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In response to the Henry thing – Bo-Peeps, I have to say I agree 100%. Here’s the thing – Henry can be mourning his father and be comfortable with Emma and Regina’s romantic relationships. And I think especially Emma’s. Henry and Emma have a unique relationship. And they are extremely close. And there’s no erasing (although some may want to try) what Neal did to Emma. And I think Henry is one of the few people that actually understand how badly that relationship affected her. Think about it from Henry’s side. When he finally learned the truth about his father, he finally got all of the pieces he needed to understand why Emma had so much trouble bonding with Henry. Can you imagine knowing your father left your mother – who you know much better and have a much stronger, more established relationship with – and let her to go jail? That your mother’s lack of self worth, in part, is due to that person? That she gave you up because she didn’t believe she was worthy or good enough to raise her child – again, in part because of your father who you have very little established relationship with? So now, if that guy was a major part in destroying your mother, but you see her with a man who you can see loves and supports her, and wants to spend time with Henry as well….are you really going to get upset that your mother is with that man? Really? It’s not the same thing, but my parents separated when I was Henry’s age – and I was so unbelievably happy because their relationship didn’t work. I didn’t cry into my pillow hoping Dad would come back, because I was old enough to realize that the living situation stunk for all of us. But they were excellent co-parents – so it may not have been the ideal, but it made everyone happier. Henry was sitting next to Emma when Snowing announced the baby’s name because they had been reading the book together before Emma prompted them to finally make the announcement. The first part of the scene required Henry to be present in the booth, and since Jared’s still (barely) smaller than Jen, for blocking purposes he has to be closest to the camera. But to get the full effect of us seeing Emma first truly say hello to her brother, and realize she wanted Killian to be with her in that moment, we needed the shot to be devoid of anyone else. Which wouldn’t have been feasible with Jared still sitting there. So…make the announcement and then have him get up and out of the booth. So, yes, I definitely believe Henry moving was purely a blocking choice.
Lol- should have read all the posts before posting myself- agreed 🙂
My parents went through a divorce when I was much younger than Henry- I think I was 7 or 8 maybe & I didnt want them back together nor cry into my pillow either. I think few kids are immature enough to actually go through the whole ” I want my mum & dad back together again” thing if they have the facts.
With regards to Henry possibly thinking it’s too soon for Emma to be in a relationship after his Dad dying- it only makes sense if he thought there was a snowballs chance in hell that it looked like they were getting back together & there just wasnt – there wasnt enough time for that to happen, that Henry was also present for, Henry spent most of NL thinking his Dad dead, then what, a few hours total after that, that he wasnt trapped in Pandora’s box, before he lived with cursed memories & knowing what Neal had done, when he got his memories back, he was told off the bat his Dad was dead.
I can understand him not wanting to have to try live with all the feelings of thinking his father was a hero/greatest guy alive & his Mom was a lier etc. when he 1st meet Neal & now have the truth about why Emma didnt want anything to do with him anymore post cursed memories/the truth- Henry’s a smart kid, he probably put 2 & 2 together & realised Emma gave him up, because Neal gave her up & is having a hard time accepting it.
On the other hand, it could simply be Regina slipping again that could have Henry wanting to forget his ties with her- maybe she say’s or does something to press his buttons & he pushes back- maybe something magical could have scared him & he wants to forget magic etc.
Lol, now I have this weird image of all the fairies morphing into cupid/s on valentines day to shoot pixie dust at unsuspecting people as they pass by lol
The mystery of soulmates has been solved 
lolI need this now. That brings up an interesting point about Cupid. We’ve already seen some Greek mythology on Once (Midas, Pegasus,), do you think cupid exists in the Enchanted Forest?
