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  • December 28, 2012 at 12:42 am in reply to: Wow! Huge clue to Neal’s identity on the wall in store??? #166477
    TheGoldenKey
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    Yes, Fairy Dust, those are publicity pictures of Dylan which I posted in the Baelfire thread over a week ago. Here is the thread: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&f=35&p=30782.

    The photo they have used is the one you are showing in the upper left hand corner. All features match up, as do all crimps and creases in his T-Shirt. The way they have cropped it makes it look like a different angle. I will say it again, (as I know you are reading but for some reason not acknowledging) that was a great find you came up with when spotting Dylan’s poster in a shot with Neal in Tallahassee. Good job!

    Hope you had a wonderful & blessed Christmas. All the best in the New Year.

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    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 28, 2012 at 12:32 am in reply to: Baelfire #166474
    TheGoldenKey
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    @myril wrote:

    @TheGoldenKey wrote:

    I’m fairly certain that they made a point of letting us know that Reggie was not only the sorcerer’s apprentice but also Rumple’s Frankenstein monster. A few things stand out about 2×05, The Doctor. Rumple calls Reggie his apprentice when he says “excellent work my apprentice”. Rumple goes even further by stating to Dr. Frankenstein “thanks to your efforts, I’ve made my monster.”

    So we have Reggie as both the Frankenstein monster and the sorcerer’s apprentice.

    Both these stories originated in old German Folklore. Sorcerer’s Apprentice in German is “Der Zauberlehrling”. Disney’s sorcerer’s apprentice came from the German poem “Der Zauberlehrling” by Goethe. It is quite often compared to Frankenstein in that an inanimate object comes to life. Note that David Anders tweeted a clue about his character as being “fully inanimate”.

    *Puts on her academic cap and looks over the rim over her glasses*

    That the novel ‘Frankenstein, The Modern Prometheus’ by Mary Shelley or the poem ‘Der Zauberlehrling’ (The Sorcerer’s Apprentice) by Goethe originate in old German folklore is rather new to me. I know there is the rumour, that Shelley visited castle Frankenstein near Darmstadt and on the way heard stories from locals about Johann Konrad Dippel, a German theologian, alchemist and physician, but that is unproven and more likely the product of some creative minds (can offer you an interesting article in German about the making of the myth of castle Frankenstein as inspiration and place for Shelley’s Frankenstein). More than obvious is the inspiration by the myth of Prometheus. And it is said, that Goethe might have been inspired by a novel of an ancient greek author, Lucian. But I’m always open to learn, so I’m wondering what your source is.

    Goethe’s poem and Shelly’s story show resemblance, seeing that in both someone conjures powers they can’t control, as there are resemblances to the jewish folklore of a golem and to Goethe’s Faust, in which the former student of Doctor Faust, Wagner, creates an homonculus. Would say the resemblance to Goethe’s drama Faust are stronger than to the poem, but that is my opinion. Not sure if the writers thought of both when writing 2×05, but very well one can feel reminded of them watching the episode.

    @TheGoldenKey wrote:

    Another German book, called “Der Zauberlehrling”, by Hanns Heinz Ewers, was the first in a trilogy. It was inspired by Goethe’s poem of the same name. The second book, called Alraune, was based on the Frankenstein myth and was about a female Frankenstein type monster (Rumple’s female monster Reggie).

    I am surprised someone on this board has heard of the works of Hanns Heinz Ewers. It’s hard to get the horror triology you mentioned as books, has become only easier now as ebook. Ewers has a bit of a bad reputation, not just because of his somewhat difficult (political) views, but as well because of his work, his horror novels were quite graphic.

    Hi Myril 🙂 When I was doing some digging for clues and information on Dr. Whale’s identity, I came across this. Have to say how amazed I was with it all. Hadn’t read about Ewers or Goethe up to that point.

    When I say old German folklore, yes, I am referring to Castle Frankenstein which was built in 1200’s. While it hasn’t been proven that Shelley did indeed use this or stories about Dippel for inspiration, it is a known fact that she did take a tour, along the Rhine River, and spent some time in the town of Gernsheim, which is located within miles of the castle. Add to this her passion and inspiration for Goethe (Sorrows of Young Werter and Faust) I’m of the opinion that she knowingly used the castle and Dippel as an inspiration to the novel.

    This is how I also stumbled upon Ewers and his works. The fact that his first book was titled The Sorcerer’s Apprentice (bringing us back to Goethe) and that it was inspired by Goethe’s poem of the same name was surprising. Imagine how even more surprised I was at finding that his 2nd book in the trilogy was based on a female Frankenstein. The connections between all of this and the storyline for the episode The Doctor, showing both Frankenstein and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, were outstanding! Important to note that while Goethe’s poem might have been inspired by Lucian’s works it was written in the early 1700’s and to the best of my knowledge is considered part of German folklore.

