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A lot of “stall” episodes. In other words, the episode or episodes that came right after those were far more important but to stretch the narrative to 22 episodes per season, they had to insert episodes that barely moved the plot forward.
Well exactly. And this was the reason why I was kinda down on season 2. So many great parts, but some really dragged. And this was why I was so much in favor of doing the half season arcs. And after Season 3a and how it ended, I was REALLY on board. But somewhere along the road since then, they have lost their way in character development due to their fascination with sparkly new toys. You can still keep the overarching arc prominent in half seasons. But for them, it’s like a clean slate each time, and it doesn’t have to be that. It also doesn’t help that they keep switching their minds at the end of these arcs all the time and it’s painfully obvious to the conscientious observer. I honestly hope for a 22 episode non half season, like 1 and 2, for their final season, season 6. If they get that season.
100% agree. I thought Siege Perilous was actually a good set up episode for those two. And then they lost all my good will the very next week with Arthur and his magical mind rape.
Take away the mind rape, which they have done on this show before so it wasn’t a shocker for me at all, and I actually enjoyed The Broken Kingdom. I know I am in the minority on here with that, but oh well.
Worst episodes for season 2 for me: Child of the moon, Into the Deep, The Cricket Game, Tiny (gosh tiny was kinda bad, although I guess original), The Queen is Dead (not sure why I din’t like this one but I remember not liking it), and The Evil Queen.
Congrats. You might be the only person in the entire fandom who doesn’t rank SB and T down towards the very bottom of the entire series. Though, looking back it wasn’t as bad some other episodes. It was once my #1 least favorite episode; now it’s like…5 o r 6?
What’s funny is, it reminded me of Lost. Don’t remember why. But it felt like a Lost feeling, and I was intrigued by Tamara at the time, and I enjoyed her interactions with August and The Dragon. At the time, I assumed the taser was magical. When we find out that it’s just a taser, well that was a let down.
These retrospective things are really making me hate 5a. Talk about the worst two episodes to finish a half season arc.
Favorite episode: The Queen of Hearts
Honorable Mentions: The Crocodile, Tallahassee, Manhattan, Welcome to Storybrooke, Selfless, Brave and True
Favorite Character Introduced: Mulan
Honorable Mentions: Hook, Dr. Whale, Tamara, Neal
Favorite Moment: Cora can’t pull out Emma’s heart and Emma says “Love isn’t weakness. It’s strength.”
Honorable Mentions: Rumple kills Milah and takes off Hook’s hand, Emma runs into Neal in Manhattan, Regina lets Owen go, Cora looks genuinely happy to see her daughter Regina after her heart is put back in her body just before she dies, Tamara and Greg kiss revealing Tamara was “her” on his phone, Emma kicking Tamara’s butt and then losing Neal in the portal
I loved Neal being Baelfire. I also loved Hook in season 2…and into season 3a.
I also liked the reveal of who Dr. Whale was. I thought it was clever.
The neverland thing did feel rushed. However, I thought there was only so much they could do with Cora and I think her story could have dragged if they kept her arc for the whole season. What I would have actually liked was if they explored who the Dragon was, and have that tie in to the real world actually being a threat to take down magic in storybrooke. I still think we could get something like this in the final season. Hopefully there is some final battle in either storybrooke or EF.
And after looking back on this season, although there were some bumps and fillers, (child of the moon cough), I think I can appreciate it more. It says just how far the show has fallen.
Yeah, I agree it would be odd not to get a full episode for Hades. It just seems so late in the game for it. Like are we really going to have this new character going around the whole half season, and we only get ot see into his motivations until like the penultimate episode? What annoyed me a lot about season 3B was that we never knew Zelena’s endgame until near the end and I hope that’s not what is happening here. It makes me think whatever Hades does or is trying to do, with directly impact the finale and possibly where they go for season 6.
Alright, I’ll be the one to shed some resistance on this haha. Nothing has pissed me off more than the writing of Snow White’s character. She is the definition of character assassination. You will not get an argument from me on this character. She is beyond defendable.
However, I do not think she is superfluous. While she has been completely useless for the last two seasons or so, she is so important to the overarching themes of the show, and as you said, it all started with her and Charming and Regina. That is not the best reason to keep her around, but I do believe she will be vital in how the writers want to end the show. If and when they bring back in the themes they started with (happy endings, hope, etc etc.), Snow will have more to say/do. She is useless when it comes to going to Neverland, and Camelot, and the UW, but when the story refocuses the core characters that started it all when it’s sprinting to the finish line, I think she will be necessary, and her and Charming’s love will be necessary.
As far as the whole egg thing, honestly I wouldn’t have had a huge problem with it if the writing was better. It was how they tried to hide it from Emma in Storybrooke, and then how the writers muddled with it, saying that some of it was the author’s fault, etc. etc. Listen, good guys make mistakes. And that’s what they wanted to convey. But like, the whole reasoning behind why they stole the egg (make sure Emma doesn’t go dark and yet she ended up having the same potential for darkness anyway, which then resulted in nothing because we haven’t seen Lily since), was just horrible. If it made sense, and we saw the story play out and Lily becoming super dark and Emma maybe not going dark because of what Snow and Charming did, then maybe you could understand and even defend their actions a bit. But no, we got a half put together story line which we didn’t see through because Emma just became the DO anyway, and then we had Snowing lying about it for like many episodes. Just come clean and own it. And explain why you did it. For me, Snowing has pissed me off, not because of horrible things they have done to cloud the light we associate them with, but because of the horrible inconsistent writing and them not knowing what to do with them. And now recently, just having them stand by the sidelines imputing little lines here and there is so frustrating because they could do so much more with them(actually I enjoyed Charming’s Siege Perilous episode bc I actually could understand why he would want to be more than just a Prince who woke Snow White with a kiss). But we have gotten nothing for Snow. All she does is input a hope line here or there, hold her baby, or more recently, completely neglect baby Neal for the UW. Frustrating writing has made me hate the character, not a bad action like egg stealing.
