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thebassgal
ParticipantMe too RG, me too. First thought that popped into my head too – so THAT’s the black fairy… Fairy/witch, kinda the same thing if you ask me…
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ParticipantWhat if WWW is Cora’s sister, instead of Regina’s. That’s pretty far out there, and Idk if there are any plans to have Cora making guest appearances, but it could be a thought. Another thought is could there be a connection between Cora, Snow’s mother, and WWW – for instance all three are sisters? Again, pretty far out, but to the best of my recollection, we have never seen Snow’s mother and Cora interact, so who knows.
Ava was Snow’s mother and she’s the one that tripped Cora. They’re not sisters because Ava was royalty and Cora was the Miller’s daughter. That’s why Cora killed Ava – she hated her for humiliating her.
thebassgal
ParticipantI really hope we see Rumple’s mother in the near future. Because, I’m very intrigued by her now after seeing who his father is. I kinda hope his mother was magical and that is why he was always near magic. (Ex. Magic bean, dagger, and the seer.)
My theories for Rumple’s mother:
1) Wicked Witch of the West from Oz (For some reason I like this theory)
2) Blue Fairy
3) Dorothy
4) Other character
I like the Dorothy idea. Maybe she and Malcolm were circus travelers or something, thinking to Oz the Great and Powerful. I am thinking she was a little crazy after her visit to Oz (or at least people thought she was, pulling from Return to Oz.). She ran away to join the circus or maybe eve the gypsies (could pull a little Hunchback in with Esmerelda) and she meets Malcolm there. She has little Rumple, but is called back to Oz (to save it from the Nome King as she does in The Marvelous Land of Oz and Ozma of Oz) from which she doesn’t return. The whole second half of the Oz story involves mirrors pretty heavily as well, since Ozma is trapped in one by Mombi and Dorothy is able to communicate back to Oz through one. Easy way to portal to Oz in OUAT. Also an easy way to segue into Oz as a land in OUAT by telling the rest of Rumple’s back story. So with Dorothy gone, Malcolm uproots with baby/little Rumple, assuming Dorothy has died and continues his life of crime, leading to nobody trusting him… leading to the Spinsters giving Rumple the bean which takes them to Neverland, etc, etc. I still think Sneaky Fairy IS the Wicked Witch of the West and faked her death in Oz to escape to the EF when the events of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz take place. And an out for Nova… perhaps SHE is Glinda since she was pink and inherently good, so I could see her being the Good Witch of the North. All the witches are actually fairies. Some good, some bad, some sneaky.
So when we think Sneaky Fairy might fake her death in Storybrooke, perhaps she is really jumping back to Oz to track down Dorothy to get her son under control (Rumple) when he goes all crazy and stabs DaddyPan. thebassgal
ParticipantActually new thought: what if the Shadow is being controlled by the Blue Fairy, and the whole hourglass is an illusion made to set Malcolm/Peter Pan off on a quest to find the heart of the truest believer. Because perhaps later on, maybe in Oz, Henry is the only one who can defeat the Blue Fairy and she needs to find a way to very indirectly get rid of him?
I will accept anything that makes Sneaky Fairy Sneaky. It has been the one theory I refuse to give up since S1. I also think the BF might be sisters/allies of the Wicked Witch.
I think Sneaky Fairy IS the Wicked Witch.
thebassgal
ParticipantI don’t buy the Pan = Papastiltskin either. If that were the case, his own great-grandson is the heart of the truest believer? Seems too easy. Why would he have to go through all the lost boys looking for the right boy? Not sure if I’m onboard TeamBrothers either. I still think Pan is Blue’s son, likely adopted. And Pan was not always evil, but precocious. Blue being sneaky fairy, had Pandora’s box but told Pan not to open it. He opened Pandora’s box and the evil inside the box was so intense that it ripped his shadow from him, thus creating the Shadow. United as one, the shadow and Pan aren’t any worse than an angsty teenager. Seperated and imbued with evil, they’re dangerous. I dunno…crack theory. Still trying to piece in the Pied Piper aspect.
thebassgal
ParticipantIn further interest of the name and origins of Pandora –
Pan – quite literally was the god of the flock, hence the pied piper connection.
Dora – Dora is a female name of Greek origin, derived from Dorothea (Dorothy) or Theodora,[1] meaning “God’s Gift”, from “δῶρον” (doron), “gift”[2] + “θεός” (theos), “god”.[3] The earliest form of the word is the Mycenaean Greek do-ra, meaning “gift”, written in Linear B syllabic script.[4] The name Dora can also be a short form of Isadora.[5]
Perhaps the person who opened the box was not really named Pandora after all, but the box was named for what it contained – Pan (the evil that infected whoever became Pan) and Dora (God’s gift – perhaps hope?)
thebassgal
ParticipantI think Pan is what came out of the box the first time which left hope inside. I think Gold’s intention is to release the hope to recapture the evil.
thebassgal
ParticipantAnother picture from Yappy Yap:
Just a different angle but it confirms where Henry is.
Also confirm Regina and Hook’s locations. And that Pan is getting “f!cked up”
thebassgal
ParticipantI’m going to combine my cracktastic theories 310: Blue “dies” but she is not really dead. Instead she POOFs herself to Oz where magic is still alive and hearty and she meets up with her ally the Wicked Witch of the West. Everyone in SB thinks she is dead. 311: The final battle between Pan and Rumple and the rest. Pan actually dies and Rumple’s undoing is that his DO curse breaks. cliffhanger: blue is revealed to really be alive and plotting her revenge.
Love your theory about the Blue Fairy.
I don’t think that Sneaky Fairy is best friends with the Wicked Witch of the West… I think she IS the Wicked Witch of the West and man is she gonna be pissed when Rumple kills her son (PP). I think it’s obvious PP has been to OZ because of his knowledge and use of poppy. He may have even been born there. Sneaky Fairy poofs off to Oz to harness her FULL powers. Ha…I’m crackin tonight…
thebassgal
ParticipantI am thinking absolutely in FTL of the past… Regina’s not been to Neverland and she had a problem with a certain mermaid.
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