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mhm…. maybe it is not just a matter of social class?
I mean, it is obvious that Charming is a prince. Actually a king, after married Snow, who “inherited” – “” are because actually she recovered it from the Evil Queen- her father’s kingdom. In king George’s kingdom he was a fugitive, yes, but no matter which his origins were, he became a prince/King.So reveal that he is the son of a sepherd is kind of a nosense… except if there is something about that origins that we don’t know. Who was his father, for instance. Or any other acussation George could try to blame him for.
However I think it would be difficult for George to speak about Charming origins without referring the circunstances that lead him to pretend being a prince. And that is a truth that shows George as the ‘evil factor’ in the scene.I don’t know, but George’s threat is completely out of place. At least to my eyes.
[adrotate group="5"]oh, that would be my happy ending *_*
Speaking about that -completely offtopic- magic has been brought just to StoryBrooke, or to the entire world?
I guess to the entire world, since Rumplestiltskin planed go out of Storybrooke to find Baelfire, but I’m not sure about it; the purple smoke scenes were onlu in SB….I want him to keep magic because it is not just a curse.
As I understand it, magic is also something he likes, something he loves. He started in it because of the curse, but… it is like someone finding a field of study to which s/he is going to feel engaged for his-her entire live by mistake or because s/he couldn’t afford the payment of the studies s/he originally wanted (Something that I experienced myself).
Maybe it is just that I’m influenced by the way in which the wizards I loved in my childhood were truly engaged with magic -I’m thinking about Raistlin Majere, for instance, or even the Merlin of the legend-, but I think that it is not fair to force someone to choose between the person he loves and his passion-work-whatever you want.
So, I would prefer a ‘happy ending’ with a non cursed Rumplestiltskin -which means he gets his former ‘good-guy’ personality, and his previous ideas of use magic for the shake of people- keeping magic. Not as strong-powerful magic, but magic.
But I understand that this is not the way the show treats magic, so, I won’t cry so much when he: a.- leaves magic b.- dies c.- something-else-that-implies-take.that-sort-of-decition. đOh, sure! I was a bit messing in my writing, sorry.
What I meant was that if the dagger doesn’t work, then Mr. Gold can be killed as any of us. And that if he can’t, then that means that the dagger works. Because I can not figure out how could be possible that the dagger doesn’t work, but his owner remains immortal :S :S
-I’m open to any idea đ –@Ziera117 wrote:
thats a good idea!! Him regaining control over himself and breaking his curse with his own true love for Belle. I would like to see that. đ
I know it fits the idea of true love in the show, but, you know, I don’t want Rumplestiltskin leaving magic T_T So, as far as he retains it, its oke with me đ
About Hook knowing the dagger useless in our world… then the question is: is Mr. Gold a normal man? I mean, he has his magic and so on, but… can he be killed as everyone else?
Because if so, take revenge from him is as easy as if he were another man. Ok, he has magic, power… but can be killed with a sword, a gun, a bad hit on the head… The only true challenge would be kill him before being killed by his magic.
@Ziera117 wrote:
On a even more different note.. OOOH. I JUST HAD A REALLY SCARY THOUGHT.
This could be terrible…but what if…
What if now that there is magic in storybrooke, say the dagger does work. Say hook comes back and gets a hold of it, and finds belle out or whatever. What if he orders Rumpel to kill her? Rip out her heart?
:O
That would be so sad…but pretty awesome.
O_O As a fan, and being Rumplestiltskin one of my favorite characters, it sounds horrible. Poor guy, I would like to kill Hook myself after that. It goes far beyond revenge, It is just… cruelty,
But from an impartial, cold, and inhuman literature perspective, it would be just… brilliant!!! đź
@Faux Pax wrote:
Another thing to consider in the epic debate of Neal=Bae yes/no, is that Neal has a bad case of sticky fingers, something that didn’t seem a problume for Bae.
But think about this for a moment.
I only have a couple semesters of Psychology under my belt so correct me if i’m wrong, but isn’t it possible that Bae could have developed that as a way to feel closer to his dad? I mean the last night Rumple was really Rumple was the night he did the only non-cowardly thing in his life. He and Bae broke into the Duke’s castle. So maybe it’s like he’s trying (even if it’s just subconsciously) to remember the last moment he really had his papa.
