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That’s what I’m hoping for, but knowing the writers, they may not be able to resist doing a “what if they actually met as kids this entire time” twist.
Uhh I really hope not. The only way I’m ok with that is if they were young and they do meet, but they don’t know who they are. Regina just remembers meeting a girl from OZ and vice versa. If I see a memory wipe from Cora, I will not be pleased.
I have to disagree–the fear drives his addiction. With power, he is less afraid because it’s harder for things to hurt him.
Potentially yes. I guess it depends on whether you look at his lust for power more of a product of his cowardice and fear, or his addiction to being able to be in control where nothing can stop him. And perhaps not wanting to give up that power and control is reflective on his cowardice and why he may still be just a scared man. If the writers really dug in to the core of Rumple, as to WHY he wants the power so bad, and WHY he even has this addiction, you are right, it may be because he simply is afraid to become a normal person getting picked on again and that drives his motivations and his addiction.
Is there any chance that we see two separate stories here? We see Regina grow up with Cora and Zelena with her father and they don’t necessarily meet? It just gives us background on what shaped them to become the people they became and sheds light on some current present day stuff that happens in Storybrooke or the UW…just a thought. It would be better if they never had met before honestly.
I don’t know who that is. Who’s Henry?! Henry Henry Henry. I can’t stand how the show has dismissed him as relevant to Emma’s story. HE broke her walls. HE was the one who really changed her heart. It wasn’t Neal. It wasn’t Hook. To lesser extents, yes, we can talk about MM and the grand town of SB and its inhabitants who adopted the little orphan girl…BUT IT WAS HENRY. HENRY.
They really need to go back to this. even I can see that Hook was shoved down our throats and Henry has been put by the wayside, even though it was Henry who “saved” Emma.
but if you don’t like reading about Hook and CS being dumped on here, then I encourage and ask that you ignore it.
Oh I had no issues reading about the criticism of Hook. I find it interesting. That’s why I responded to them. I was simply offering another view on it. Not a personal view, like I’m trying to attack you, simply more of a devil’s advocate view if you will.
So here’s the deal with Rumple. I absolutely see the fear side of it. It is definitely there. No doubt. It is one of the many characteristics that embodies him. However, for me, and this is why I have zero problem with the show turning him into a full fledged villain, his desire for power (addiction) is the most prevalent and has been the most consistent part of his character. This addiction caused him to lose his son, it caused him to get thrown out of Storybrooke by Belle, and it’s caused him to revert back to his old self and not accept the blank slate hero status he could have chosen. Even when he was more of a gray character, he manipulated things to benefit himself so he could stay in control, and on top. Now, it’s just more in our face.
I think the show has made it very clear that Rumple was a coward only before he became the DO. Since then, I have not seen his cowardice until this past season, but that’s because he wasn’t the DO anymore. So he’s only a coward when he isn’t the DO.
As far as hero, he is not. He never will be in my eyes. He never had that kind of personality in my opinion. Maybe the writers want to go back to that, and maybe he can be the man who sacrificed himself at the end of 3A, but I just don’t see it and quite frankly, I don’t want to see it. I want to see Rumple pay for his sins and lack of control over his thirst for power. And I want to see Emma finish him off. All these seasons and we still have not seen a magic fight between Emma and Rumple. I find that shocking and it makes me think they are saving it. They are clearly the two most powerful people. It should end with them.
But make no mistake, Rumple is a good man. Tough to swallow, but yes that’s what I think. He has a problem. He has an addiction. He was given the powers of the DO unwillingly, and once he got a taste of not being a coward and having all this power, he could not let it go, even for his son. He loved his son, and he still could not let go of his powers. He did it once, and that should have been it. But they brought him back from the dead and you just can’t go back now. He does horrible despicable things and manipulates the alleged love of his life constantly, but he definitely is not a bad man. He is a villain, because he can’t control himself, but there is a good man in there still. Whether the writers decide to write him as the guy who saves everyone in the end, or whether he will be the big bad to finish off, is still up in the air and I think the writers could go either way.
Rumple will always be my favorite character on this show and I hope they don’t screw up his character any more than they already have. Make the final season (next year) all about taking him down.
I actually agree with you — Rumple’s search for power has been consistently presented as a symptom of his villainy.
Hey! We found something we agree on! Haha. One down, and like 3454544 people to go.
Basically the writers took a complex layered character like Rumple and turned him into a moustache twirling cardboard villain in order to make Hook look better by comparison.
Disagree. This seems like unfair blame on the writers. Saying that they needed to make Rumple worse just so they could make Hook palatable, seems like you are just picking on the Hook character. I don’t think these two are mutually exclusive. Not everything revolves around CS.
While I don’t dismiss his eleventh-hour about-face, I also think he should stay dead.
No argument from me on this one.
Nothing is different between Rumpel now, in my opinion, and Rumpel in Season 1. He is exactly as i have always thought he was.
You will get quite the resistance on this. But based on everything I’ve seen, and how I’ve always seen Rumple, I tend to agree more along the lines of what you said. While there are parts of Rumple’s life, especially early on with Bae and Milah, that point to Rumple being more misunderstood and deep down only did certain things for his son, there are just too many examples that point to him only caring about the power. And it is only really in that one characteristic, that I believe Rumple hasn’t changed. It is only one part of his character, but it seems like it has been the driving force behind his character since becoming the DO. Obviously there is so much more to Rumple that makes him so complex, and based on the writing recently, also very confusing and inconsistent. But that one trait has always remained the same I think.
Like others have said, if Rumple or Emma don’t get a pass for bad things they did as dark ones than neither does Hook. I also don’t think that a good deed omits one’s guilt of a bad deed.
Well said. We can’t dismiss the bad things Hook did, but we can’t dismiss him making the right decision and fighting it in the end.