He must do surely…. if not, they need to write him in- it could make an epic episode & I’d pay good money to see their take on him, not to mention certain characters reactions to meeting him lol 😉
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We all know you weren’t talking about the midwife Killian and I agree 100%
Snow was very demanding in that episode. Charming was out trying to hunt down the WW and Snow expected him to drop everything just to meet the midwife then moaned at him because he was distracted. It wasn’t important that Charming had to meet Zelena then and there since there were plenty of other opportunities when he could’ve met her. But as usual, Snow likes to have things her own way.
Sadly I must admit Snow moved down my list of favorite characters, while Regina as moved up it- its a shame as Snow was so awesome in S1 & most of S2 :/
Saw this, had to share-
“The most revealing part of the scene was Emma’s second “come back to me” which she whispered just after she gave him mouth to mouth resuscitation – there’s something remarkable about that phrase, especially when it’s used with two people who truly care for one another. […] It’s a phrase that tends to valorize the idea that the two hearts are so incredibly connected that the saying will be heard even in the deepest sleep. […] Morrison’s delivery of the particular line was impeccably telling – Emma would much rather lose her powers than lose her person. As she whispered those words, she ultimately substantiated the fact that he’s someone she needs in her life. Plainly simple, she wants him to come back to her – Morrison’s faintly expressive whisper was filled with an abundant amount of fear that was not only heard loudly, but crystallized through the distressed look in her eyes and the tight grip on his shirt.” – mgcircles [x]
This scene is more important than you think.
http://swanspirate.tumblr.com/post/93660571250/the-most-revealing-part-of-the-scene-was-emmas
The full version of above:
we’re thoroughly pleased with Charming acknowledging that Killian’s act was something that needed to be done because of the situation he’s in. Because Charming too has been in the kind of situation where he felt lying to his loved one’s was the best option, he recognizes Killian’s decision as something that normally occurs when one doesn’t want to hurt anyone he adores.
While on their way to defeat the Wicked Witch once and for all, Emma again expresses her plans about leaving to New York because their life there was good. However, Killian knows her too well and he sees that she’s actually running from possibilities. We’ve always felt as though Emma embraced Killian’s love for her back in “Going Home” at the town line when she uttered the word “good”; moreover, no matter how frustrating her desire to leave is, it’s entirely understandable as she’s dealing with the ramifications of two sets of memories, two sets of happy moments and sad ones, thus trusting is inevitably something that’s difficult for her.
The thing we adore most about Killian’s love for Emma is the unwavering persistence to help her embrace the things he knows will make her happiest. “Why are you so scared of staying? I think it’s because you see a future here, a happy one.” O’Donoghue is truly something else when it comes to sincere line deliveries, especially when they’re expressing Killian’s feelings for Emma. He ultimately sees her inner most desires effortlessly because of how much he understands her. He feels the same amount of pain she does – the fear of losing love and being betrayed like she has been in the past. Thus, he feels her concerns and sees that the fear of a good life, forces her to back away because of what she’s experienced. Killian knows that Emma has an immense capacity to love and when she opens her heart to some, there’s nothing she wouldn’t do for them. He understands that because of the turmoils in her past, she’s eager to leave because the possibilities of opening her heart again are on the line. If she does chose to embrace love, she’s laying it all on the line, she’s giving her all, and in doing so she’s afraid of another terrifying heartache because she evidently does see the potential of something real.