What do you guys think?
That is an interesting point! But maybe the fire was more shocking to Bae than the stolen dagger, since he waited for his father in the forest?? I’m not a psychologist, but even knowing what was what his father was doing in the castle, he didn’t see the stolen item until his father was already the Dark One.
Any way, I like your approach ^^Ps: I’ve just remember it, but Baelfire told his father, after meet him in the forest, the he “had a bad feeling”. It is just a quick flash in my mind, but… is there other type of magic in FairytaleLand? Sort of, you know, farseers, or something similar? I’m not saying that Bae could have magic himself, just that the detail makes me think about how many forms of magic existed there.
Ok, I was thinking on âprotectedâ as âhaving help and people who care for herâ not a 24h companionship. My fault. She could be easy to find, and easy to âtakeâ âso to speak- but with that sort of friends, Iâm not so sure about being completely vulnerable. Unless a quick attack, like, âhey, Are you Belle? Yes? Nice to meet you, now, let me kill youâ.
I donât think that killing Rumplestiltskin in our world makes the killer the Dark One. Even having magic. In any case, maybe avoiding the curse could be a good starting point for a pirate to look for an alliance with Cora. Just guessing.
About Belle knowing that her beloved killed his first wife. Well, for sure I think she would confront him about that, but as I said, I think Belle is not a naĂŻve-all-white character. Come on, she knows who she is in love with. At least, she should. One thing is say: âok, stop acting like that if you want me to be with youâ, but no one can change his past. So she would probably be scared, she would probably need some time to assimilate it, but that doesnât mean she would take part for Hook.
But who knows?I just hope Belle being strong enough not to be confused by the situation and Hook being twisted enough not to act like a quick killer.
OMG!
I just finnished writing in other post… “give me a soldier…and I would say he is Baelfire” and read this.
I’m going to mantain my promise, whatever it could be the final result: Here my vote to Baelfire!
Iâve never said Bae would be a normal balanced man, but neither the way Neal is.
Neal is broken, but he is also innocent, he doesnât seem to be a person who has been in contact with such traumatic events, he is broken in the sense of being lost, with a huge lack of affection and looking for hope, while Bae would be darker, distrustful⊠a person who probably tries to forget about his pass without success, to become totally different of what his father wanted for him.
Give me a depressed soldier who always risks his life in battlefield, a wrestler, or something similar, and I would vote for him being Baelfire. (by the way, a 14-15 years old guy who can work with wool and wood is more skilled to get a proper job in this world than lots of my High School mates who left studies at that same age)
Magickingdom, have things gotten hostile within the fandom?? I didnât notice, from my part, it was not my intention. đ„ Just sharing ideas, personally I donât get angry because of different opinions⊠and hope no one does, it is just for fun!!!
Mhm… I think he is going after the dagger. But if I were Hook, I would have a plan B, just in case it doesn’t work. What sort of magic and-or weapons are in Neverland? I can’t remember an specific Neverland thing that could help to kill Rumplestiltskin… What is sure is that he wants Rumplestiltskin dead, and that whatever his plan could be, it is related to kill him.
About Belle… Well, she is still protected by Rumplestiltskin -he acts like an obsessive and overprotective man regarding people he loves, so- but, she has also a werewoman as friend, so she is not an easy victim.
However, she is also a really tempting “prologue to revenge” for Hook… I believe he would try to seduct her.At the end that is what can hurt more: by killing her, just make Rumplestiltskin get angry and project his fury towards Hook, which can result in a clever last time victory for the wizard.
By telling Belle what her “true love” did, he doesn’t achieve anything: Belle is not so naive as to think Rumplestiltskin is a good guy, she knew his reputation even before know him. It could be a bit shocked, but at the end the information wouldn’t change anything between them.
BUT, by seducting her, Rumplestiltskin is double broken: he wouldn’t kill Belle, and probably he wouldn’t even try to kill Hook not to hurt her. -yes, I think Rumplestiltskin in love is weaker in this respect than he was before. I can’t imagine him killing Belle or hurting someone she loves, whoever s/he could be-
That gives Hook chance to fulfill his revenge, and in the time, he can enjoy watching how his enemy suffering the same humiliation being the Dark One that he suffered being the village coward.No matter Hook’s intentions, I expect Belle’s character stronger than that.
