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[TheWatcher]

If this is true I don’t think I will hate Emma. Do you think the person meant that if you like SQ or Regina you will hate Emma?

I guess she means that emma will have a scene or dialog in the car with Regina that will make us dislike her. I would not be surprised.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

He helped the Charming’s and Grumpy to save Regina and Robin from the fury

  And in the very next episode he convinces a man to commit suicide to prevent him from revealing that Arthurs was duping them. Remember?

 

That didn’t sound like a villain’s work.

Please refer to all I stated about two comments ago. He did plenty of villain work.

I guess this is something we will see differently. I don’t quite see how his character was meant to be portrayed positively. But hey *shrugs*. I lot of the episodes were the heroes fighting against Arthur, afterall.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

Still he did move on and vowed to save the underworld and give hope to all when he understood the prophecy now. Remember?

I….don’t think that means everything he did in his past no longer existed. He still did all those evil things of his own choice. Helping Hook to find a book because he feared the consequences of those evil actions (not out of genuine remorse and regret mind you) doesn’t suddenly make him a hero. If Arthur had expressed some kind of feeling that he knew what he did was wrong and was on this journey to fix it all, i’d buy it. But he just doesn’t want to go to Hell. It’s not sincere. Not to me.

Now if I were the writers, it wouldn’t be that hard to have Arthur return as a villain. Arthur desperately wants a kingdom. When Camelot failed, it was SB. When that failed he is set on the underworld. He could very well be down there enslaving everyone somehow. I am saying its a possibility. I personally didn’t buy that the portal was opening for him or that he was committed to “Fixing” the broken kingdom of the underworld. It just doesn’t make sense to me personally. Just seems Arthurs really wants to be a king.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

Except Arthur doesn’t count much as a villain. He was just a misguided man, missed understood Merlin’s prophecy. And after all, he seems to be against real villains and evil. Especially dark ones.

He put a spell on a woman to force her to stay with him. He got a man to commit suicide. He lied to our main characters constantly. Wanted to take over storybrooke (the same thing our most recent villain tried to do) and  tried to kill several of our heroes…

At what point does a person go from misguided to evil? Even if Arthur misunderstood Merlin’s prophecy, that doesn’t give him license to do all that he did. He was evil. Power hungry and thirsting for a kingdom of his own to rule and willing to do anything to gain it.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Arthur, Blind Witch, and Cruella find some way back to the over-world and be the returning villains. I might be interested in that.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

Yeah, idk if its fake but it all sounds pretty realistic. But I agree, someone watching the spoilers closely could have just thrown this together. I put nothing past this crazy fandom.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

Don’t forget the ones who like Disney trash.

Those too. I won’t lie. Seeing more live action Disney characters is also a reason I’m still watching. I really wanna see Aladdin, Jasmine, Tiana, and Facilier. But seeing as OUAT isn’t really re-inventing the characters like they used to, and instead are just making carbon copies (Elsa, Merida) even that might turn out to be just a bore too.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

How sad. But this is what happens when the quality of a show declines. Fans are getting sick of it. They aren’t the first and I doubt they will be the last. I think OUAT is really on its last legs, the only people supporting it are the ones who are too invested to leave it (I think a lot of us here), hardcore CS-shippers who are fine with the storyline, and average viewers who don’t take it as seriously as the former.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

Holy moly……what is that? Whats happening? Is that a portal? I am ready for this episode..

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

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