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, we’re going to be learning more about both Hook and Baelfire and there may or may not be another land in that.
OK that’s it. Nealfire is DEFINITELY Peter Pan. (YAY!!!) 😀
[adrotate group="5"]swanning-offParticipantan eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, as the wise MLK Jnr once said.
swanning-offParticipantGreat day dreams! Pretending to be bat-sh*t crazy Alice, catching up Hook on the deck of the Jolly Roger…. 😉
swanning-offParticipant@ShinySephiroth wrote:
Some thing I think could be also considered is Dorothy is from Black and White Land (like Whale).
I had this daft idea while putting the washing out today that maybe Alice (as in Alice in Wonderland) came from Frankenstein’s Victoriana Gothic black and white world. The idea I had was:
1. Alice is part of the Frankenstein household – little sister? Servant? something like that
2. She sees Gerhardt post-regeneration do something monstery (thus allowing OUAT to show us what happened between Gerhadt being locked up and Victor being zapped to Storybrooke)
3. Totally terrified, she runs and runs…. and falls down a rabbit hole. Which turns out to be a random portal. She lands in Wonderland.
4. Traumatised by what she saw + the adjustment of crazy Wonderland, Alice goes a little bit nuts….. madder than the Mad Hatter. Then they could also make her the White Rabbit – always running off to find a new rabbit hole, trying to find a safer or more normal world. Lands in ours. Whale/Franksenstein and Jefferson/Hatter recognise her. Shenanigans ensue.Meh. They should have us write this show.
To tie it back into the main thread, I also daydreamed that maybe one of Alice’s rabbit hole flights took her to Oz, and she pinched Dorothy’s silver shoes to try and get back home. But would she want to go home? Not if home is still occupied by a monster. Maybe she was lost and ended up in Neverland – which wasn’t just a place for Lost Boys? (where Hook would undoubtably flirt with her, based on his behaviour with all other women)
See, there’s so many ways that the writers can draw threads between different stories to make them part of one seamless universe without it being too strange or difficult. This gives me huge optimism for future seasons – after all, I came up with a half assed scenario involving Mad Hatter, Frankenstein, a fling with Hook, Oz and Alice. Ta da!
swanning-offParticipantAgree that how’s Cora rationalises her behaviour. Her “I don’t like what that enchanted box was saying. I’m not wicked” was so defensive – she has to believe that she isn’t the wicked witch, or her entire moral construct to her life will fall over.
A bit like Regina’s “I was always the Queen, it was you who added Evil to it” – like her mother, she can’t see that she’s earned the title of wicked witch all on her own!
swanning-offParticipantI’m pretty sure that Neal says “I didn’t mean for Tamara to be a surprise” so he brings it up, not her. But her reaction is so quick, so defensive… she does care. And Nealfire knows that.
However, I think Daddy Charming also knows that – or at least suspects. Nice timing to just wander in as things are getting awkward.
swanning-offParticipant@tiara_rose wrote:
I don’t think so. that Snow would allow such a spell for her this time. I think that she will want that Regina kill her, because of her guilt that she will not able to live with it. This will also the reason why Regina will not kill her. The greatest pain she can cause this time to Snow is to let her live with this pain and also she will see that it would hurt Henry to much.
Yep. Totally agree. Regina will realise that the most painful way she can torture Snow is to let her live with the knowledge of what she has done.
I don’t think she will kill her. Maybe she does take her heart but realises that without it, she feels no pain – putting it back at the request of David/Emma/Henry/someone seems nice but really isn’t?
Dunno. Can’t wait though!
swanning-offParticipantJust remembered another bit I loved. The slight awkwardness between Emma and Nealfire after his attempts at discussing his fiance, broken by Daddy Charming’s “is everything alright here?” with a meaningful glance at his daughter. So cute.
And it reminded me of this:
swanning-offParticipantI think he was intrigued by her spark and forthrightness, even from the start. I think she could have loved him, had her pride and lust for power not prevented it. I think he at least respected her, if not loved her. Probably loved her more than he would’ve loved a stuck up princess. He didn’t have much of a choice about marriage, like most royals. (The idea of marrying for love even in royal circles has only really come into play in the real world in the past 50 years or less!)
swanning-offParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I think she lusted after him, after his power. I think Cora has a very time knowing what love really is. Only in her last moments did she realize what it was.
Agree with this. She thought she loved Rumplestiltskin but she just loved his power. And the king’s words that “love is weakness” just gave her an excuse to ensure she could never be distracted from her quest for power again.
Totally agree that it wasn’t until Regina shoved her heart back in that she realised what love is – she really did love her daughter and didn’t realise what that actually felt like until the very end.
Didn’t make me feel sorry for her though!
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