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Well I think he nailed his answer. Neal never liked Hook very much. But he loved Emma unconditionally. And now that he has moved on, I think MRJ is right that Neal just wants Emma to be happy, whoever that may be with.
[adrotate group="5"]How delusional are these people? I mean I think we all agree that this back half has been pleasantly surprising in comparison to the front half, but still. The ratings are abysmal. Do they really think ABC is going to allow them to continue to a season 7? This disturbs me because it seems they aren’t seeing the writing on the wall and I’m afraid ABC is going to tell them it’s over, and they won’t have enough time to properly plan the ending. What they should be doing, is planning season 6 to be their ending so they do it right. Uhhh…
Here’s the thing: Hook’s the adult. Hook should act like it. Teens are moody and Bae has literally been through more in his short life than most people experience over several lifetimes. We’re back to Hook’s emotional age and his sensitivity. Bae won’t play by Hook’s rules, so Hook sells his “son” to Pan. I mean, I got angry with my mom a lot when I was a teen. She didn’t kick me out of the house or give me up for adoption. And in this case, Hook feeling bad means nothing to me when Bae was sleeping in a cave, drawing pictures of home and hand letting him go by coconut-light, feeling rejected, alone, abandoned for 100+ years.
Didn’t Pan have something over him though? Or did Pan say he would let Hook leave or something. I remember thinking although Bae acted out, Hook sort of reluctantly did it to help himself and free him from Neverland. Selfish yes. But at least it wasn’t just because of a teen rebellious moment. But again, my memory is pretty foggy around this timeline for some reason.
Yeah I agree. Absolutely. I just remember thinking that the scene where he did give Bae up seemed hard on Hook as well, and didn’t Hook even get cold feet at the last second and try and not give Bae away? I could be way wrong about this, but at the very least, I remember Hook not loving that he did that. And yeah, like even Bae acknowledged in the present that Hook meant a lot to him, I thought. Could be wrong there as well.
Other than giving Baelfire up to the lost boys, I was under the impression we were supposed to think Hook was a good mentor for him.
Maybe discipline isn’t the right word, but Hook still shouldn’t be speaking that way to Emma and Regina’s son.
Yeah that’s fair.
He shouldn’t be disciplining him, period
A sarcastic comment followed by a legitimate question turns into disciplining. My goodness.
That don’t do anything to soften the sarcasm, though. Hook gets clued in that Henry is blacking out, literally, and apparently being taken over by Pen-Bob, and no one apologizes. No one is sympathetic. Hook doesn’t take back what he’s said, he doesn’t try to assure Henry that they’ll solve this and he’s grateful that Henry is trying his best, in spite of really bizarre circumstances. What does happen is “looks like we have a teenager on our hands” making Henry out to be emotionally unstable because of age, but not correcting the sass from before.
Oh yeah, well that Emma line was ridiculous. But like, Hook said something sarcastic, and you’re right he didn’t apologize. But he didn’t say, “Henry you suck. This is awful.” I just think people say sarcastic things all the time, and don’t apologize. I mean, sure it would have been nice to get something from Hook like, “Oh, well ok then. Let’s figure out why you are blacking out.” But no one said anything. They focused on the teenager thing which was just dumb writing. The writers were trying to incorporate some moodiness with Henry but all of it just seemed off and unrealistic. And again, Henry isn’t “trying his hardest.” He didn’t do any of the writing. It’s literally out of his hands. So to me, that’s not a reasonable thing to say to him.
I’m not Hook’s biggest fan, but I think it was simply a sarcastic remark which was meant to be a stand-in for the audience’s reaction to Henry’s poor writing (which is a stand-in for the writers’). Henry’s line of “I’m doing my best!” is a very meta statement for the writers, who identify with Henry. They feel that we (like Hook) are frustrated by it and criticizing their efforts. Having said that, Hook’s tone came across as ungrateful, cruel and unsympathetic to the teenage son of the woman he professes to love. While I get that this is the writers’ meta way of showing how cruel the audience’s criticism of their writing comes across, it pretty much just underscored how poor a father figure Hook really is to Henry.
And if that is your take, that’s totally fine. I agree with a lot of that. It was rather snarky and sarcastic for sure. I only decided to comment because the words “mean” and “bullying” came up and I thought that was just a silly notion and overreaction to a sarcastic comment that everyone in the room was thinking. And despite his age, I just thought it was unrealistic for Henry to not say anything about him actually not writing any of it before showing everyone.
