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@hjbau wrote:
I am not sure that Rumpel knows exactly what that bottle of love is going to do. I think he knew it would bring magic back, but i don’t think he understands exactly what that means in the real world.
Good point. The writers made a point of constantly reminding us that magic is unpredictable in this world. So, even if Rumpel thought he had a good grasp on the situation, he could have easily been wrong. There’s no way to predict these sort of things.
[adrotate group="5"]@hjbau wrote:
I do agree TheDarkOne, that there is something about the theory that Bae is the father that just rings true. Because it is so neat and adds the connection. And then makes Henry the one who can sort of bring these characters together, It is like the black and white of it all. Like the good guys daughter and the bad guys son. The Romeo and Juliet of it all. That sort of very normal plot form going on there. I think for me though i would rather Bae know who Emma is somehow, maybe he is in contact with the Blue Fairy, i have no idea, but just have him meeting Emma not be an accident. The falling in love or whatever happened between them could be something that was unexpected, but maybe have them meeting be something that happened on purpose. And maybe if the father is Bae and he doesn’t know Emma, that somehow someone else could know and contrived for them to meet. I think that when it comes down to it i don’t quite like that their meeting would just be completely accidental.
And maybe they could say Emma caused it. Like there was sort of the suggesting that when Emma wished on the blue star candle that she didn’t have to be alone on her birthday that somehow that could have caused Henry to come to her. Maybe the magic of that moment caused the lead up. I would be fine with this. I am not sure the writers are that thoughtful though.
I’d also like for there to a more solid reason for why Bae and Emma met. I’ve always held the theory that the Blue Fairy had been keeping tabs on Baelfire after she sent him to our world. Maybe she felt obligated to take care of him and became his fairy god-mother. Maybe she told him about Emma’s existance. If Baelfire was able to contact Fairytale land, then I wouldn’t be too surprised if Baelfire found out about Emma’s existence. He’s the reason why the curse exists, so I would think that he would want to learn more about the girl who would break that curse.
But once again, I’m just pulling theories out of thin air at this point.
@hjbau wrote:
I am fine with it was meant to be and it was destiny to a point and this might be the point for me. It would be just a bit too much.
The writers did say that they would focus on Emma’s search for true love in future seasons, and a lot of people seem to think that it will be Bae. So, if Bae is in fact Henry’s father, then it was definitely meant to be.
@A_Desperate_Soul wrote:
I think true love will factor heavily into season 2. We’ve already seen that true love has the ability to create the most powerful magic in the world, so I think those who possess it will have a greater advantage next season. Particularly with the magic Rumpel released into Storybrooke. I think only those who have true love in their lives can access the magic. I honestly don’t see why Rumpel would release all that magic knowing that it would give Regina a leg up. It makes no sense. I think he released it knowing that everyone would be able to use it except Regina.
I think you just nailed it. Rumpel wouldn’t allow all of these various magical creatures to use magic unless it would benifit him in some way. And since the new magic is true love, Regina may end up being the only one who won’t be able to use it. Daniel is dead and we can’t be too sure of her love for Henry. So, she’s the only one without true love by her side. Emma has Henry, Snow has Charming and Rumpel has Belle and Baelfire isn’t too far off in the distance. The writers wanted to reunite all the characters with their true loves in the season finale for a reason. True love will be the greatest asset of all next season.
Thanks for the quotes hjbau!
I think a larege chunk of the information that fans have gathered as “evidencce” that Bae is Henry’s father are quotes from the creators themselves. There is no solid evidence that Bae is the father, and yet, I can’t help but think that’s exactly what’s going to happen. Even though my only evidence are a few ambiguous quotes, the whole Baelfire=firefighter thing, and the fact that Bae was sent to a world without magic.
I think a lot of people believe the theory because it’s just too coincidental. Why would the writers send Bae to our world? There were a ton, and I mean A TON of different explanations they could have come up with as to why Rumpel created the curse. And yet, they settled on this one. Once again, I know I’m just pulling theories out of thin air, but there’s just something about theory that feels…true. Out of all the theories about who could possibly be Henry’s father (August, Graham, Dr. Whale, even freaking Jefferson 😆 ) this is the only one that sounds right. But like I just said, the theories prior to this one were so laughably weak that any other theory could come along and smash it to pieces. 😆
But I’m not going to lie, I really like the theory. I like the idea of Henry being the one thing that all the warring on this show factions have in common. He’d be connected to the Charmings, connected to Rumpel’s family, and also to Regina. I think it’s very beautiful. These three different sides can fight and argue all they want, but at the end of the day, they’ll all have to stop for Henry’s sake. I hope the writers revisit that theme in future seasons.
