[TheGoldenKey]

@obisgirl wrote:

Hmm, interesting observation. I don’t think Regina would enact a curse where she would have to answer to someone other than her. But I think Storybrooke is kind of like Bridgadoon.

Brigadoon is one of my favourite movies! 😆 That is exactly how I see it as well, a small town asleep for 28 years.

[TheGoldenKey]

PriceofMagic wrote:

Just a little bit of fun since the hiatus is way too long. Who do you think would win in the fight and why?

Belle vs Cinderella

Neal/possibly Bae vs Charming

Snow vs Blue Fairy

Regina vs Cora

Rumple vs Hook

August vs Jefferson

Red vs Mulan

Granny vs Gepetto

Aurora vs Nova

Grumpy vs Whale

Phillip vs Thomas

Torn between Neal/Bae vs Charming. We still haven’t seen Neal/Bae in action. Bae will always be my favourite once character. 😀

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

How did I miss OUAT Hangman??!!!!! 😆

Let’s see, N?

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

@Gypsy wrote:

There is another possible explaination.
Neal’s wanted poster tells me that he was arrested before….it has his stats, so…
We don’t know if Bae (Peter Pan?) was stuck in our world when the curse hit.
What if he wasn’t? 😕
If Neal is Bae (which I think he is,(PP, too) thanks to TheGoldenKey’s theory that she’s had since last February)
What if he was able to travel between worlds even after the curse?
If so, he got stuck in our world in 1991 – arrested for stealing?
1991-14=1977( Neal’s birth date on the wanted poster)
He travels between our world and Neverland, gets caught by authorities in our world in 1991. He’s still 14, so, they go by the year 1977 as a birthdate.
He’s sent to juvie, starts to age, which prevents him from going back to Neverland, and that’s why he’s stuck in our world.
Would explain the 1977 on the wanted poster.
Would make him only 6 yrs older than Emma

As I said, that would mean that all other worlds such as Neverland, Oz, Wonderland, etc., were unaffected and still up and running while doing business as usual. For me, that’s the only way the OUAT Trinity of Bae/Neal/Peter could work.

Keeping my fingers crossed but I’m feeling the same torn between theory feeling that I had with AWB being Bae or Pino, way back when.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

@Phee wrote:

@Naomi wrote:

But more importantly, Peter Pan is one of those characters who can travel between non-magical/magical worlds, so there’s a good explanation for why he wasn’t caught by the curse. My personal theory is that he was in our world when the curse hit – and that prevented him from going back to Neverland. And so “the boy who never grew up”…well, grew up.

That’s part of my theory about how Bae could have also been Peter Pan and still ended up in our world. 😉 Going back to the first part of your comment though, if Barrett does end up being someone who is in our world, but visits SB, then that’s a nice little nod to how Peter can travel between magical and non-magical worlds, so could be a hint to his identity.

Yes, that was also part of my Bae/Peter Pan/Henry’s Father theory I posted back in September. Here’s the link: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1462

I’m having a problem with it now though. As I said in my opening post here, I’m still rooting for my theory, however, I can’t ignore clues we’ve been given about Neal’s age and it’s starting to throw me off the whole Neal/Bae/Peter Pan theory.

On Neal’s FBI wanted poster, it states he was born in 1977. That would make him 35 years old, 7 years older than Emma. Now, that could make Neal Peter Pan, as in the actual books he’s believed to be about 7 years old. Thus, if he got caught here when the curse hit, he’d be seven. So, saying he was born in 1977 would be correct.

However, he can’t be both Bae and Peter Pan as that would mean he was 14 when he got caught here. Thus he would be 42 and not 35, I can’t see them making him 14 years older than Emma and he sure doesn’t look like he’s 14 years older than Emma. Besides, why go to all the trouble to show us the poster that gives us a 7 year age difference.

If he is Bae, he did not arrive before the curse hit nor when the curse hit. It would have had been at least 7 years after the curse.

Now, maybe they’ll show us something that explains the age gap of 7 missing years. I don’t know. Maybe if he was Peter Pan, he regressed in age once he hit Neverland. Rumple does have the ability to do that so who’s to say Bae didn’t meet someone else who did as well. Maybe other worlds were not affected by the curse and it was business as usual other than being able to port to the EF or SB. That might account for Bae coming to the real world as Peter Pan, 7 years after the curse hit and staying. Who knows……..sigh………

As I said, I really want Neal to be Bae and I really want Bae to be Peter Pan. But I’m having my doubts about our OUAT trinity as the moment even though I’ve got a PANtastic theory about it all! 😆

The only thing I know for sure is that he is Henry’s father.

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Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

@AntBee wrote:

@Phee wrote:

This thread should probably be in a spoiler section. 😉 Hopefully anyone who sees the title and doesn’t read spoilers won’t click on it.

lol, yes, it’s very spoilery. 😆

Now I don’t know whether to include actual spoiler bars or just follow the flow since the rest of the thread isn’t in spoiler bars. .

