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efore this show ends I want one epic, giant, Harry Potter style magic battle.
I mean that’s sort of what they are trying to set us up for right? I mean the last time there was a “battle” going on where there were little mini fights going on between different people at the same time was when the gang met up with the Lost boys in Neverland and fought them for a bit. Which was awesome. We got Hook fighting Pan’s right hand man, Snow shooting arrows, Charming getting hit with dreamshade, Regina throwing fireballs. That’s what needs to happen. But will their budget allow for it? That’s such a concern. I’m really hoping they saved enough money in their CGI budget to do a proper battle between multiple people. If they didn’t, then this “battle” is going to blow.
[adrotate group="5"]Exactly, like this isn’t a final battle if it’s just her vs the world haha. The fact that this affects other realms is intriguing. Like if they have other people from other realms come to storybrooke to fight in this battle on the good side, she’s got to have people on the bad side too right? But honestly who is there? Not Zelena, not Regina, and now not Rumple. Although her being so sure that he will switch to her side before all is said and done makes me think Rumple could switch allegiances. But I just don’t think they are going to go that route with him. So literally who else could she get to help her. Gideon will likely get his heart back too at some point. EQ is gone. Jafar is defeated. I don’t know of any filmng spoilers but basically this all feels like some good people may join her side. If it’s just her vs everyone else, I kinda would be a little disappointed.
But I think the reason Gideon is not “Gidiana” is that he has to function as a foil for Emma, and as such I think they felt like he has to be the opposite gender.
I also think they knew Black Fairy was coming and they didn’t want two women again as the antagonists. Too similar to the Queens of Darkness perhaps.
Introducing a new character like Tiger Lily, and incorporating her randomly into Black Fairy’s past makes me think they aren’t going to give Blue an important role (aka Sneaky Fairy) in Black Fairy’s flashback. But I really hope I’m wrong. If “the darkness is coming” according to Black Fairy, what on Earth does she mean? If it’s a final battle, I picture people on both sides battling a war. And she seems like she’s waiting for allies or something. THAT makes me think perhaps others we didn’t think were dark, are going to turn out to be dark and she’s just waiting to reveal them for the final battle.
Well I think my question was more about how Neal would react to Gideon being wrapped by Black Fairy. I mean, this is a kid who to a whole other realm to escape his Dark One Papa. I think I would have really liked Neal and Gideon interacting and Neal trying to help his little brother understand Rumple because Gideon has some serious Papa issues, lol.
The problem is that Neal sort of flip flopped in how he felt about Rumple once he met him again. At first, he hated him. Then he sort of came around. Then he didn’t trust him again, then came back around again before he died. So I’m not sure what Neal would tell Gideon. It would depend on his current mood about his father, which changes mainly bc Rumple flip flops between decent human being to power hungry psycho. So assuming Neal knew everything that Rumple has done for the past few seasons (taking the DO power back, but not really using it for evil per se and not really seeking out power, at least not since the Olympian Crystal days), I would say that Neal would tell Gideon to trust his father. And he would shed light on Rumple and explain him to Gideon. Neal would be a nice bridge for Gideon and Rumple to get along so Rumple could have a better relationship with him than he did with Baelfire.
The flashback thing might be part of it, but I actually think people are drawn to like individuals. I know there’s that saying that opposites attract but I don’t find that to be true in OUAT-land. Look at the major couples –Snowing, both highly moral, archetypal if you will in terms of heroism, but both can be a little selfish and myopic. –Rumbelle: both want to be heroes but find it hard because of socio-political reasons (Belle’s a woman and like she said “there aren’t many opportunities for women in this land”); and Rumple can’t “be a man” because he ran from the war even though his act of running was spurred by his son and his fear in equal measure (I might argue the son aspect outweighs the other fear, actually) –Emma saw herself in Neal and she sees herself in Hook. Interestingly, when she agreed to help Gideon it was because she saw Henry in him (another child who has some abandonment issues).
Hmm very true. Well then in that case, the show seems to be pairing these people together quite realistically.
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Thanks!
Well I was just comparing it to Blue bc to me, at this point, it feels like it would be out of nowhere given how little they’ve done with Blue so far. And to me, it would feel a little like they are just appeasing the fanbase. And I was curious when you said that you would applaud them if they did reveal sneaky fairy since you did not like that they randomly said Black Fairy was Rumple’s mother and you said that was for the fans. I mean sure, there have been times when Blue did stuff which left things open for interpretation, but she’s never explicitly done anything bad. Everything has sort of just been speculation. So to me, revealing sneaky fairy would be amazing, but just as out of left field as Black being Rumple’s mother.
HAHAHAHA yeah sure. Writers never said that, nice try. They said they’ve been setting Hook and Emma up since the beanstalk episode. They said during the press for 2×06 that Emma and Hook are kindred spirits and they confirmed the sparks that were set up in that episode as did JMO. They said that Hook may be a good one night stand for Emma in S2A but that was the start of their story. Glad they didn’t succumb to that attraction till when they did. It made it more rewarding and that nod to The Princess Bride was all kinds of amazing, JMO really loved that moment.
I do vaguely recall when the writers said Hook would be a god one night stand. I remember thinking that was hilarious bc I thought the chemistry between them was solid and could be more than just a fling. They likely said that bc Neal was still in the picture.
Vaguely!? The fact that you can’t even remember when it happened is further proof of what I’m saying. And no that’s not the only time where him being abandoned by his father was brought up. It was suggested during 2×06 episode that he much like Emma was abandoned, cause he knew the look in her eyes as he’s seen it in Neverland and himself a lost boy. This was also brought up multiple times in S3 as well as in 4×07(there was more to the scene but it was cut however Adam posted the script about the rest of the scene), before it was brought to the surface in flashback in 5×10.
Yeah like when Hook told that to Bae, that was an important scene. Hard to forget, for me at least.
What a shock though to you anyway, that he was telling the truth. So without a mother(she was gone by the time he was a child) and a father that abandoned him I would say that equated him to an orphan. Also which one of those is a “retcon” because the one about kindred spirits has been around since 2×06, the one about him fighting for his loved ones is displayed all the time in the beginning through his revenge quest for Milah, the one about denying being sentimental was 2×11 when Belle saw that Hook kept the cloth Milah made for Bae, the one about the tattoo’s they both had was in 2×06. So which one of these is a retcon? Cause they all happened very early on in the series.
And preach. Hook is an orphan. Like he is. Perhaps it doesn’t get talked about as much as Emma being one, but that doesn’t mean both Emma and Hook can’t be compared to each other as far as orphans go. To me, it’s quite interesting that Emma fell for two guys, both orphans like herself. Or perhaps the writers just simply don’t have any original ideas anymore and just keep going back to parents leaving their children in flashbacks haha
“Of course the Black Fairy is Rumple’s mother. It’s never been hinted at, he had no reaction to the mention of the Black Fairy back in S3, but OF COURSE she’s his mother! This is total fan service because everyone keeps pestering the writers about Rumple’s mother. It doesn’t matter to the plot at large, it doesn’t matter to Rumple’s character because it’s never been hinted at after SIX years, it doesn’t matter except as shock value and make the audience stop asking those annoying questions during Hot Seats.” RG
Pretty much disagree with everything here considering where the plot is now and how good the dynamic between her and Rumple was in the last episode.