I also like the idea of Emma and Bae being orphans together. For all we know, Bae could have popped out the vortex around the same time Emma was 14. I could easily see them being drawn to each other due to their tragic backgrounds. They were both parentless, from Fairytale land and are directly conencted to the curse. Baelfire being the inspiration and reasoning for the curse and Emma being it’s ender. I like the poetry of it all. 😀
@Elle wrote:
I think he will use the magic to find Bae–it is doubtful that he has given up searching for him. And now that Belle is alive he will probably want to protect her from Regina, who is going to be in major trouble, and not just from Rumpelstiltskin but from everyone.
But his last words were ominous–Magic is power. The way he looked and said it makes me think he is very much hungry for it. But then again, since this was planned in the beginning (and recaling his actions in The Return) it is still mysterious. He seemed to regret wanting magic when he thought he had found Bae, and yet he thrives in it.
That’s what I’m trying to wrap my head around too. He seems to have two conflicting motives. Actually, maybe three. He wants to find Bae, he wants to protect Belle, but he also wants power. But at the same time, his conversation with August in “The Return” made me think that he was ready to give up magic and power. So, I’ll choose to believe that it isn’t power that he’s after.
There’s also the issue of the “final battle” that has yet to be addressed. Does he need magic to fight in the battle? Does he plan on giving it to Emma and Snow?
My main suspects are The Blue Fairy, Rumpel and Baelfire. My main reasoning for this is because they all have a personal stake making sure the book gets written. Rumpel would need someone to find the book and help Emma break the curse. It also doesn’t hurt that his story is largely missing from the book. I think that’s why it’s been so difficult to identify and defeat Mr. Gold. No one knows who he is or what his story or motications are. That automatically gives him the upper hand.
The Blue Fairy would definitely want the book to be written so that she could help document everything that led up to the curse and so that someone would also help Emma break the curse. However, if she is the author of the book, I’d like an explanation for why she left out so much information. Particularly Rumpel’s story and her role in Gepetto’s deception against Snow and Charming.
I could also see Baelfire as the author especially if turns out to be Henry’s father. He’d probably want his son to have the book so that he could help his mother break the curse. I could also see him leaving out Rumpel’s story, either out of love and the desire to protect his father, or out fear of being discovered. However, the issue of time and space puts a damper on this theory. Baelfire disappeared from Fairytale land centuries before the curse took place.
It’s anybody’s guess right now. But for the most part, my main suspects are still The Blue Fairy, Rumpel and Baelfire.
I have no idea how Jefferson new about Belle. The only thing I’m sure of is that Jefferson wants to use Mr. Gold to help seek revenge against Regina. I honestly see him becoming an ally of Mr. Gold’s in season 2. They have a common enemy: Regina. I think Mr. Gold will allow Jefferson to join his ranks out of gratitude for rescuing Belle. However, he will probably demand Jefferson’s hat as paymanet for helping him seek revenge against Regina. Rumpel will need that hat if he discovers that Baelfire wasn’t sent to this world. If he has the hat, he’ll be able to visit 20 other worlds. It’s also a pretty impressive escape device.
@hjbau wrote:
They need to be careful with that. Too much magical ability becomes an issue. Like for Rumpel so far it hasn’t matter because he has wanted Snow, Charming, and Emma to do something for him so he has had no reason to harm them, but things like having Regina make Charming disappear into the infinite forest is an issue. And Regina did it through the mirror which brings up the question as to why she didn’t just grab Snow earlier on and bring Snow to her through the mirror. Maybe she can only send people to the infinite forest when she does that, i don’t know, but they have already made issues with the show by making the magic too powerful and that is just one incident so they need to be careful with how powerful they make Emma if they give her magic.
Very good point. Besides, it would be be far more interesting to see what Emma can do without the use of magic. She managed to slay that dragon all by herself without any help from magic. So, magic may not be as big of an issue for her as it might be for others. Emma’s pretty self-reliant when it comes to protecting herself and those she loves. I think she’ll manage.
