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đ *holding The watcher baby Kangaroo*
Love it thank you! I would also like to mention that I follow Rose McGowan’s instagram and she posted a picture were it looks like she just gave birth to a baby. She commented saying “had to give birth yesterday” and this was only a day or two after posting another picture of Canadian money and OUAT is filmed in Canada right cuz I saw the same money with the actress who plays Rapunzel while she was filming. In any case I get the feeling we are going to see Cora give birth. Ooooooh!!! So excited! đ
[adrotate group="5"]I keep seeing interviews stating that the Wicked Witch’s backstory is going to be in episode 16 “It’s not easy being green” while Rose McGowan is returning in episode 18 so that episode might not even be related to the Wicked Witch but just regarding more of Regina’s past or maybe even Rumple or just more of why Cora hated Eva so much. More like a Snow and Regina episode. I mean it’s possible considering now we see Regina and Snow’s relationship growing.
Quickly, this is my theory. I really haven’t read any other theory on this general discussion topic but here it is. I believe that Rumple didn’t die that the curse of the dark one was only broken. The reason for this is that the parallels to Rumple’s story and Beast’s transformation from Beauty and the Beast is so similar, that it makes me jump for joy. Rumple’s curse of the dark one came from his cowardice, Beast curse was that he needed to learn to love someone for something other than beauty. So in the winter finale Rumple finally decided to be brave and save his love ones without magic, just his true self which is why he never took the cuff off. He had to hold Pan down and in the process stabbing himself with his own dagger, he had to stab himself if he was strongly holding on to Pan so that he couldn’t get away. In Beast case he learned from Belle that one can be loved from something other than Beauty. Also while being stabbed by a dagger, in his case Geston’s, however you spell his name, dagger. Both Rumple and Beast where then engulfed in light.
Beast Transformation:
Rumple’s Transformation:
http://youtu.be/DsU7N_Uhq1gNow for me the question is where in the world did the light send him, he is no longer The Dark One so he most likely is no longer immortal. I do believe he might still be able to use magic though. You do not have to be The Dark One to use magic, Regina is proof of that, it can be learned and him being able to teach Regina shows he knows how to do it. What if Rumple has landed in Oz. It has often been speculated that Rumple might be the cowardly lion since he was the coward and a beast. Here is where my crazy idea comes in, what if he is not only the cowardly lion, but the embodiment or all three of Dorothy’s companions. What if this transformation has left him without a memory, he would be missing all the things Dorothy’s companions were originally looking for, the strength of bravery he gained to break his curse (making him sort of a coward again), his memory (Knowledge, which could be an addition to his cowardly way, he can’t use magic if he doesn’t remember) and a heart (his love, Belle). Just a crazy notion, in any case this could be something really amazing and it has made me really excited of what is to come. I for one am positive he ain’t dead.
I know I’m gonna cry, I know I’m gonna cry… gahhhhh!!! D-: Its going to be gone for months whhyyy!!!! I hope Rumple survives đ
You guys, I feel sick and nervous… I just know I am going to cry next weekend! đ Is it possible for someone to block the curse? I mean Cora did it right? Maybe they are able to block the curse, but for not completely and the entire town is affected except for a couple of people, primarily our heroes, and yes I am including Regina in there.
Maybe this is a way of returning to what the first season was about. I have seen a lot of people on forums, twitter and Facebook complaining that they liked the first season better, though I happen to like it the way it is right now. I hope it doesn’t because Belle and Rumple separated again, AGAIN!!! NO!
That is the only thing I am nervous about the fate of Rumple if he does hold the heart that Pan needs.
So I donât think this is a back pedal. There is a big difference between feeling regret and remorse. You can feel guilty about an action but at the same time not regret that it happened. Especially if something good came out of all of that.
When Regina was tied to the tree talking about all that sheâs done, the murder, torture, etc, she actually did sound remorseful. She knew that stuff was wrong and she acknowledged that without Henry she would have felt regret for all the destruction she caused. But she doesnât because without the curse, and the murder, and the torture, Snow doesnât meet Charming, Emma isnât born, and Henry doesnât exist. And she will happily choose her son over anything else in the world. To me that was one of her most self aware moments in the entire series.