Ooooopsies! I’m going to blame it on the wine. Hopefully admin will see and move the thread over. LOL AntBee! A new word “spoilery”! 😆

Now I don’t know if I should go back and edit using the spoiler bars or just follow suite from you all following the flow! 😀

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

@fairy dust wrote:

A couple of things have been kicking around in my head. The episode description did not say that anyone was murdered…just that Regina was accused of murdering a beloved fairy tale character. That doesn’t mean that someone wasn’t really murdered but it does leave a lot of options open. Also…why the description of the person supposedly murdered as a fairy tale person…rather than someone in the town of Storybrook? I’m not sure I have any answers…lots of good possibilities have been listed but I’ve thought of a few more.

1. Hook kidnaps Archie and holds him captive in the clock tower (remember when Jiminy Cricket was tied up in the cukoo clock). The motive…trying to find out what Archie knows about Rumple’s weakness. This possibility came to me when I was looking again at Archie’s journal in the Once game. Archie writes that it is important to destroy notes of earlier session and how it is better to have no record of Rumple’s weakness. He also writes about going into hiding or a protection program if Rumple comes for counseling. I guess he could also be in hiding (clock tower?).

2. Archie is not murdered or kidnapped but rather he is missing because he is trying to work out his own guilt issues regarding Gepetto’s parents. In We are Both he was one of the ones who wanted to cross the line to erase his memories and in his journal he writes that he was happier before the curse was broken…and that the existence of Marco/Gepetto and the debt he can never fill tie him forever to the cricket he was. Another possibility is Archie is once again considering crossing the line.

…and I really like the suggestion of Cora impersonating Archie. Talk about a fast track to a lot of information. Possibly Archie is captive in the clock tower and Cora is impersonating. That would be an interesting story line.

Again great thoughts on the subject. Didn’t think about the his notebook but it makes sense there still may be tons of clues in there.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

@Josephine wrote:

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

I know I keep going on about this but if Kitsis and Horowitz have stated that Blue is good and only wishes to to good then I’ve got to believe what they’ve said. They weren’t ambiguous about it. They made it perfectly clear she is good and only does good.

What bugs me about the Blue Fiary, no matter what Eddie and Adam claim, is that she did nothing to stop the Ogre Wars and the kids fighting on the front lines. If she’s the “Original Power” and her name was whispered about on the battlefield, why didn’t she show up to help them? All Bae had to do was say her name and *poof* she floats down to the ground with a solution to his problem. Rumple, on the other hand, although he is evil, did stop the Ogres. We know from Morraine that the soldiers looked at him as a hero. Maybe the Blue Fairy is all good, but there are some inconsistancies about her. And I still take it as her lying to the Charmings about the tree. She withheld information and twisted it. That’s dishonest. But this isn’t the Blue Fairy thread…

As for “The Cricket Game”, I’m of the opinion that Cora is going to be impersonating Archie. I don’t think she’s going to kill him, but I think she could do a lot of damage as Archie. Actually, he seems like the key guy to impersonate if she wants the make the most mischief. Regina we know has talked to him. Gold has confided in him in the past. He’s the town psychiatrist and the one most people probably trust. He’s in the inner circle of the Charmings. That’s just a perfect storm for causing chaos.

Well, I think Blue has limits to how much she can control and how much power she wields. As for Cora impersonating Archie, that would make it pretty interesting. Great theory!

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

@obisgirl wrote:

@PriceofMagic wrote:

I don’t think he is Peter Pan. Even though Hook is in Storybrooke, there is no need for Peter Pan to appear this season.

Also, besides being the beast from Beauty and the Beast, Rumpel is Peter Pan because like Peter Pan, Rumpel never grows old. Peter and Rumpel are immortal.

Gypsy and I have talked about that. I at first thought the same as you. However, Peter Pan was able to travel to the real world. Very important part of Neverland and the story itself. Rumple couldn’t. Thus, it eliminates that theory. Beside, Peter Pan was K&H’s favourite story. Doubt they’d let it go that easily.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

@Midnight Dreary wrote:

I think he may be the Wizard of Oz.

I thought so too at first, however, his age is tripping me up. If Professor Marvel was caught in the curse, wouldn’t they know him in town? If he weren’t caught in it, it would be because he was outside of Oz, in the real world. That means he would have aged 28 years since first going to Oz as a grown man. That would make him no younger than his early 50’s. So I don’t see how that can work, unless………………..

We still don’t know what happened to the other worlds once the curse hit. Are those worlds still intact or destroyed like the Enchanted Forest? If intact, where all the story book characters frozen in time, for the last 28 years, there or were they brought to SB?

IF Oz remained intact and IF the characters spent their 28 years frozen there, then yes, he certainly could be the Wizard. Maybe he’s journeyed back to the real world and SB to figure out what the heck happened the last 28 years.

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