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TheGoldenKey
ParticipantLOL RumplesGirl. I guess I was a little naughty when I responded about Hook’s Doom and Gloom. 😆
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ParticipantJane Espenson stated it was to be pronounced as tomorrow. This was on a live Barbara Barnett radio blog.
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Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
No I don’t think so. Though you should just because it’s one of the greatest things that ever happened to TV.
Agreed!!! It most certainly was! I would love to see Neverland turn out to be the Island. There are nods to the name Baelfire and the huge frozen Wheel, under the Island that Ben turned to move the Island’s location.
Check out the books The Wheel of Time and one of the weapons called Balefire 😉
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Participant[/quote]Cool. Didn’t see any mention in their blurbs there about how he actually got to NL, but the Neverpedia.com site says, “He flies to Neverland after being “abandoned” by his mother.” So Barrie’s FictionalLondon was a land with magic, and Peter was just a Londoner baby who ran away to the park to hang out with fairies. So I wonder if K&H’s FictionalLondon will have resident fairies too? Or if they’ll borrow any of Barrie’s ideas at all for their own Pan origin story?[/quote]
The thing about Peter being abandoned is that that is how HE sees it. I can’t remember which book, but he does attempt to go back to his mother, peers into the window and sees her with a new baby. He thinks she has forgotten him, no longer loves him and decides to leave once again. The truth is that he has passed on while she has remained with the living and moved on though still never having forgotten her son.
I find it so funny that while he wrote the stories for the Llewelyn, so much of it really pertains to his deceased brother. The narrator in the books tells that that when children die, Peter is known to take them halfway to their new destination so they won’t be frightened. He is caught somewhere between both worlds and we hear him say “To die would be an awfully big adventure”.
Now, in regards to his shadow. I don’t believe it is a wraith. I merely said it looks somewhat wraith like. Certainly seems to be pointing to it being his shadow. Creepy way of showing one’s shadow though. 😮
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Participant@myril wrote:
Already brought it up in the promo topic, but throw it into the discussion here too. What if Wendy’s London is not our historical London but the London of another storybook world, the world of the Darlings, Oliver Twist, Mary Poppins? Of course that nevertheless raises the question of time, but not of time travel, “only” of time being different in different (storybook) worlds. We already have the headache, how the stories came into our world and became our known fairy tales if they happened not hundred of years ago but only a few decades ago, so just a tiny bit adding to support these headaches.
It’s just that I remember to have heard K&H said in some interview, that there was no time travel. Unfortunately don’t remember exactly in which interview they said it, it was in connection with talking about the Jefferson’s hat (if I find it again, will let you know).
I like that train of thought. If turn of the century London was part of the Land Without Colour (which I think consists of all gothic novels) then perhaps its time does work differently than ours. Bae’s six months there could easily equate to one full year here thus turning 113 years to 226 years. Close enough in my mind to 250.
Good call Myril. 😀
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TheGoldenKey
ParticipantRegarding Peter Pan’s shadow. It wasn’t just the Disney version that had the shadow, it’s been in the musical play for years and theatre productions since its concept back in 1904.
In The Little White Bird, Peter Pan was original a spirit caught between two worlds, life and death. He wasn’t able to let go of his life. Same with other lost boys, none ready to let go and go into the light so to speak.
So it’s interesting, that his shadow looks almost wraith like, a hollow being with soulless eyes.
As for a different world from ours, similar to Frankenstein’s, I could certainly see that. I think the Land Without Colour is a gothic world, open to all gothic novels from that period in time. Could very well explain the timeline of Bae having been missing for around 250 years though by our standards yet showing us only 113. Perhaps a Land Without Colour’s time frame of 6 months is more like a like our time.
Lots to ponder. Amazed how one tiny scene can open up so many cans of worms. 😀
PS excuse the spelling errors, half asleepKeeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
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Participant@playarita wrote:
Also it says 6 months later but 6 months after what? It could be landed in Neverland but met Hook, might not have liked Peter’s approach and left. It was then 6 months later we find him in the Darling household and then Peter sets his eyes on Wendy.
You’re absolutely right! We are assuming it’s 6 months after he landed from the vortex from the way the put that promo together. It could very well be 6 months after he left Neverland. 😀
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ParticipantWell, in a synopsis for next weeks episode they said upon Bae’s arrival in Neverland he meets Captain Hook. That sort of tells me they are going to fall back on the 150 years having been lost due to time travel. My reasoning is that if Hook was already there, and Bae was in London for 6 months, then the Crocodile events took place within 6 months of Bae’s disappearance. Funny, I thought when Rumple ran into Killian and Milah, it had been at least a couple of years. Guess not if Hook was already there when Bae arrived 6 months later.
But now my tired mind reminds me that Rumple would have also been only the dark one for 6 months yet he is 300 years old. So, 250 years passes for Rumple yet only 113 years passes for Bae?
Oh, my poor throbbing head! LOL! 😆
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Participant@Phee wrote:
Ah, GoldenKey, this stuff will drive us NealFirePan theorists insane over the coming week, that’s about the only thing I’m sure of right at this moment.
@Keb wrote:
They’ve got some ‘splainin’ to do.
No lie, I almost wrote that exact same thing in a post just before. How freaky. 😆
Hard to give up our theory, huh Phee? Especially when we’ve been holding on and building it for well over a year. 😉
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Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
That explains why he was so hungry.
Spit out my drink LOL! Good one! 😆 😆 😆
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