woman he loved most in the world before he met Emma. He would have given everything up for him. When he comes across Neal as a rival suitor, his quest to get Emma’s heart sort of blinds him to the fact that this is the same boy that he was about to open up to, to become like a surrogate father for. Towards the end he realizes that and realizes that there’s more to life than being so blinded by one thing and one quest and he realizes, again, that he could have an open heart for somebody that he needs to care for.
IGN: Will we see him be able to expand those feelings and act fatherly towards Henry in Season 4?
O’Donoghue: I mean, towards the end of Season 3 you kind of see a little bit of that, where he decides to tell Henry snippets of who Neal was and he sort of reveals a bit about his relationship with Henry’s father. We’re early on in [filming] Season 4, but you’ll definitely see elements of that again
I think it’s time for more pretties as a pick me up 😉
Captain Swan aka i’m jealous of you doing nothing with no one
Thanks for the Blog link Myril, I’ll check it out 🙂
Oh the sound track- LOVE it & yes, now you mention it, he is one Very busy guy atm.It isn’t your normal or even abnormal time travel. It is distinctly different. Especially since we follow a strong and independent woman in the lead. The realism takes you right into the story, even when she passes through centuries.
Yes agree with this- the time travel is more used as a tool to get a ‘modern’ women into 1700-1800 Scotland, it doesnt (at least in book 1, which is the only one I’ve read to date) get into the whole timey whimey aspect of time travel & the consequences of it (I totally geek out on Continuum for that 😉 VERY well done Sci Fi/Time travel show)- what happens, happens & then we move on in Outlander 🙂
Surayya~ I bought book five and six at the local used- book sanctuary…it’s about time I tackled some Celtic history again, you know, to keep in touch with my distant heritage (wink wink) yeah, that’s the ticket! When I go back in time from the comfort of my overstuffed reading chair, I want to be Clare. Again and again and again.
I cheated & DL the ebooks (I tend to try before I buy ‘real’ copies, as I have full bookshelves for Africa & very little room left for any more lol)- If I love the other books as much as the 1st, then I’ll kill a tree to have the ‘real’ deal to read lol- Nothing better than a good book in your hands on a cold winters day (ereaders just dont ‘feel’ the same):)
I’ve been debating for years whether to read the Outlander series. It’s been recommended so many times I always put it off for later. I think the large number of sequels is the reason I’ve held off.
Haven’t seen the show. I don’t get Starz, but I think I’d prefer to read at least the first novel before I see it. Maybe it will move up on my “to be read” list.
I’d been recommended the series many times as well, but never got around to it because ‘time travel’, ‘romance’ & stuff – I got bored & decided to give ep1 of Outlander a go to find out if the story was really as interesting as everyone kept telling me it was. The 1st ep (of 16), really only covers the prologue & 1st 3 chapters of the book (there are 896pgs, split into 41chapters)- which is why there was no way I could wait 2 & 1/2 weeks for ep2 & had to read the 1st book to find out what happens after the 1st episode lol.
