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What if it was Regina that balked? If she’s growing to realize the power she can conceivably have as queen, being presented with someone like Robin Hood (a humble thief) as a match might make her hesitate. She wants love, but she had it before and it was taken away like that. *snaps fingers* Now, power … you can do more with power. And it’s harder to take it away.
If something happens to make her realize her potential power as queen in this episode as well, I could see her choosing that rather than abandoning it for love … love that, as Regina knows, can be a very fragile thing. Maybe this is a step toward the power/love struggle we see in Regina to this day.
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasAh, pity. I’d completely missed that, RumplesGirl. 🙂 It’s tough to keep up with all the spoilers!
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasHad a thought after reading another thread in which the lack of Tinkerbell spoilers was noted.
Could Tink … err … not be around very long?
And what if Pan’s obsession with belief has something to do with Tink being lost? As in the old “Clap your hands if you believe in fairies!” But there was no belief when it was needed and she died/was lost/faded, etc. Perhaps Hook was involved somehow? (Purposefully or not, but that’s why Pan hates him.)
Am I correct that we’ve only seen a likely flashback photo of Tink? (The one with flashback younger Regina?)
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasOooooh. What is Pan’s obsession with belief has something to do with Tink being lost? As in the old “Clap your hands if you believe in fairies!” But there was no belief when needed and she died/was lost/faded, etc.
Am I correct that we’ve only seen likely flashback photos of Tink?
(Literally revived my account to add this. 🙂 Glad to be back with follow Once fans.)
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasBriefly emerging from lurkerdom.
I still have an odd little suspicion that Tamara’s grandmother is Tiana. The only Disney “princess” to be grounded in a “real-life” place and time. Tiana certainly had no reason to love magic (it turned her into a frog!). What if she and Naveen were somehow from FTL, but wound up here in New Orleans and raised a family? And somehow Tamara had reason to believe the magic in her grandmother’s past contributed to her death or something? (Or maybe little Tamara was freaked out by tales of life as a frog! 😆 Kidding. Mostly.)
Huh. You know who the bad guy was in that movie? Dr. Facilier. The Shadow Man. 😀
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasI posted this in another thread not long after the episode Sunday, but got not an once of reaction to it. See what you think:
“First, I freely admit I did not see the entire episode. (Restless little boys who should have been in bed … ). But I had a thought about this.
“I know a few people thought Tamara originally might be Tiana from the Princess and the Frog. What if her GRANDMOTHER was? I believe Tiana is/was the only Disney princess anchored in a concrete “real world” time and place … 1920s New Orleans … what if she somehow came over from FTL and built her life there, and her granddaughter (great-granddaughter would probably be closer) used to hear all these stories …
“Just an off the wall idea.”
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan Thomas@EvilQueen wrote:
– Is Tamara’s grandmother important? I didn’t recognise her from anywhere but perhaps she could be the fairy that Rumple killed? But then, how come she had a photo of her? It seemed quite important and personal, I do hope it’s not just for the convenience of this episode only…
First, I freely admit I did not see the entire episode. (Restless little boys who should have been in bed … 🙄 ). But I had a thought about this.
I know a few people thought Tamara originally might be Tiana from the Princess and the Frog. What if her GRANDMOTHER was? I believe Tiana is/was the only Disney princess anchored in a concrete “real world” time and place … 1920s New Orleans … what if she somehow came over from FTL and built her life there, and her granddaughter (great-granddaughter would probably be closer) used to hear all these stories …
Just an off the wall idea. 😉
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasAs someone who’s read a lot of Arthurian legend, I feel obligated to mention that there are many different versions and Morgan le Fay isn’t always a really bad guy. 🙂 Or girl.
She and Arthur have a sister, Morgause. Now, there’s a piece of work. In fact, Disney’s “The Sword in the Stone” is based on T.H. White’s “The Sword in the Stone,” the first part of “The Once and Future King,” and in there, Morgause is the one who largely brings about Arthur’s downfall (via Mordred).
Morgan doesn’t come across well in the T.H. White version, if I remember correctly. (It’s been a while. I do think she’s referred to as “a queen of fairies.” 😀 ) But Morgause is truly unpleasant.
And you know what, I think she spends a lot of time trying find/cast magic. I must find my copy of the book …
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasI think the text of the “game-changer” quote was this:
“Rumpel and Bae’s relationship may be in a sad state of affairs right now, but ‘there’s a little gamechanger’ in Episode 22”
That, to me, suggests that it’s a positive change. I’m still betting that Henry somehow gets sucked through a portal to Neverland and Rumple, flashing back to when he lost Bae, choses to try to grab him and gets taken too. 😀 Then the others have to try to get them back.
I like the image, anyway.
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasHappyEndings, I think that Rumple is still “one of their own.” He’s certainly, as we realize now, one of the family. 🙂 And what’s more tragic than the death of someone whom we have reason to believe may seriously be able to be redeemed?
I think Cora’s beyond redemption at this point. But maybe that’s just me.
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan Thomas
