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Had at thought this evening at work; anyone remember how A&E said back in season 1 that their original plan was to kill off Charming in the pilot? But then they realized that it would mean that Snow White would never get her happy ending, and in a show about happy ending that just wouldn’t be right. Don’t you wish we could go back in time and get 2011’s A&E to come back and take another look at their story?
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I’m trying really hard to stay away this week. The only thing really trying to draw me back right now is anything related to Neal and how they deal with his death, but at the same time I know it will be disappointing and will hurt more to watch than anything. That, and his memory will probably disappear from the show by next week anyway, and then I’ll be doubly pained by it. I’ll wait until after the recaps are out and my aunt (who I talk about OUAT with every week) gives me a rundown, and then maybe I’ll consider downloading it, but I’m going to try really hard to ween myself from this unfulfilling addiction. OUAT is a bad bad drug. It might be really hard to stay away on Sunday, mostly out of habit and morbid curiosity.
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@heatherc1275 – I’m at work right now, so I can’t rewatch that scene to know for sure, but did Neal explicitly say he sent the message to Hook? I remember being confused about the wording in that scene. I think Hook said something about how Neal would have done the same, but it kind seemed like Neal was just thanking Hook for getting Emma to Storybrooke in general, not for having received the message he sent him specifically. Does anyone have the actual dialogue from the scene? I may very likely be wrong, and if so, I agree that it opens up a lot of questions as to how the hell Neal was able to get a message out when he was stuck inside of Rumple for a year.
Also, HUGS for your cousin. I hope there’s good news soon!
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I said before that I would watch the rest of the season and I will but my view of the show is very jaded now. I no longer have the same enthusiasm for Once as I did when it first started. I no longer trust Adam & Eddy on anything they say. What they did to MRJ and the character of Neal was nothing more the character assassination. I like others have said several pages back believe there has got to me more to this just judging by the complete shift in the direction of the story plus given MRJ taking to twitter to set the record straight on somethings surrounding his departure from Once. It was only after Michael took to twitter to set the record straight that Adam began to come out and face the fans and even then he did with a lot of sass and he managed to sidestep a lot of fans questions & the feedback that they were giving him. Then in that time the articles came out from TVLine, TVGuide, EOnline, Entertainment Weekly ,etc. What I find odd about the whole thing is there was nothing from castmates Josh,Ginny,JMo,Jared,Bobby,Emile,Collin,Lana about how great it was to work with him or anything like that.
Which is why I say something about this whole thing just isn’t right.
I’m with Heather on this one
I agree. Either this is because he’s not really gone, so saying goodbye online would be premature, or the more likely scenario is that something went down BTS and no one will talk about it. I wonder if 10 years from now one of the actors will write a biography, or a detailed account of what life was like BTS on that weird retro show OUAT that no one remembers. Only then will we really know. Can anyone go into the future and find me that book now?
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I was thinking about this while I was on lunch; are we in an abusive relationship with a TV show? Is that even possible? If you asked me 2 days about OUAT, I would have told you that it was dead to me. 2 days later and I’m reading spoilers again and some of the immediate hurt is starting to fade. Then I know something else is going to happen eventually (be it CS or what have you) and I’ll end up back here again wondering why I let myself me sucked in again, that I should have known better.
I’ve been watching OUAT since the first episode. Rumple was my favourite character from the start, but then by The Return, when it became obvious that The Curse was never really about Regina and Snow, but about Rumple and Bae, that changed everything for me. Over season 2 I fell in love with Neal and the happiness he and Emma had in the past, and while I still loved the show over all, episodes like Selfless, Brave, and True, and the constant ability of the writers to start a story thread and then forget all about it drove me mad. I still watched, but I kept hoping for any sign of SF, or just Neal, because it seemed like the one story that was closest to A&E’s heart, so therefore if I kept the faith I would eventually be rewarded with what seemed like the obvious happy ending. I could turn a blind eye to other inconsistencies, clunky dialogue, the infuriating imbalance of action vs. reaction, because eventually there would be SF, right? Right?
I still want A&E to tell me where I missed the signs. I refuse to believe that I should have known better because I refused to agree with the ABC marketing department about how Hook is the only character on the show I should care about or pay attention to. Blarg. I don’t even know anymore…
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@RG- I feel you. As the week has gone on and things have started to settle in I have moments where I forget how angry and hurt I am at A&E and the show. These moments are really only when I pop into the Now Filming thread and any new info for upcoming episodes are posted, but I think that might just be because at this point I’m so used to not seeing any MRJ/Neal information anyway, so it’s same old, same old. Then I come back here, or go on Tumblr and remember that things are different now and the show I had fallen in love with is gone, and that at least before there was the possibility, the hope that some new juicy Neal snippet would emerge. Now it just feel empty.
That said, when I’m looking at the new info, or new TVline gossip or what have you, I feel like an addict who doesn’t know how to cut something from their life. The logical part of me reminds me that I’ve been hurt, and they’re likely going to do it again, and that A&E can’t be trusted. That I should also be vindictive and cut them from my life, but yet like that addict I keep wanting to come back for another hit. It’s this weird crossroad and I don’t know what the right answer is.
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Is it just me, or the colour combination of Emma’s costume (white-ish dress + blue cape) remind them of Odette’s costume from the 90’s animated Swan Princess? I haven’t seen the movie in more than a decade, so I’m probably completely off, but that’s what comes to mind every time I see those BTS photos.
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Is it wrong that I want a detailed list from A&E with all the things and places where they foreshadowed Neal’s death? Because I still can’t see it, and I need someone to give me a legit run down of where I missed all these alleged signs. :: sigh ::
Also, @RG, thank you for taking up our cause tonight! I missed the live podcast, so I look forward to listening tomorrow. So so many hugs for you!
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I think one of the things that keeps getting to me, on top of the actual death and the awful way it came about, is A&E’s continued claims that it had to happen, that this was the natural progression of his story. I just can’t shake the feeling that we’re being BS’ed right to our faces. While I realize that the damage control from actually telling things straight would probably be 1000 times worse, it just feels like something is rotten in the state of Denmark. I fully admit that I I’m not the most objective person about this whole mess, but nothing about the groundwork and breadcrumbs in s1 and s2 seem to justify this being the natural, or ONLY course of the story, and I want to stop hearing A&E’s talking points about the whole thing. Yes, maybe it will all make sense by the end of the season, but from where I’m standing right now I’m just confused and betrayed and nothing makes sense.
If they do another panel at SDCC this year I hope this comes up, especially if the remaining episodes do nothing to justify throwing the master plan out of a window and letting children with a box of crayons rewrite it. Oops. I might be letting my anger show through…
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