People are complaining that sheâs ruined her redemption, but Iâm lets be honest here. What kind of redemption are you expecting? She was literally Hitler to the enchanted forest. Bat *&^% insane for 15ish years. You donât just wash that darkness off your soul. Could she perhaps join the good guys and become some sort of anti-hero? Perhaps. Is that what she wants as a character? I really donât know. Since the curse broke sheâd pretty much been focused on getting Henry back. Once they return to Storybrooke and everything settles down (LOL itâs never going to settle down), then perhaps she can go see Archie and figure out who and what she wants to be. But at this moment, she doesnât care about redemption or her own happy ending. She just wants her son home and safe.
Now in terms of the promo, I think it has to deal more with the towns issues with Regina, and not her choosing evil again, i.e. perhaps the dwarves are not happy that suddenly Regina is on team Charming.
Completely and utterly agree with you on this. If this is not the case perhaps the writers didn’t do their job and just messed up entirely. I am sure the writers looked in on this, so yeah… Also, on the old rivalries that was mentioned in the promo, I think that it is regarding the people of the town probably not liking that Regina is now part of their princess and princes’family. I mean Charming looked pretty pleased on how everyone worked together but who knows.
Favorites moments:
Everything with Regina!
I loved Regina in this episode.
Her conversation with Rumple/Mr.Gold (all the times), the adoption of Henry, Regina’s interaction with baby Henry and her learning to be a mom. Her revelation to Emma that no, Emma does not know how she feels because Henry is her everything. The fact that everyone has regrets but Regina does not because it ultimately it led her to her son (her little prince.) How she just freakin’ ripped Henry’s heart out of Pan’s chest (did you see his face, the boy was scared shitless.) Her choice even after knowing and worrying that the curse would eventually break, she chose to stay with Henry because he was her baby. Oh! and finally (before knowing what Pan did) when Rumple tells her that she raised Henry well, that joy in her face, the slight smile on his face… I can’t even! For me it seemed that he was proud of her and that made my night! XD
I also loved that people found out that Pan was Rumple’s dad. They finally saw, if anyone was unlucky in the type of parents they had, Rumple got the worst. And he finally received the hug he so desperately wanted and needed.
Least Favorite:
The end, it is now revealed that Henry is Pan that they switched places. I didn’t like it not because of the story plot but more on that the kid that plays Henry will have to play Pan in Henry’s body, Pan who is very evil and Rumple’s dad. I like the kid and think he is a fantastic actor but it’s not every actor that can pull being Rumple’s dad in a kid’s body. Robbie Kay did such a awesome job and set the bar real high. I just hope it doesn’t last long, that maybe he can pull it off and that I get pleasantly surprised.
I think that ultimately, Tink will have to believe in herself, but itâll take others giving her props to build up her self confidence enough.
I wonder if the pixie dust really did glow, or if it was a little nudge from Regina, to help put Tink in a more positive mindset? Bit of a, âthanks for having believed in me,â gift?
I completely agree with this. I think in the end it is probably going to end up being that Tink needs to believe in herself first in order to get her wings back and become a fairy again. I even will go on to say that Blue will say the same thing along the lines of “you just needed to believe in yourself” which I hope doesn’t happen because I think there is no originality in this.
I do think that having people believe in her is key to getting her wings back because in boosts up her confidence which was ultimately shot down when Regina said she was a bad fairy. I believe this to be the reason the pixie dust glowed, maybe she did believe her back when she called her a bad fairy. But I swear if it goes along the lines that Blue saw that she no longer believed in herself and that’s the reason she also added to her down fall, no, just no.
I loved everything, Â the twists the turns Rumple’s tragic story. Robbie Kay ‘s acting all amazing. Â I love this show so much.
Least favorite, Â Rumple ending up in a box and and that we need to wait 2 freaking weeks to see how he gets out of there.
I honestly love that it turned out to be DaddyPan, one of my theories finally came true. It just makes me so sad though, can you imagine how much pain Rumple has gone through. 300 years of serious traumatizing damage, our Lady Belle has really got her job cut out for her… jeez. 300 years of believing that no one could ever love him and starting since his childhood, no wonder he is clinging to poor Baelfire for dear life, and now he is stuck in a box. Rumple has to get a happy ending with Belle, his son and his gigantic mess of a family, he has to or the creators just emotionally tortured a character for no reason.
Oh and yeah Malcolm/Peter Pan is definately the worst character ever, though Milah definitely follows close behind. Even so, though I hate the character I truly love Robbie Kay’s acting, he is a really good actor. When the shadow took Rumple and Peter Pan was watching him go, I truly believed it was a father watching his son be taken away.
