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Personally, I don’t think any one person can ever lay claim to a theory. Too many boards out there with so many theories. Besides, people have theories that they don’t necessarily post until they are ready to do so. For me, it’s exciting to have other comrades that share a same point of view. Go Team Frankie!!!
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Yes I did Cynthia. He also tweeted “Fox News makes me red, white & blue with anger.” We all know what happens when the Hulk gets angry. Interesting enough, Hulk Hogan did a song called American made with lyrics “He’s got the red, white & blue running through his veins.” So, I wouldn’t give up on your Hulk theory quite yet.
Ander’s recent tweet made me think of True Blood with the “Ya’ll”, “ain’t” and “gonna”. That’s why I’m still considering the Big Bad Wolf & Dracula.
Love your posts as well 🙂
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@ cynthiapren. Actually, there are two gentlemen, who post on OUAT/FB that came up with the theory back on August 23rd. I like many of Liz’s points and even referenced her here on this board regarding the pictures of the bouquet and Marvel’s Frankenstein in my earlier post, just as I referenced Michelle Straub (Gypsy here on this board) as she is a regular poster on OUAT/FB and we also have a private group where we run theories off each other. I always give credit where credit is due. I think there are quite of few of us, throughout different sites, that have the same theory. Thus, I would never take credit for being “the first”, I think it’s great that we all have these forums available so we can bounce ideas off of each other. While, we all may be leaning towards Frankie, we all have our different reasoning as to why and that’s what makes it so interesting. For the record, I’ve stated earlier that I thought he was Dr. Frankie based on Jorge Garcia’s announcement that he was to play the Giant, as I thought the Giant could be the monster. However, Jorge hasn’t been on set though he is going through wardrobe changes now. I’ve also still pondering Jekyll/Hyde, Dracula, Phantom of the Opera and The Big Bad Wolf. Cheers!
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Would have to be The Return. Those scenes between Robert and Eion were amazing! A lot of people on OUAT FB site were posting how upset they were with August for leading Gold on. That’s how powerful those scenes were. I can only hope that when Rumples reunites with Bae, they can match or exceed the intensity shown in The Return.
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Good points Cynthia. Perhaps he’s hiding his arm because he got in a scuffle with Red and it’s all torn up, thus the blood on his shirt. Whether it’s Frankie, The Hulk, Jekyll/Hyde, I’ll be happy to see any Marvel Comic Book character show up in SB/FTL. Still going with Frankie though you’re slowly swaying me 🙂
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Could very well be Cynthiapren and I wouldn’t discount your theory. However, I’m not sure how Dr. Whale’s clues fit in with the Hulk, especially the clues in Archie’s files or his lines in the dating video. Having said that, they led us on a wild goose chase with AWB and he ended up being the obvious character Pinocchio.
The green tape however is there as they are digitally enhancing his arm or removing it. Same as using a green/blue screen. So his arm isn’t turning green. If he were transforming into the Hulk, it still wouldn’t explain all the blood on his shirt.
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Just to clarify, does your theory mean that Dr. Whale is both Dr. Frankenstein and the monster he created? After all, Ruby is both Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf. If he is also the monster, it might explain the picture above of Dr. Whale with pale monster-like arms and also why his limbs might be falling off in SB now that magic has come. The picture of Dr. Whale with monster-arms fits the description of Mary Shelly’s novel Frankenstein. At first I thought it was just a bogus picture that David Anders posted to fool us all, but now I think it’s a leaked photo of him getting ready for his FTL back-story as the monster of Dr. Frankenstein.
Not really sure myself other than seeing a connection to Frankenstein be it the doctor or monster or both. However, I like your twist on the theory. At one point I even considered a twist on Jack & the Beanstalk with Dr. Whale being both Dr. Frankenstein and Jack and Jorge Garcia being the Giant and Frankenstein. However, Jorge hasn’t been seen on the set so that cancel’s that train of thought.
While I like the Frankenstein theory, because so many clues point that way, I’m still thinking about Dr. Whale being the main werewolf. The picture with his arms and hands all done up looks very much like the transformation scene from An American Werewolf in London. It looks like his hands are being stretched out into wolf paws with claws in the early stages of transforming. Here’s a pic of that.
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Thanks Marilou 🙂 I’ve had help with this theory via my friend Michelle Straub. Wondered about it after the dating video and Archie’s Files, in The Untold Stories game, just gave it more substance. Huge old horror flick fan so that helped. I’ve been wrong before and still open to other theories but going with this one for the time being.
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Seems to me that they are saying that Dr. Whale will be a beast of some sort. Taking into account that they said his FT identity will be on par with Rumple’s Beast and Ruby’s Wolf, it leads one to believe that Dr. Whale will be a beast/monster of some sort. Peter Pan was a youth not an adult so that rules out that theory. I’m going with Dr. Frankenstein at this stage of the game as there are so many clues leading towards it. K&H said that Marvel Comic book characters could come into play at some point. So, let’s start with the bouquet of flowers Dr. Whale sent to MM. They were wrapped in purple tissue tied with yellow ribbon. A Marvel Comic book shows a purple Frankenstein freeing himself of yellow tape Dr. Frankenstein bound him in. K&H also said, in reference to the Red Handed episode, that Dr. Whale couldn’t be tied down. Well neither could Frankenstein apparently, either in the comic book or in the movies as he always broke free of his straps. James WHALE directed the 1931 movie Frankenstein, starring Boris Karloff as the monster. James Whale was also portrayed in the 1988 movie “Gods & Monsters”. His critics said in doing the movie Frankenstein, we could interpret this as “his feeling that he was a misunderstood outsider, a lonely monster”. Both Dr. Frankenstein & the monster felt persecuted and misunderstood (Archie’s last entry for Dr. Whale). Dr. Frankenstein’s famous quote in the movie “Oh, in the name of God! Now I know what it feels like to be God!” (God complex). In Dr. Whale’s dating clip he talks about listening to the best of Sting. Sting did a remake of James Whale’s Bride of Frankenstein in 1985 called The Bride. In this movie, the monster’s name was Viktor. Note that Dr. Frankenstein’s first name in Mary Shelley’s novel was also Victor (framed as victor of all conflicts). Dr. Whale also talks about sparks flying in his dating video and a single carnation. We all know sparks flew in creating Frankenstein via electricity. Boris Karloff starred in 2 episodes of a ’50’s series called Climax. One episode was titled “The White Carnation”. We already have an old horror movie werewolf (Ruby) so why not Dr. Frankenstein or the monster? There is a connection between the two as they show up together in many films, thus Dr. Whale’s interest in Ruby. A synonym for whale is monster. On Gold’s desk there is a piece of paper with the name Schumacher written on it. A friend of mine, Michelle Straub, noted that Thomas Schumacher is Disney’s Theatrical Productions President and just announced that “Young Frankenstein” is going to be ‘Off – Broadway”. She has also recently discovered that Damon Lindelof – consultant for OUAT and co-creator of LOST with Kitsis and Horowitz (OUAT creators) is the writer/producer of the movie “Prometheus” (released 6/8/12). Mary Shelly’s novel is actually titled “Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus” So all the characteristics in Archie’s diary seem to point in this direction. Now we have photos of something occurring with Dr. Whale’s arm or possibly him having his arm torn off. Does he have his arm in the cooler so he can surgically sew it back on? Lots to ponder. Oh, let’s not forget that his identity reveal will be on the Halloween episode. Werewolves & Frankie! Love it!
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