Zelena then interrupts their conversation to set things straight on her own by forcing Emma to choose between saving Killian or keeping her powers. Emma chooses to save his life, and because this is something we’ve wanted for them for quite some time, we’re entirely pleased with the the scene. So much of their journey has been about Emma’s choices, and in this scene especially, it wasn’t just about saving his life, but it was the authentic concerns that were illuminated in the moment. The most revealing part of the scene was Emma’s second “come back to me” which she whispered just after she gave him mouth to mouth resuscitation – there’s something remarkable about that phrase, especially when it’s used with two people who truly care for one another. In season one, memory less Snow found herself whispering the same exact words to an unconscious David by the Troll Bridge. It’s a phrase that tends to valorize the idea that the two hearts are so incredibly connected that the saying will be heard even in the deepest sleep. It’s as though we needed more parallels between the two couples for further proof that they’re made for one another. Morrison’s delivery of the particular line was impeccably telling – Emma would much rather lose her powers than lose her person. As she whispered those words, she ultimately substantiated the fact that he’s someone she needs in her life. Plainly simple, she wants him to come back to her – Morrison’s faintly expressive whisper was filled with an abundant amount of fear that was not only heard loudly, but crystallized through the distressed look in her eyes and the tight grip on his shirt. Emma’s shown her concerns for Killian a few times before, but none of the scenes were as evocative as this one. After he was revived and speaking to her, because of Morrison’s commendable abilities to speak with her eyes, you could see the indisputable relief on Emma’s face that she didn’t lose him, that for the first time since she’s came to Storybrooke, a man didn’t die in her arms. This was the kind of moment that was meant to show viewers and Emma herself just how significant Killian is. He’s not just a pirate, he’s somebody she cannot lose because he’s become her partner, her equal — the person whose happiness and well being mean more to her than she can articulate. It’s a prodigious moment for the two of them because she chose his life over her magic, and knowing she’s done so is something that upsets Killian because it’s not something he wanted for her. O’Donoghue played that scene remarkably as he projected both gratitude and anger masterfully while he realized she saved his life, and he unwillingly took away something he wanted her to embrace.
I would’ve hoped that writers, who are usually so careful with words, would’ve given some deep thought to this question at the start of the entire show and had at least a working definition, rather than coming up with something on the fly.
Now this I agree with 100%
I definitely agree that you can’t necessarily take Tink’s word as gospel in regard to the ‘soulmate’ thing. Fairies help people, can grant wishes, and whatnot, but they’re not necessarily…I guess Cupid, for lack of a better word. Their purpose is not to find others’ soulmates or even to define the term soulmate…so while the pixie dust was used to find Robin for Regina, I don’t believe that’s proof positive that as a result Robin MUST be Regina’s soulmate, or if Tink did the same with two other couples, it would mean they are soulmates as well. I think Tink using the word ‘soulmate’ was to emphasize to the audience that Regina was frightened by Robin and the possibility of a new relationship, and the one presented to her by Tink could have been life changing — because it meant Regina was willing to turn to the Light and not the Dark.
Lol, now I have this weird image of all the fairies morphing into cupid/s on valentines day to shoot pixie dust at unsuspecting people as they pass by lol 😛 The mystery of soulmates has been solved 😉 lol
Oh & on Snowflakes nickname … Nels, Nez …. Leo 😉 😛 Charmling, Ash (gotta alienate them all) … Oh, oh I have the perfect nickname – “daily reminder to our grandson that the father he only got to spend a short time with is dead & to our daughter about ex, who left her emotionally scared & caused her to give Henry up for adoption” lol …Why didnt they just call him Bae or what ever Nealfire’s middle name was, it would have been way less weird *sigh* ….. wonder if they spell Snowflake’s name differently than Neal’s? … I wonder if they will nickname him Bae- but that’d be too weird now- Snowflake having both his names.
So I did a little rewatch of some of the CS heavy eps of NL & I’ve been thinking about the whole “when I win your heart Emma, & I will win it” line again & the way I interpret it is this:
Killian knows Emma has walled her heart off to romantic love, she doesnt truly trust anyone at that point in time & at that stage Killian isnt even sure if she can fall in love again- so while she can kiss & flirt with him, hell even sleep with him- it doesnt mean she’s allowed love into her heart, so IMO, what Killian is trying to get across there is, he doesnt want to have meaningless sex, kisses & flirting with Emma, he’s realised he wants more & she deserves more, he wants her to want him, not just with her body or mind, but with her heart, in sort, he wants a meaningful relationship with her & they cant have that if he doesnt win her heart/trust/love 1st.
Just thought I’d put it out there- it’s 3am rambling time lol- the only perk of being sick, is sleeping all day 😉
