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To be honest, we haven’t really seen a lot of what Belle thinks of Lacey, or rather, what she thinks of her time as Lacey. Her memories were restored (and melded with Lacey’s) moments before Rumple went off to save Henry and presumably, die. For my personal interests, this is such a shame. I kept hoping beyond hope that there would be even a single episode’s worth of reconciliation before season two ended so that the show could really explore some of the more messy parts of the relationship. I mean, it’s hard to be angry and demand someone sort themselves out when they are literally putting themselves in harm’s way to save a loved one within a day of you realizing they’d done something wrong in the first place. It’s a ricochet of emotions that’s difficult to deal with in real life, let alone a few scenes of a 44 minute TV show.
I’m not one for spoilers, so I haven’t really looked at what direction they’re taking for the second half of season 3, but I for one would love to see Belle and Baelfire talk about Rumplestiltskin (perhaps with the help of some handy, dandy, Carlyle laden flashbacks). If Belle is indeed guilty of looking at Rumple with /ahem rose colored glasses, then maybe Baelfire can offer some perspective, and she could do the same for him. I can see Neal starting a”I can’t believe he did that,” conversation (regarding his sacrifice), and Belle responding with a “I can”- because she is one of the few people (perhaps only person?) who knows just how much Rumple was capable of caring, while Bae knows just how much difficulty he had showing it.
[adrotate group="5"]"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
I get that that’s what happened, but I guess I just want to know why. There’s no logical reason for something that predates the curse to be affected by the curse or its undoing. Yes, here I am trying to apply logic to magic. Haha.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
Thanks, everyone. I’ll keep you posted if I make any more fairy tale/OUAT inspired stuff.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
I think it can be very easy to misunderstand or even dislike relationships that are unlike ones you yourself have had, or had encounters with in other media. Of course, there is a reason different pairings appeal to different people. In any fandom with a varied enough cast you’re going to find people who love one pairing, and can’t stand another. A lot of the time this has nothing to do with the characters individually, you just find that the on screen chemistry isn’t to your liking. (The “Ketchup and Ice Cream” phenomenon, if you will.) Some people love couples that are mostly warm and fuzzy fluff, others prefer torturous, drawn out affairs. It has a lot to do with what relationships you find ideal (perhaps like one you yourself might want) and which ones you find entertaining (ones very unlike something you would ever pursue, but find fascinating to watch.) If someone is looking for a pairing with a blatantly equal give-and-take, I can see why Rumbelle might leave them wanting. It’s not just as simple as, “they make each other better people”.
I think it’s a valid criticism to say that in the Rumple/Belle relationship, he gains the benefit of becoming a better person (however slowly this progress may come), while Belle seems to be, let’s face it- pretty darn near perfect. There just isn’t a ton of room for her to grow as far as being a kinder, more loving person because those are traits that she intrinsically has. But what Rumple does is *recognize* these remarkable things about her. Much of Belle’s backstory has had to do with other people underestimating her abilities, as she herself came to learn how to use her strengths effectively. Rumple only doubted her ability to love once (and it had more to do with his own insecurities than Belle’s failings, and to be fair Regina definitely meddled) but it cost him dearly, and he never repeated that mistake.
So what does Belle get out of this relationship? Someone who knows just how amazing and brilliant she is, someone who doesn’t let her forget for a moment that she is capable of great things. And just for the record, this *someone* is a person who has made a lifetime out of recognizing potential, as well as finding hidden weaknesses. For someone like that to hold you in high esteem, for them to battle with themselves just to do so- is quite the gift.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
BTW if he was able to summon the shadow so easily in storybrooke, why couldn’t he do it in Neverland when Bae asked him for the dagger? just summon the shadow and give him the dagger, no? or was he scared still that Pan will somehow take it from Bae?
For that matter, how did he do any summoning at all? With his magic dampened, how was he able to call out to his shadow? Err… actually, come to think of it, don’t people usually die if they’re separated from their shadow? What is it about the separation that kills them? Is it the shock? Pain? Or does some harm have to come to the shadow itself before it affects the body?
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
3×11 (Finally got caught up!)
I didn’t want to make a whole thread in case this has been addressed in another thread, but- why did Baelfire go back to EF with everyone else? If what Regina did at the end of the episode was to “unmake” the curse, that had nothing to do with why Bae was there at all. He arrived via the magic bean, right? On top of that, it’s not as though he has anyone he’s super close to waiting for him back there (to his knowledge, anyway). In the non-magical world, he at least has friends with the Darlings, or could perhaps try to have a fresh, non-magical start with Emma. (Presumably, she still remembers him as the father of her child.) Was this just a noble sacrifice? Or will Storybrooke just vanish, leaving Bae standing in an empty field on his own? XD
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
Thanks! It took me a while to get the hang of adhering the domes in a clean way, but I’m happy with the results. I’ve been making a lot of jewelry in this vein (with miniature cakes, mushrooms, or dried flowers) but I wanted to make these for myself.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
It’s silly of me, but I keep thinking “undoing” is such a vague term it could mean anything. At this point, I’m wondering if Henry won’t “undo” the lock on Pandora’s box. XD
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
You’re absolutely right slurpeez. I think that this episode set up Hook’s personal crisis. Just like Pan started toying with Emma and baiting her in regards to being an orphan, he has begun to wreak havoc on Hook’s self image. This story sets up the idea that even in becoming a pirate, Hook has a moral code and a sense of honor (even if it is honor among thieves).
I think Pan’s offer of letting Hook… swan off, was practically a bluff. I mean, Pan knows there’s no way Emma would leave without Henry, and killing Charming wasn’t really beneficial to Hook at all. I think Pan made the offer just to set Hook up to “succeed”, so that he would be at the top of the world just so Pan could knock him down with the knowledge of Bael’s survival. This is yet another seed of distrust he’s planting in the group.
But back to the original topic, I think that Bael/Hook’s relationship will definitely come in to play, as will the history between Hook and Mila. Something along the lines of, “I once separated a woman from her family, and it nearly destroyed her, I’ll not do the same again.” This could just as easily couple with the sentiment of not wanting to do to Bael what he did to his father. There’s also something to be said for the fallout of having done so- and what it did to Hook by setting him on a path of revenge.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
I agree that this is going to drawn out for maximum drama, but if I was writing I would create a situation that satisfied both sides. Hook will decide to tell- after struggling with it for a long time (thereby satisfying the need to have him be, at his core, an honorable man) but Emma will not find out from him. Before he is able to reach her (in my theoretical scenario they are split up while he comes to this decision) and talk to her, she’ll find out on her own, possibly from Pan or someone else. This still allows her to be angry and keep more internal drama running.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