    I am very impressed with your knowledge of literature Myril! 😀 Sure wish I had known you back when doing all the digging and research on Dr. Whale. I would have loved to have discussed some of this with you! 😀

    Kitsis and Horowitz never cease to amaze me. We not only get a wonderful storyline and series, but if we are open and pay attention to all their clues, they take us on an educational journey that money just can’t buy! Love them!

    Anyway, hope you had a wonderful Christmas and it was great chatting with you! All the best in the coming New Year and look forward to seeing you more. 😀 Cheers!

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 1:20 pm in reply to: BIG Spoiler Pics / Set Pics #166178
    TheGoldenKey
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    @RumplesGirl wrote:

    @TheGoldenKey wrote:

    Aw…………just want to run my fingers through Robert Carlyle’s hair…………sigh…………. 😀 😀 😀

    THIS.

    😀 Either/Or will do just fine RumplesGirl! 😆 😆

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 1:17 pm in reply to: Baelfire #166177
    TheGoldenKey
    Participant

    @Marilou wrote:

    @TheGoldenKey wrote:

    Loved The Sorcerer’s Apprentice! Jay Baruchel (Dave) is a Canadian actor who starred in a family series with my daughter’s best friend back in the late 1990’s. Happy to see him come up in the ranks.

    As much as I like the movie, I can’t see any tie ins to Neal. Plus, they’ve already shown us in 2×05, The Doctor, that the Sorcerer’s Apprentice was young Reggie.

    you just gotta love Jay Baruchel and popular mechanics for kids. but his more recent canadian stuff is also pretty cool (The trotsky and Good Neighbors) and just because she was an apprentice to a sorcerer does not mean she was THE apprentice.

    Jay was also great in Goon! That movie was quite funny. The series I was referring was My Hometown.

    I’m fairly certain that they made a point of letting us know that Reggie was not only the sorcerer’s apprentice but also Rumple’s Frankenstein monster. A few things stand out about 2×05, The Doctor. Rumple calls Reggie his apprentice when he says “excellent work my apprentice”. Rumple goes even further by stating to Dr. Frankenstein “thanks to your efforts, I’ve made my monster.”

    So we have Reggie as both the Frankenstein monster and the sorcerer’s apprentice.

    Both these stories originated in old German Folklore. Sorcerer’s Apprentice in German is “Der Zauberlehrling”. Disney’s sorcerer’s apprentice came from the German poem “Der Zauberlehrling” by Goethe. It is quite often compared to Frankenstein in that an inanimate object comes to life. Note that David Anders tweeted a clue about his character as being “fully inanimate”.

    Another German book, called “Der Zauberlehrling”, by Hanns Heinz Ewers, was the first in a trilogy. It was inspired by Goethe’s poem of the same name. The second book, called Alraune, was based on the Frankenstein myth and was about a female Frankenstein type monster (Rumple’s female monster Reggie).

    So, in my mind, I think Kitsis and Horowitz made it clear that we were looking at both Frankenstein and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice throughout the episode. They would have studied both writers while in university. Love how they brought both together, in true original literate form, during that episode.

    From my personal view, I can’t see them revisiting it again once they’ve already established it in a character. It’s like having another Beast or Crocodile.

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 2:05 am in reply to: Dream actress to play Snow White’s mother #166146
    TheGoldenKey
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    I’d like to see Katie come on board as Snow’s mom. I think a back story of Snow’s mom and young Cora would be fantastic! Throw in the younger Princes, Leopard and George, and it could get really interesting. 😀

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 2:00 am in reply to: Henry’s family tree #166145
    TheGoldenKey
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    It’s all making me so very dizzy! 😆

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 1:58 am in reply to: Baelfire #166144
    TheGoldenKey
    Participant

    Loved The Sorcerer’s Apprentice! Jay Baruchel (Dave) is a Canadian actor who starred in a family series with my daughter’s best friend back in the late 1990’s. Happy to see him come up in the ranks.

    As much as I like the movie, I can’t see any tie ins to Neal. Plus, they’ve already shown us in 2×05, The Doctor, that the Sorcerer’s Apprentice was young Reggie.

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 1:26 am in reply to: The Dream Catcher #166136
    TheGoldenKey
    Participant

    I don’t think it’s the same. The one that Neal had in his apartment, was the same one from the motel. It only had three lines with feathers attached to it and they hung quite far from the ring. The one we see Emma holding seems to have 4 lines of feathers, they seem closer to the ring, and the ring seems smaller. I could be wrong of course, but it looks different to me.

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 1:09 am in reply to: BIG Spoiler Pics / Set Pics #166135
    TheGoldenKey
    Participant

    Aw…………just want to run my fingers through Robert Carlyle’s hair…………sigh…………. 😀 😀 😀

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    December 24, 2012 at 1:01 am in reply to: Character cast #166134
    TheGoldenKey
    Participant

    I’m looking forward to it. Would love to see what turned her bad. I just hope they add a new twist to things and not that we are seeing a repeat similar to EQ apprenticing under Rumple. I realize that EQ is most likely the child promised to Rumple so it would make sense that Cora made some sort of deal to spare her. However, they’ve got to pump the story up a bit.

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

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